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Old 06-04-2001, 01:45 AM
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how do you remove an engine that wont turn over?

I have an 89 l98 tpi iroc that the engine froze up on. I cant turn it either direction at all. I am in the process of trying to pull it out but cant get to all of the flexplate to torque converter bolts. Am i supposed to pull the transmission out with it or is there some trick to get around it? Can i just pull the torque converter off and pull it out with the engine? What would you guys recommend to pull this thing out. What all do i have to do to get the transmission loose to get it out with the engine?
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Just pull it. The torque converter will slide off the tranny input shaft.

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Keep in mind when using the above method, you will make a big mess when the conv clears the seal.

You will lose about 2 or 3 quarts of oil.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Engineboy:
Keep in mind when using the above method, you will make a big mess when the conv clears the seal.

You will lose about 2 or 3 quarts of oil.
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And you might consider replacing the seal, It just might get jackedup when you wiggle the converter out of there. That would be even more of a mess.
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id be afraid to do it that way because to pull the converter out, you gotta come ahead at least 4-6 inches, and you cant do that until you are out of the motor mounts, which means you gotta lift up and ahead and jerk and wiggle. id be afraid of bending input shaft or cracking pump housing or something. id vote for pulling tranny with motor and then separating that way.
just my opinion, never actually done that one.
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You could also undo the tranny mount and crossmember and pull both out at the same time.

Just means you need to angle the engine up when you pull it.
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Pull them both...it is a lot easier in the long run.


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I just did this, for my 2.8/2.8 swap. My friend melted his 2.8 together (oil pan cracked & he ran out of oil), and we swapped it with another $100 2.8.

We just pulled the engine, left the trans in the car. When we lifted the motor up, we also had the trans angled up a bit. The torque convertor popped off the trans input shaft, and sent the motor flying toward the radiator- good thing we removed it!

The pain was getting the TC off the flexplate. We had to use a Sawzall to cut the flexplate apart to get a wrench on the remaining "blocked" bolt. If the sawzall didn't work, we were going to drop the pan and pry out the crankshaft.

And yeah, trans fluid went everywhere... put a pan under the trans/engine area, and when you get the engine in the air, stuff a shop rag into the torque convertor to keep some of the fluid in there until you can drain it- otherwise, you'll leave a trail of trans fluid over the front of your car and down the driveway

Oh- brake cleaner does a good job of removing trans fluid (and other stuff) from concrete!


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I agree witht the guys that say pull it as a unit. Separate the trans after it's out and sitting on the floor.

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