Engine Panning Help (383)
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 676
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 04 Xtreme Blazer
Engine: 4.3L V6
Transmission: 4L60E
Engine Panning Help (383)
Ok, I need help on cam selection and anlything you think would be better different, let me know
this will be a 383
350 .030 over....1 piece rear main, 2 bolt converted to splayed 4 bolt
Eagle forged steel crank, 3.75 stroke
Eagle ESP 5.7 rods
Forged pistons 10.5:1-11:1 CR..........suggestions on brand?
Fluid Dampr
Cam? will be Roller
Steel roller rockers Comp Cam?
AFR heads........190/195? or more?
Fuel Injection..HSR?LT1?or aftermarket(i.e. carb style manifold w/4 barrel TB)?
Hooker Super Comp Long Tube Headers(ceramic coated)
700R4 from www.pro-built.net
stall convertor as recommended by manufacturer..........Ideas on Man.?
ok, any ideas on what cam I should get? I would like shifting some where around 6000 rpm(Higher is OK to a certain point)
It will be street driven, not a daily driver, but driven often in summer
This will be going in a (my) 89 IROC,
will get a roll bar (maybe a cage)
If needed(probably will) I will get a Moser 12 bolt
Any ideas on rough HP?
Right now, my car has a 3.73 gear, if/when I get the 12 bolt, what gear should I get?
anybody know of a shop that has an engine dyno in Michigan?
this will be a 383
350 .030 over....1 piece rear main, 2 bolt converted to splayed 4 bolt
Eagle forged steel crank, 3.75 stroke
Eagle ESP 5.7 rods
Forged pistons 10.5:1-11:1 CR..........suggestions on brand?
Fluid Dampr
Cam? will be Roller
Steel roller rockers Comp Cam?
AFR heads........190/195? or more?
Fuel Injection..HSR?LT1?or aftermarket(i.e. carb style manifold w/4 barrel TB)?
Hooker Super Comp Long Tube Headers(ceramic coated)
700R4 from www.pro-built.net
stall convertor as recommended by manufacturer..........Ideas on Man.?
ok, any ideas on what cam I should get? I would like shifting some where around 6000 rpm(Higher is OK to a certain point)
It will be street driven, not a daily driver, but driven often in summer
This will be going in a (my) 89 IROC,
will get a roll bar (maybe a cage)
If needed(probably will) I will get a Moser 12 bolt
Any ideas on rough HP?
Right now, my car has a 3.73 gear, if/when I get the 12 bolt, what gear should I get?
anybody know of a shop that has an engine dyno in Michigan?
Last edited by Dave Y; 08-30-2003 at 12:31 PM.
#2
Supreme Member
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Lower Salford, PA
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Car: 1987 Camaro Z-28
Engine: 6.3L Victor EFI
Transmission: Tremec TKO 600
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"/4.11 Trac-Lok
Your plans sound very similar to what I just put in mine. I'd go with a 6" rod unless you plan to use nitrous. Converting the block to a splayed 4 bolt may be overkill. Used 4 bolt roller blocks are easy to come by. Either the Comp XR276HR or the XR282HR will work well with a carb or HSR.
#3
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 676
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 04 Xtreme Blazer
Engine: 4.3L V6
Transmission: 4L60E
I am now thinking of using some Dart Pro1 heads, 200cc intake and 64cc chamber.............think these will be good?
also, what are the advantages of using the 6" rod vs the 5.7" rod in a 383?
also, what are the advantages of using the 6" rod vs the 5.7" rod in a 383?
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2001
Location: springfield,IL
Posts: 745
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: T/A / Grand Am
Engine: 383 SBC
Transmission: glide
Axle/Gears: 9" ford 5.67
There are some cranks out there for use with 6" rods, that can be internally balanced. I never found a flexplate for use with a one piece seal, that was made for the stroker crank. I ended up using a 350 and adding the weight for balancing. The other way is to add heavy metal to the crank, that cost more than the purchase of the crank. I used sealed power hyper pistons in mine, they also make them in forged.
#5
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 676
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 04 Xtreme Blazer
Engine: 4.3L V6
Transmission: 4L60E
the Eagle crank I plan on using( at this time) is Jegs Part number 356-435337505700 , which is forged steel, 1 piece rear main, 3.75 stroke , for use with 5.7 or 6" rods and internally balanced
so, are there advantages to using 6" rods?
so, are there advantages to using 6" rods?
#6
Supreme Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Markham
Posts: 2,494
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1990 Camaro
Engine: 355ci
Transmission: TKO-600 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73 10 bolt
heres a crate engine that is in the october 2003 chevy hi performance. Its called the 383 ci/525 hp enforcer its made by American Speed and i know your not buying a crate but i plan to build a 383 a lot like this so i thought id run it buy you.
Write up: If youre looking for something that sounds really cool and packs a herd of wild horses, check out the 383 ci enforcer. With its hydraulic roller camshaft ground to provide 242/248 degrees of duration at .050 and o.567/0.563-inch lift youll have one awesome idling motor. Underneath the afr 195 CNC-ported heads resides a GM four-bolt-main block fitted with probe forged pistons and a 3.75 inch stroke nodular-iron crankshaft.
Specs:
Cubes:383
HP:525 at 5,800 rpm
TQ:520 lb-ft at 4500 rpm
Block:GM four bolt main
Compression:9.6:1
crankshaft: Nodular-iron crank w/ 3.75 inch stroke
rods:5.7 inch steel rods
pistons: Probe forged pistons
Cam:Comp cams hydraulic roller
Heads: AFR 195 CNC competition ported
intake: edelbrock rpm
Price:8590
just some fuel for thought thats a sick engine low compression and as much tq as hp thatd be a sick street motor.
Write up: If youre looking for something that sounds really cool and packs a herd of wild horses, check out the 383 ci enforcer. With its hydraulic roller camshaft ground to provide 242/248 degrees of duration at .050 and o.567/0.563-inch lift youll have one awesome idling motor. Underneath the afr 195 CNC-ported heads resides a GM four-bolt-main block fitted with probe forged pistons and a 3.75 inch stroke nodular-iron crankshaft.
Specs:
Cubes:383
HP:525 at 5,800 rpm
TQ:520 lb-ft at 4500 rpm
Block:GM four bolt main
Compression:9.6:1
crankshaft: Nodular-iron crank w/ 3.75 inch stroke
rods:5.7 inch steel rods
pistons: Probe forged pistons
Cam:Comp cams hydraulic roller
Heads: AFR 195 CNC competition ported
intake: edelbrock rpm
Price:8590
just some fuel for thought thats a sick engine low compression and as much tq as hp thatd be a sick street motor.
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2001
Location: springfield,IL
Posts: 745
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: T/A / Grand Am
Engine: 383 SBC
Transmission: glide
Axle/Gears: 9" ford 5.67
Originally posted by Dave Y
the Eagle crank I plan on using( at this time) is Jegs Part number 356-435337505700 , which is forged steel, 1 piece rear main, 3.75 stroke , for use with 5.7 or 6" rods and internally balanced
so, are there advantages to using 6" rods?
the Eagle crank I plan on using( at this time) is Jegs Part number 356-435337505700 , which is forged steel, 1 piece rear main, 3.75 stroke , for use with 5.7 or 6" rods and internally balanced
so, are there advantages to using 6" rods?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post