EvilCamaro1992

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Im cutting my front springs and was just wondering, do I cut the top or the bottom of the spring? Also, any advice on how to reset the springs in the pockets on reinstall. Thanks.

camaroinoh

No suggested but top and just reindex them like stock

lonesomeloser

Cut the bottom. When installing, you may have to compress the spring depending on what springs are used, and how much you cut off. Make sure it is indexed by having the bottom of the spring in between the 2 drain holes in the a-arm.

EvilCamaro1992

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So cut top or bottom?

camaroinoh

Sry fronts bottom/ backs top

RS Chris

Something to keep in mind is your spring rate will increase some, depending on how much you cut.

GICATA

I've been reading on the same subject....there are lots of posts about cutting coils.
Seems it's best to cut a 1/4 coil at a time with a cut off wheel, or even remove only the insulators to lower the car. Take some time to do a search, "cutting coils" works, and do it right.

BlackenedBird

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1/2 coil front, 3/4 coil rear on WS6 springs worked great for my DD years ago. Kinda wished they had been a BIT lower, but it wasn't worth the work (to me) needed to pull them again just to cut another 1/8 to 1/4 coil off, for just a bit lower stance.

karl's-92'-z28

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I would invest in some dropped coils, incase you wanna lift your car back to stock, you will still have stock coils to use.

Shadow Z

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Just buy some Eibachs or what not, cheapo. Cutting springs is incredibly ghetto.

lonesomeloser

Cheapo, frugal, budget-minded, etc. There's nothing wrong wth cutting springs. What makes it ghetto? I think it's ingenious.

BlackenedBird

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Not only has cutting springs existed LONG before the aftermarket started making specific lowering springs, but it still continues professionally today. Or does Chip Foose a "ghetto" car builder? He does it on builds.

Shadow Z

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When I want more power out of my Vortech V1, I'll have a custom 2.0" pulley milled and over-spin it to 70,000+ RPM and destroy the imepeller, bearings, possibly the seals too from the heat it'd generate! It'd save me money over upgrading to a V7-YSI! Yeeeee!

It's just incredibly ghetto to cut springs.. You get nothing out of looks out of it. When you cut a coil off, you increase the spring rate, and it will typically make the ride hard and bumpy as heck. Plus, if someone is cheap enough to cut springs, I highly doubt they'll upgrade the shocks or struts..

Do it right or don't bother.. This isn't the 1950's anymore. Parts are available, and they're relatively cheap.

Within 30 seconds of reading that, I pulled up two Chip Foose built cars that were running Eibach springs. Talk about getting specific. Whatever floats your boat though. Won't catch me cutting springs. I'm happy with the 1.5-1.75" drop that Eibachs give me on both cars. Can't go any lower than that around here, and I don't want a crappy ride.

BlackenedBird

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Ooooo....2 cars. That covers all his builds, huh?

I never said EVERY car he builds has cuts springs. 2 cars out of many? Nice example.....

Apparently you have never watched Overhaulin' where he has cut the springs.

Cut springs do NOT automatically = a crappy ride. Narrow-minded thinking like that prevents progress in the automotive world.

I've had cut springs on daily drivers as well as on autocross cars. Handling is essential for autocross unlike point-and-shoot drag racing.

Shadow Z

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Speaking of narrow-minded thinking, read my post. I brought up two within just 30 SECONDS of reading your post. So, it really is a nice example.

Yeah, you're right. I don't get my information from television shows. Nice example.....

And yeah, because hacking away at stock springs is some REAL progress! Sure thing buddy! What a jokester. Go ahead and keep cutting your springs.. Real backyard special.. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Leave it to a cheap newbie to attempt a two-bit insult towards me because you're too broke to buy springs. GTFO with an attitude like that.

BlackenedBird

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You tried to insult me without knowing squat about me or my car = You failed!

Just because I did cut springs in the mid 90s before TGO even existed, means nothing about my $450 Ground Control Weight Jack w/Eibach springs setup now. I even have extra sets of springs AND extra adjusters. And you have what? Aftermarket 1-setting lowering springs? You sure were quick to get into an internet pissing match, which really means nothing in the end. New to a website means nothing about new to cars or even 3rd gens.

I don't judge you when I know nothing about you & you shouldn't judge anyone either.

I didn't want to get into this pissing match, but telling new people they have really have no good choice but to buy aftermarket lowering springs & they can't just deal with what they have now & upgrade later, is a detriment to our hobby.


