jsleeper81

I am wanting to get a after market air cleaner,
can I get one with the factory exhaust manifold since the intake snorkel hooks up to that exhaust manifold and also what to do with the valve cover hose that hooks up to the factory filter cover.
and the sensor and other things that hook up to the factory air cleaner
I have been questioning this since I got the car this is why I have not put one on yet this is why I am asking other who have done this
motor is a 305 tbi I know it is not a 350 and most people wil think this motor is not worth doing anything to but I am just wanting to clean the bay up a little bit

torque_is_good

it is called an open element air cleaner and has been covered many many many many times in the TBI section.

the heat stove from the manifold can be disregarded. A vacuum plug takes care of that at the base of the tbi

the one sensor you just drill a hole into the base of the cleaner.

Go get a 14 inch by 2 inch or 2 1/2 inch chrome unit at the local parts store. They cost anywhere from $20-$30. Buy a vacuum cap too, break out the drill, 10 minutes later and you are done. It's not complicated and nothing to be scared about doing.

jsleeper81

nothing I'm scared of doing just unfamiliar territory I came from building hondas so not to sure of what can and can't be done

torque_is_good

again, the horse has been beaten to death in the tbi section. If you search there you'll get plenty of hits. It's a sub $30, 10 minute mod.

It makes it purdy under the hood but you need headers and a y pipe because those stock exh manifolds are pathetic

jsleeper81

yeah I plan on putting headers on but I am thinking about starting from the rear forward as in first muffler so I can have some more sound that factory then I will order some headers and superflow cat then go from there.
I at least want to put a performance muffler and different better filter to help her breath better.
this is my birthday present my wife says so I am limited on how much I can spend other wise I would do a headers back and a new filter/cleaner.
I figured that a muffler and filter alone would be a good start for my first mod on the car.
like I said this is my first real american muscle car I have only built and owned imports and as far as muscle the closest thing to that I've had is a 70's model 280z.
I found what you was talking about and it is great info I should have looked more I'm always going through search I guess I was just putting the wrong words in.
Anyways, my wife is giving me 200.00 so I figured that would be enough to get a performance muffler and air cleaner.
what muffler would you recomend I hear a lot of people talking about flowmaster and magnaflow are there any other mufflers you or anyone else would recomend.

UnderCover89TBI

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more people like magnaflow id say. although flowmaster does sound good too. the air cleaner mod is cheap and easy. basically just dont buy anything that you cant use on a 350 and you'll be okay

jsleeper81

that's kinda my plan I am looking to later down the road building a 383 stroker just not sure if I want to do a 383 carb or ls1.
I like the ls1 Idea cause from what I have researched the ls1 can get me more mpg, since it will be my daily driver for the most part.
being that it is a 305 I don't want to put to many bolt on parts since I will do more of that for a higher potential engine instead.
I'm mainly looking for the engine bay to look cleaner nicer and for it to sound louder/better I've always like the way the muscle cars sounded unlike the high pitched imports I have always gotten and now that I have what I would consider muscle I want it to sound like it to.
I know it is still just the 305 but in my oppinion far better than my last car which was a built acura integra 1.8 na.
it was a nice car but no where near the potential of this one I think.

torque_is_good

$200!!! Do both

what's that you ask?

I believe that Dynomax still has a rebate going on. If you go to streetsideauto.com you should be able to get the dynomax system for less than $140 shipped to your door. That's a complete cat back system and will work fine with the 305 and a lightly modified 350. Don't get all worked up on plans that may or may not happen in a few years and spending countless hours discussing exhaust. For under $140 for a better flowing system, not just muffler, how can you beat that? You'd still have money for an open element air cleaner and even some pretty 8mm spark plug wires from Summit.

as they say, the ball is now in your court.

UnderCover89TBI

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Yeah the LS1 get better fuel mileage. The 305 tbi gets good mileage when running right also but just doesnt have the power you want. Id say spend sparingly and save up for the next build.

SKELITOR117

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Complete cat back system!? i have to jump on this

torque_is_good

not via PM but here so more can benefit

Here is the press release which states purchases until 8/31/2011 can get the $75 rebate

http://www.dynomax.com/press_release...mail-in-rebate


and here is the link to streetsideauto.com for the system. Free shipping, $202 price minus $75 rebate = $127 to your door. I don't know why anyone would run a stock system any more. Don't beat the dead horse which is discussions about exahsut this and exhaust that. For $127 what do you have to lose?

http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/dyno...at-back-17495/

you can try coupon code Q3102011 and you might get $10 more off the price. Remember, a rebate comes from Dynomax so you pay streetside the total and then get the rebate. So, if the $10 off works the total out of pocket could be $117.

