Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Tech / General Engine

Tech / General Engine Why is my car making that sound? My car won't start! Combination questions? Don't see a board for your problem or have other technical or engine specific questions? Post them here!

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


View Poll Results: Keep TPI or go Old School
TPI 25 78.13%
Old School a.k.a. Carb 7 21.88%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-14-2009, 01:26 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
firebird896's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicagoland Area
Posts: 480
Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm
Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock
Transmission: 700r4 x2
Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Keep TPI or go Old School????

Hey guys Im debating whether I should just keep the Tpi or go with the carb. I just picked up a '79 350 and it has a Holley carb and intake on it. As of now Im replacing all of the gaskets on it due to it sitting for 7+ yrs, before then it was recently rebuilt. Right now the engine I have in my '86 TA is a 305 Tpi and the damn thing keeps sputtering and spitting but having just hit 160K miles and needing a tune I just dont want to pay any more for the shop to fix everything.

So what is it guys?? Go Old School or the present TPI??

I have time because I'm not doing anything major till the winter.
This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on ThirdGen!
__________________
Live Every Day Like It's Your Last.

-1986 TransAm WS6 305TPI 700r4, 2.77 gearing 159,xxx miles. Got for $1200

-1989 TransAm GTA WS6 350 Tpi only 24,xxx miles ( In memory of my dad R.I.P. Aug 24, 2005)


My 1989 Trans Am GTA
My 1986 Trans Am
My 1998 Trans Am (Grad Present)
firebird896 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Registered users do not see this ad.
Click here to register for free!
Old 08-14-2009, 03:42 AM   #2
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: MiAmi
Posts: 77
Car: 92 CaMaRo RS - 99 2 DOOR TAHOE
Engine: CARBED 350 5.7

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

i myself have a older 70s chevy motor with the same components you said yours had. im going through the process of rebuilding it with some goodies now and personally i say go old school. post some updates if you decide to go this route id like to see. what are the numbers on the block and heads?
MaDeNMiAMi305 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 09:42 AM   #3
Member
 
RobSS1113's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Harlingen Tx.
Posts: 124

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

from previous experience from friends and such stick with the TPI.

Whats weird is that people with old school motors go with new stuff such as TPI motors and people with TPI motors like to go Old school like you do. So this is a no win situation or a 50/50 answer on that question.
RobSS1113 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 11:44 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
firebird896's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicagoland Area
Posts: 480
Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm
Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock
Transmission: 700r4 x2
Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

Im just about to go back out in the garage and work on it so I'll update you on that later...much later lol. I know what you mean, but I do have an 89 GTA with 24k miles on it!! It has a 350 TPI and its bone stock I also have a 98 Ls1 TA that I got for a graduation present, but my sisters car....make that beast when she can drive is a 1979 Ford Bronco, 400ci of raw CARBed motor, It does need a new carb because having a rebuilt motor...ya its choking it

The funny thing is I don't event know how to tune it, No I'm not rich or live ina $1+ dollar house, although that be cool cause of more garage space, I just work realllllly hard to get stuff at a good price


So sorry for the VERY long history of me, does that give ya any other thoughts??
__________________
Live Every Day Like It's Your Last.

-1986 TransAm WS6 305TPI 700r4, 2.77 gearing 159,xxx miles. Got for $1200

-1989 TransAm GTA WS6 350 Tpi only 24,xxx miles ( In memory of my dad R.I.P. Aug 24, 2005)


My 1989 Trans Am GTA
My 1986 Trans Am
My 1998 Trans Am (Grad Present)
firebird896 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2009, 12:17 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Supervisor42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arab, Alabama
Posts: 1,610
Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 350 4BBL
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

I think you should get the '86 a tune up, swap it to your sister for the Bronco and sell it to someone to build a rock crawler out of.
That 400 ci Bronco will eat $1200 in gas the first year she drives it...
(how do you afford insurance on all 4?)
Supervisor42 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2009, 12:26 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
firebird896's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicagoland Area
Posts: 480
Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm
Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock
Transmission: 700r4 x2
Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

I know it does, I drive it over the winter and the spring till the weather gets nice, I think I put about 6K on it myself

Its Pricey
__________________
Live Every Day Like It's Your Last.

-1986 TransAm WS6 305TPI 700r4, 2.77 gearing 159,xxx miles. Got for $1200

-1989 TransAm GTA WS6 350 Tpi only 24,xxx miles ( In memory of my dad R.I.P. Aug 24, 2005)


My 1989 Trans Am GTA
My 1986 Trans Am
My 1998 Trans Am (Grad Present)
firebird896 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2009, 11:53 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
firebird896's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicagoland Area
Posts: 480
Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm
Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock
Transmission: 700r4 x2
Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

Im having such a hard time deciding, I know the carb doesn't adjust itself like the TPI would, but I love the look of a carb, I lost, I dont want a TBI because of all the other junk I would have to deal with.

I know what you guys think but try to put yourself in my shoes
__________________
Live Every Day Like It's Your Last.