EVERYONE should start with what they have in their budget (not everyone can afford higher dollar stuff) and upgrade it later when you can afford to. I'm not gonna sit here on my couch & tell someone halfway across the USA what they will do with their $. I will just tell them what options are available & let them decide what fits THEIR budget, not mine. And I'm not gonna sirt here & insult somebody for doing what fits THEIR budget. At least they are doing something.

Cutting springs is free. Lowering springs are a one-height option. Weight Jacks cost more, but give you adjustability for no extra $ to spend later.

Shadow Z

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Yeah, you're totally right. I'm just a grumpy guy due to a lack of sleep, and we should all cut our springs since it's free. Failed? Come on, we're not 15 anymore, I'm sure. What next, gonna whip out an old 'u failz'? Lulz fail.

Pissing match, no. Just common sense. You can only get so far with free mods. Another member mentioned drop spindles, now that's real common sense. An affordable option to drop the car, yet keep the stock springs uncut if you decide to go back. Smarter move. What are decent lowering springs for a third gen? Like $250 tops? I'm not Mr. rich guy, but if someone can't afford that, come on.....

Of course they're free to do what they want with their car and their money. However just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I've had a couple people get on my case since I took a relatively low mileage, mostly original high optioned IROC, and gutted it for free weight reduction. Although the expensive end of it will come. VFN doors, hood, PA Racing K member, etc.

No pissing match here though.

BlackenedBird

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Huh? I'm not 15 & I think only 15 yr olds understand that 'net speak. I am a college-educated 40 yr old man that speak (an types) proper English.

I never said that he, or anyone SHOULD cut their springs & not spend the $ on aftermarket stuff. But it is a reasonable (when done correctly, it is a perfectly safe money saving option to do) for those to use as a stepping stone that cannot afford the aftermarket stuff.

$250 is a bargain to me, for what I did.
http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=20

I'd like to add drop spindles to mine later, but it isn't in my budget at this point. Other things need my attention right now. But the weight jacks were an option for later that weren't a waste of money & could be reused later, unlike lowering springs that when combined with 1.5"/2" drop springs typically means it is TOO low & the springs need to be replaced. With just a turn of a wrench, my weight jacks will bring the car back up to a useable height if I put drop spindles on later. And for just $55 I can change the spring rate (softer or stiffer) without affecting the ride height any.

I don't like the idea of taking a low-mileage 3rd gen & cutting it up like that either. But it is your car, not mine and I am not going to give ANYONE grief over modding their car to suit them. You can do whatever you want to with it. At least your interested in the 3rd gens. Although you do have a Mustang so............ ;P

Shadow Z

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Yeah, Chevy came first for me but I also love Slowstangs. Surprised I didn't get banned for it. The whole time I wanted to build a 383 for the IROC and have it repainted, I was saving for the Mustang. Then went another $5,000 into the T56 swap after I grenaded the stock 5 speed, the Vortech, SCT tuner, exhaust, etc.

One day though....... Unfortunately everyone on here will hate me by the time I do anything with it though, lol! There's a chance my next daily driver may be an F250. My buddy wants to upgrade to a newer F350 dually, so he's given me the idea of saving for his Powerstroke.

BlackenedBird

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Put a LS1/2/3 or LQ4/9 into your 'stang & all is forgiven!

Shadow Z

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No way man! I love that 4.6 2 valve sound way too much. When I get into some serious power I'll upgrade a bit though. MMR 5.0 stroker short block, possibly opt for their Boss 302 block and punch it out a little more to a 5.3.

It'll have enough to keep me happy for a while though. Should make about 430 at the crank at only 8 PSI with the 3.6" pulley, and it'll still be daily driven. Not too awesome considering that's stock LS3 territory, but hey, it's a good amount of power for a little 4.6.

92purplehaze

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blackened bird bitches more than that stephen guy...now that i think about it.....

BlackenedBird

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I haven't sat around & read up on his posts, but I dunno about me bitchin'. Just want to give everyone the chance to mod their car within their budget, whatever it may be & not tell them they cannot do something just because they can't afford to do something MY way.

I commend people for doing what fits in their budget & is still safe to do, that is all.

Your obsessed with this Stephen guy.....My name is Dean, if you need to know it.

92purplehaze

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Obsessed, no. I just sit outside his house and watch him from a safe distance.

toxik IROC

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I Would not cut spring man its a bad idea....

92purplehaze

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Nothing wrong with cutting springs as long as they dont get hot.

JamesC

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It would appear that the OP's question has been answered. The rest is off-topic and argumentative.

JamesC