jsleeper81

I would like a full cat back but I thought I would have to have my factory system cut off and a new one welded on but it looks like this system is full bolt on.
Here is my question the web site given is for 201.95 I was looking at the website and it seems like the one that they are calling for my model is this one http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/dyno...at-back-17493/
I'm assuming this is because mine is not a iroc or z28 and is the rs with the 305tbi.
any input on this subject one is a 3" flare and the other is a 2.5" flare don't know if that changes anything at all.
this is Why I'm leaning so much toward the ls1 since it comes with around 300Hp and 340 lb ft. of torque give or take depending on year I'm not sure if that is fwhp or rwhp but more than my 305 right out of the box.
Plus those engines average 20mpg high/city driving which is still good.
I'm actually only looking for 350-400hp which is still more than I'll ever need and from what I have heard with a ls1 with mostly bolt ons I can achieve that range.
That even if I decide not to do a 383 stroker kit on the ls1.
I know the shop I checked at told me they would put a single in dual out 40 series flowmaster for 150.00 but that is with all oem pipes from the muffler to the header.
I'll look on youtube to hear some clips of the dynomax set up.
Like I said I'm not looking for more power so much the 305 is not worth dumping much into I'm mostly looking for sound/looks than anything.
Thank to everyone for all the input and just so everyone knows when the wife allows me to buy a block to start working on which ever way I go ( I'm leaning heavily toward ls1 )I will will make a new thread to show progress of my build just every one keep in mind though that when I do start building it will be a very long progression since my cash flow is limited.
I will keep everyone posted but it might not be till jan or feb before I can start a motor build thread.
Also when I get my exhaust and air cleaner done I'll post some pics of before and after so you can see what I have to work with.
This is the only picture I have of the camaro for now.
it is a 92 rs green I bought it from my uncle for $1,000.00 he tried painting as you can see it is flaking lol. and a need some tlc but shes mine and can't wait to get started.
not to bad for what I paid though have not found any around here for that price that runs at least.
let me know what you guys/gals think for what I have to start with.
I'll have some more pics when I get started.

SKELITOR117

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looking to get the Dynomax Super Turbo Cat-Back Exhaust system. is it a good buy? I may only be $127 when all is said and done, but it is still $127, and I am not a rich man by anyones standards if you get my meaning.

jsleeper81

ain't that the truth my wife tells me to get what ever I want hell back when I was building hondas I would be building 2 motors a years costing anywhere from 2-4K each build.
but things have changed she still tells me to do it but I know we don't have it, Plus I know why she is wanting me to build this car up especially cause she would rather drive this than the 02 blazer I bought her.
It's funny cause she says it sits to low the ac does not get cold enough and the paint is ugly but she loves that when she hits the gas and it goes with no hesitation.
at least that is what she says.

SKELITOR117

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She probably says that cause she drives a blazer. Which is not quick. The Camaro 5.0 isn't "BAD". it just isn't what is considered 'performance" in this day and age. it was great in the 80's when your average car either weighed 10000 lbs or had 70 hp. it can still keep up with todays vehicles and more. So not bad. Def. a new exhaust would help. That's why I want this. That and a better air cleaner. It's a good combo haha.

SKELITOR117

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That is a great project car by the way. Get some cheap paint and a few clear coats, and it'll look 100 times better (even though it isn't). but air flow upgrades should be your first performance priority.

jsleeper81

I know its not the quickest camaro built I've drive ws6 newer models and a 93 z28 lt1 both took nothing to break the a$$ loose compared to mine but to her the camaro is the most powerful thing she has ever driven.
she has already asked me if I could put a v8 in the truck which I told her I could just not sure if its something I'm willing to do quite yet, if at all

jsleeper81

Once I get me another portable garage I lost my last one, I will be hooking my air compressor back up 60 gallon 11.5 cfm which should be more than enough to paint thank you for last years birthday present
the only thing I lack is a paint gun which no point in getting till I have somewhere I can paint of course.
I will only be painting on the out side and hopefully changing the color till I have time to paint inside and out, since it is a daily driver.

SKELITOR117

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You could put a 350 in that blazer without much hastle. But If I were you I'd just sell it and get her a car with a little more power.

PS. When I say "without much hastle", I mean compaired to puting a 350 in a toaster. Engine swaps are obviously hastles. But that is a popular convertion.

xX89RSXx

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Does anyone have this dynomax system with a sound clip?
http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/dyno...7495/#MoreInfo

jsleeper81

you ain't lying it's a hassle I told her I would like to get a 02 z28 but we have 2 kids and she thinks it will be 2 hard to get them in and out.
She said she wants a charger I refused only because I have heard nothing good about them.
I told her that we can get a grand prix gtp in the sedan model but she does not like that body style. lol
she is just to damn picky.
Here you go! http://www.dynomax.com/soundsofdynomax.php

torque_is_good

it depends on the age of the kids. If they are car seat age then it's a major hassle. My daily driver is a stang and neither that, the 3rd gen or 4th gen are kid friendly. Fortunately I also have other vehicles with 4 wonderful doors that i don't smash my head every time I try to extract baby from the car seat.