-1986 TransAm WS6 305TPI 700r4, 2.77 gearing 159,xxx miles. Got for $1200

-1989 TransAm GTA WS6 350 Tpi only 24,xxx miles ( In memory of my dad R.I.P. Aug 24, 2005)


My 1989 Trans Am GTA
My 1986 Trans Am
My 1998 Trans Am (Grad Present)
firebird896 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 05:19 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Viprklr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: N. Illinois
Posts: 3,282
Car: 92 GTA/ 00 TA
Engine: 383/350
Transmission: 700R4/T-56

Classifieds Rating: (4)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

TPI

You just can't beat the aesthetics.
Viprklr is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 09:58 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Supervisor42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arab, Alabama
Posts: 1,610
Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 350 4BBL
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viprklr View Post
TPI

You just can't beat the aesthetics.
Ahmen to that.
I still have mine, it ran a 9.6 in the 1/8 mile at the strip before I pulled it out.
Ran great. Looks great.
It lives in the garage.
On a stand.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 100_0277_10.JPG (686.5 KB, 15 views)
Supervisor42 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 10:30 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Norwalk, CA
Posts: 846
Car: 91 RS
Engine: 305tbi
Transmission: 700r4 2500TCI stall
Axle/Gears: 2.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

Id say stay with tpi but its up to you its your car and no one should tell you what to do with it
JR350tpi is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 10:33 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
firebird896's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicagoland Area
Posts: 480
Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm
Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock
Transmission: 700r4 x2
Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

So you had a Tpi engine hen swaped it for a Carb?
__________________
Live Every Day Like It's Your Last.

-1986 TransAm WS6 305TPI 700r4, 2.77 gearing 159,xxx miles. Got for $1200

-1989 TransAm GTA WS6 350 Tpi only 24,xxx miles ( In memory of my dad R.I.P. Aug 24, 2005)


My 1989 Trans Am GTA
My 1986 Trans Am
My 1998 Trans Am (Grad Present)
firebird896 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 10:52 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Norwalk, CA
Posts: 846
Car: 91 RS
Engine: 305tbi
Transmission: 700r4 2500TCI stall
Axle/Gears: 2.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

It is weird how people who have the tbis, or carb want tpi and with the others its backwards, like i have a tbi but i am wanting a tpi but to pricey to do the swap
JR350tpi is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 11:08 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Supervisor42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arab, Alabama
Posts: 1,610
Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 350 4BBL
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

Quote:
Originally Posted by firebird896 View Post
So you had a Tpi engine then swaped it for a Carb?
I changed the whole engine package. But I'm old and I know I can make HP with a carb and don't give a crap about under-the-hood glitz. BTW isn't Illinoiz an emissions inspection state? If the '88 wasn't available with a carb, it won't pass inspection.
EDIT: Oh, it's an '86, my bad.

Last edited by Supervisor42; 10-16-2009 at 10:20 PM. Reason: senior moment.
Supervisor42 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 11:24 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Supervisor42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arab, Alabama
Posts: 1,610
Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 350 4BBL
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

In all honesty, the TPI setup is capable of feeding a 350 so it is more than adequate to make plenty of HP with the 305. If you are going to keep the 305 block and pass emissions, it's a no-brainer. Keep the TPI.
Supervisor42 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 11:37 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
berlin305's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Belleville, KS
Posts: 518
Car: 1986 camaro coupe
Engine: 305 v8 HO, edlebrock carbed
Transmission: Borg Warner WC T5
Axle/Gears: what ever came with these cars

Classifieds Rating: (2)
Send a message via MSN to berlin305
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

Yea like everyone has said. Tpi a go or Carb a go. But in all and all its how you want it. I myself rather have carb with manual choke for the reason NO computer bs. It gets real old when the electronic this and that went out. So if you go mechanical less hassle. IMO though. Also cheaper.

But again NO emission law where i live. Keep that in mind.
berlin305 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2009, 12:03 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
firebird896's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicagoland Area
Posts: 480
Car: 1989TransAmGTA/1986TransAm
Engine: 350 L98 Stock / 305 LB9 Stock
Transmission: 700r4 x2
Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 3.27 Posi / 2.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

Emission here is only for '96 up, they only test the obdII computer for the emission crap. For everyones info I HAVE a 305 but Im putting in a 350, that what Im deciding to put a carb or Tpi on.
__________________
Live Every Day Like It's Your Last.

-1986 TransAm WS6 305TPI 700r4, 2.77 gearing 159,xxx miles. Got for $1200

-1989 TransAm GTA WS6 350 Tpi only 24,xxx miles ( In memory of my dad R.I.P. Aug 24, 2005)


My 1989 Trans Am GTA
My 1986 Trans Am
My 1998 Trans Am (Grad Present)
firebird896 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2009, 10:28 AM   #17
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Englewood, CO
Posts: 914
Car: 1990 Trans Am
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: factory T5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 limited slip

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Send a message via AIM to 300hpse
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

Tpi=old school .

Im on my first tpi car and I really enjoy it so far. It really has to be one of best street inductions you can get from the pre obdii era. No pumping your gas pedal on cold mornings and great throttle response and torque. Some people like to shake their fists at evil computers controlling their cars but honostly a tpi system is really pretty simple. You just need to take the time to learn it and once you start to understand the simple diagnostic procedures for it and how the componenets interact, it isn't nearly as bad as some people think to work with.
300hpse is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 11:41 AM   #18
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 51
Car: 88 IROC
Engine: 305TPI
Transmission: 700r4/T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.23

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

[quote=300hpse;4315011]Tpi=old school .

compared to the ls models tpi is old school, not as old as carb. I had a carb on one of mine(had to baby it to get around 16 mpg)...swapped over to tpi...i get that mileage with ease now(while giving the car a work out) driveability is better IMO....I was just never happy with a carberator.
red/white04 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 10:18 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Supervisor42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arab, Alabama
Posts: 1,610
Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 350 4BBL
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Keep TPI or go Old School????

Quote:
Originally Posted by red/white04 View Post
....I was just never happy with a carburetor.
Making a carb work is a dying artform. It's probably just as well...
Some of us will still keep one around just to hear "the back barrels kick in" and remember when....
Supervisor42 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Tech / General Engine

Tags
24, 28, 350, 89, engines, fix, heads, injection, older, people, port, problems, tpi, trans, tuned, v8
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 






1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
All content copyright © 1997 - 2009 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.