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Old 03-16-2009, 09:56 PM   #1
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Comp beehive spring installed height Qs

I am very excited that according to Carcraft i can drop in a set of comp 26918 or 26915 beehive springs into my vortec casting an instantly have 0.550" lift capabilities. I order to determine which springs best suit a GM lt4 HOT cam i need to know the height they will be installed at. I know that the stock vortec springs have a 1.700" installed height, but i am unsure if the behive retainers will change that (the 0.100 extra lift has to come from somewhere).

So i was wondering if anyone has used beehives in the past? Will the beehive specific retainers (comp 787) change the installed height realtive to the stock vortec retainers?

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Old 03-16-2009, 10:15 PM   #2
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Re: Comp beehive spring installed height Qs

I have 26918 springs installed on my Vortecs.
Installed height; 1.820".
I've also had the heads machined for screw in studs and guide plates. The 1.6 Pro Magnum non guided rockers required the pushrods holes to be elongated as well.
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Old 03-16-2009, 10:26 PM   #3
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Re: Comp beehive spring installed height Qs

thanks skinny, do you have stock length valves? If so thats good news, i won't have to hunt around for +0.100 valves.

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Re: Comp beehive spring installed height Qs

Original valves. Except for one which I bent during a missed shift. (7000+)
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Re: Comp beehive spring installed height Qs

You can also use Manley 22410-16 springs, 23652-16 retainers and get .550" lift with Vortec heads. They're not beehives but they might be less expensive. I used them just fine with my Corvette heads and LT4 hot cam.
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Re: Comp beehive spring installed height Qs

does that mean you do not have to do any machining? IE spring seat and valve guides?
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does that mean you do not have to do any machining? IE spring seat and valve guides?
No machining required for springs seats or guides.
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Re: Comp beehive spring installed height Qs

Link to Car Craft please. I have installed '918s and ARP 134-7101 studs. I know theres an increase in available lift, but I had no idea it was that much. If thats the case, that opens all kinds of doors for cam selection.
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Link to Car Craft please. I have installed '918s and ARP 134-7101 studs. I know theres an increase in available lift, but I had no idea it was that much. If thats the case, that opens all kinds of doors for cam selection.

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Much appreciated.
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Link to Car Craft please. I have installed '918s and ARP 134-7101 studs. I know theres an increase in available lift, but I had no idea it was that much. If thats the case, that opens all kinds of doors for cam selection.

I got a package deal from comp themselves and run the 26918 beehives at 1.800 installed height and run an extreme fuel cam.....576./.571 lift and they work great...so those springs can handle over .550 lift....they are good to .600 lift according to comps web site!! http://www.compperformancegroupstore...&Category_Code=
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