UnderCover89TBI

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its weird where these threads go sometimes..carseats and how they are a pain in the butt in a sports car...haha

torque_is_good

are you trying to imply that those of us older fellows tend to let our minds wander??????? You don't have to imply that at all......it's true

jsleeper81

My two are both in booster seats I think is what you cal them they get in on there own now and my oldest puts her on belt on and off my youngest is not quite there, I told my wife even if we got her one we would still keep the truck for family things.
that car would mainly for her to drive every day to work in back now I took her a while back and she sat in a 2001 transam ws6 she fell in love with it but there was two problems she had she ain't comfortable driving a stick and she had a hard time seeing over the hood.
I told her the hood she would get used to since it was mostly her not being able to see the length like she can in the blazer.
I've looked for one in a automatic seems like every one I find is a manual not sure if they made them auto, she knows how to drive one just not good in traffic.
Seems like every time I let her drive a manual she gets a little
throttle happy if you know what I mean
that's funny you say that I remember a joke I heard recently you can have the biggest baddest truck/sport car in the world and be trying to show it off saying, yeah this is a z28/ws6 witha ls6 swap, and that n20 kit in the trunk, Oh! whats that, Thats big bird car seat with the cookie monster steering wheel there.
Its just not as cool lol but its okay cause at least both my girls love fast cars and big truck and sport bikes.

SKELITOR117

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If you have kids and you want a family muscle car, get a dodge magnum R/T. Pulls strong, 340 hp 5.7L Hemi. Pulls like nothing you have ever owned, constant power. LOTS of cargo room. If $ is an issue then get the V6. it's about as fast as your camaro (not kidding, it's actually really nice). 5 seats.

Here's ours. (Dont get upset GM fans, this is genuenly an unbiast opinion of the new mopar)

jsleeper81

I can honestly say those would probably be out of my price range we have always bought our cars cash I'm not sure the cost of those but when we buy a car we normally have between 5-8k to spend we do not like payments.
Hate the idea of someone else holding the title to a car we drive.
And like I said I'm not a big fan of dodge. Chevy and Ford
I know that she likes the charger Which I would consider seeing as it is hers not mine but I know that if anything goes wrong with it I have to fix it and can honestly say I have never touched a dodge other than a neon(Pos)
we will see its going to be a couple years before I get her another car this year she wants something else instead of a car since for the fast 5 years we have bought 4 Cars 1 boat and 1 bike she said she is tired of having so many vehicles so not this year lol.
She says I have to get rid of something, oh well.
Oh, And on the exhaust I was thinking of the flowmaster super 10 I heard some clips on you tube and I like the sound of that What do you guys think.
Don't worry I'm not worried if it is really loud as long as it don't sound like a weed eater I'm fine.

SKELITOR117

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This exhuast kit, or at least the version that fits a 5.0 camaro, is actually a 2.5" Dual, not a single. Huh.

torque_is_good

every time I used to hear that my immediate reply was "OK, how about we start with your mother" I would then run like the wind knowing that the nearest object would be flying toward my head.

torque_is_good

yup, just like the 3 inch systems and systems for 4th gens too. It will be fine and more than adequate. I think the stock pipes were about as big as drinking straws so any improvement will be good. The exh manifolds are really pathetic but you should at least pick up some low end torque with the catback.

Then when you are ready, you find the hedman shorty's and y pipe on sale and the whole thing then bolts together.

SKELITOR117

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Hooker headers has some performace shorty syle header for $165. I think those should work just fine with this cheap A$$ exhaust

jsleeper81

I don't dare temp that I'm not that brave. lol

jsleeper81

I saw a set of those I believe on jegs it was actually the next thing I was thinking about getting after I have done the rest of my exhaust.
I'm sure headers to tail pipe would sound much better anyways

SKELITOR117

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They are great for the price. Although i hear the quality isn't as good as the expensive ones. But i'm not puting them a a Lambo, they are going on a 20 year old chevy. And not the best one at that

jsleeper81

well quality is a big thing too me I alway though if you going to do something do it right the first time so you don't have to do it twice.
Now saying that has made me think I think I'm going to hold off and order some headers first and put them up till I have the money to order everything else I'm going to set it up for a bigger motor only difference is I think I might have to do something to get a bit more back pressure for the 305 not sure yet maybe someone can chime in to tell me yes or no
I am thinking hooker header and since I hear it is hard to run true duals and keep ground clearance I will go with single 3" pipes super flo cat not sure which and the magnaflow bit pricey but after hearing a lot of sound clips I like that the most.
I just don't know if that is to little back pressure for the little 305.
I will be getting sbc's to put on while I'm under the car might as well do that as well since those are relatively cheap and it will be a big plus.
I was trying to think cheap at first and don't want to wind up with something that sound horrible and would not be something I would want in the future.
I can say one thing though I wish money was unlimited not just for me but for all of us here I've been scouring through jegs and summit and let me tell you if I could I would get it all lol.
Modding cars is way to much fun for some of us and to exp. as well

SKELITOR117

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Hay guys, that coupon code works for the exhaust. went from $195.99 to $185.99