Oil Filter is stuck
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Car: 1982 Trans Am
Engine: LG4
Transmission: 200C
Axle/Gears: 3:73
Oil Filter is stuck
On my 82 Trans Am, the oil filter is stuck. It has the stock 305 LG4. The car has Hooker 2055s shorty headers. The car was in storage for 7 months, and was just brought out of storage. I have tried an oil filter wrench and poking a screwdriver through the filter, but I am unable to get it to move. When using the screwdriver method, I sheared the sides of the oil filter. I made sure the screwdriver went through the entire filter.
I also used a cap that slid on to the bottom of the filter, and then used a 3/8 inch drive to turn the cap. The cap was not able to get a good grip on the filter, and just slid around it.
The filter has a few more tears in it now.
Any suggestions?
I also used a cap that slid on to the bottom of the filter, and then used a 3/8 inch drive to turn the cap. The cap was not able to get a good grip on the filter, and just slid around it.
The filter has a few more tears in it now.
Any suggestions?
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Get a bigger guy to use the oil filter wrench
the oil filter wrench has never failed me.
the oil filter wrench has never failed me.
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Car: 84 Z28
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Transmission: TH-350C
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Haha, wow this brings back memories of last week...
Just got my new motor in and figured what the heck ill change the oil again after a few hours driving...
Well it took 1.5hrs of grunting and groaning and 3 different types of filter wrenches to get the damn thing off. I dont know what the things problem was, i did the usual 1/2-3/4 spin on it and this one just locked on there good!
Just got my new motor in and figured what the heck ill change the oil again after a few hours driving...
Well it took 1.5hrs of grunting and groaning and 3 different types of filter wrenches to get the damn thing off. I dont know what the things problem was, i did the usual 1/2-3/4 spin on it and this one just locked on there good!
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Yea, the screw driver method really does not work anymore since the metal on the filters is thin.
They do make a oil filter wrench with a "claw" type deal on it that tightens. But since you tore the filter already, I don't know if that would even work.
They do make a oil filter wrench with a "claw" type deal on it that tightens. But since you tore the filter already, I don't know if that would even work.
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my trick is to put a hose clamp around it. potition the bolt so that you can hit it to turn the filter loose. tighten it up good. then with a small hammer give it a good hit. might need to use a punch or something if theres not enough room.
This trick has helped me in the past but now I have a socket adapter for my wratched that fits the end of the filter. it works great.
This trick has helped me in the past but now I have a socket adapter for my wratched that fits the end of the filter. it works great.
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Car: 1982 Trans Am
Engine: LG4
Transmission: 200C
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Fram filters have a bad reputation for their filtration ability.
Well, I picked up a jaw type clamp, and it held onto the filter well, but the filter still didn't move. I started to run out of ideas, and ended up with this.
There is nothing left in the filter. Tuesday it's going to be towed to a local shop, unless I can use a pliers to get it off. I got a nice cut while doing that, blood started coming out of my glove.
Well, I picked up a jaw type clamp, and it held onto the filter well, but the filter still didn't move. I started to run out of ideas, and ended up with this.
There is nothing left in the filter. Tuesday it's going to be towed to a local shop, unless I can use a pliers to get it off. I got a nice cut while doing that, blood started coming out of my glove.
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What if you sprayed some WD40 or something in between the oil filter and block circle? Let it set up, do it again...
Can't hurt and maybe it will help loosen that rubber gasket.
Can't hurt and maybe it will help loosen that rubber gasket.
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Car: 1982 Trans-Am
Engine: 355 w/ ported 416s
Transmission: T10, hurst shifter
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if you remove enough of the filter, get to the two bolts holding your oil filter adapter to your block. 7/16" head bolts? Remove those, then you can put your oil filter adapter in a bench vise, and remove all traces of that POS filter. Then just bolt the adapter back to the motor.
Seems like you've removed enough of the filter that this will be easy.
Seems like you've removed enough of the filter that this will be easy.
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Car: 84 Z28
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Transmission: TH-350C
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^^^^
If you can get to the 2 7/16" bolts that holds the adapter on, once those loosen a bit the filter will spin off easily. You dont even have to take it right off because the mating surface of the filters gasket is on the block not the adapter itself.
If you can get to the 2 7/16" bolts that holds the adapter on, once those loosen a bit the filter will spin off easily. You dont even have to take it right off because the mating surface of the filters gasket is on the block not the adapter itself.
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next time use a screwdriver through the filter, and an oil filter wrench at the same time. its how i got my stuck filter off.
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Tear the entire piece of foil off. You'll be left with a metal plate with some holes in it. Use a punch and a hammer to turn that. Piece of cake.
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Originally Posted by sofakingdom
Tear the entire piece of foil off. You'll be left with a metal plate with some holes in it. Use a punch and a hammer to turn that. Piece of cake.
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Tear the entire piece of foil off. You'll be left with a metal plate with some holes in it. Use a punch and a hammer to turn that. Piece of cake.
I'm an oil change tech. I've seen some pretty bad filters in my day, but I think I've only had one that I could not get off and gave up on and it was a foreign car with no room to use a tool in.
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Still Stuck??????
Did you try to tighten it again and then try to loosen it?
How about trying to get a screw up where the filter mates with the block and taping it with a hammer. Lefty loosy righty tighty.
Maybe a big pair of channel locks or pipe wrench.
How about trying to get a screw up where the filter mates with the block and taping it with a hammer. Lefty loosy righty tighty.
Maybe a big pair of channel locks or pipe wrench.
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Car: '87 Trans-Am
Engine: LB9 (305 TPI)
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 or 3.73..figuring it out still
Yea, large channel locks grabbing higher up near the block is what I would have recommended earlier on. I think your best bet now is going to be tering that foil off and tapping it as suggested above already.
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Car: 1985 TransAm
Engine: 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4 auto
Axle/Gears: 3.27 BorgWarner
what type of fliter is that so we all know what to avoid looks like purelator or delco?
i had a fed problems with the delcos wanting to come off on my grand prix
i had a fed problems with the delcos wanting to come off on my grand prix
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Keep hacking away bro! You've almost got it off! Maybe someone forgot to put a light coat of oil on the gasket before they put it on.
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If he hasn't already started doing this... Then it's probably already off by now.
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