Formula 350 vs. 300 ZX
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Formula 350 vs. 300 ZX
How would an 89 formula 350 with headers, 3 inch cat-back and 2.77 ratio do against a completely stock 1991 Nissan 300 ZX with a naturally aspirated 3.0 V6 -222HP/198 ft/lbs? I know my formula produces a lot more tourqe, but I have heard these Nissan's are very quick. Both cars are also very heavy too.
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I'll post the rule again.
If there is a version from the factory with a turbo, but you're racing the model without the turbo, that car sucks ***** and you will win. If you lose, cancel all your parts orders for your car, and get a new one.
If there is a version from the factory with a turbo, but you're racing the model without the turbo, that car sucks ***** and you will win. If you lose, cancel all your parts orders for your car, and get a new one.
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thanks stu! well put
yes you will crush one
stock twin turbo would be a closer race tho if your L98 is in good condition
i ran a stealth twin turbo and hung ahead of him till top of 2nd where i blew 3rd/4th gear clutches and it wouldnt shift. it was about even the whole way from the 30ish roll
yes you will crush one
stock twin turbo would be a closer race tho if your L98 is in good condition
i ran a stealth twin turbo and hung ahead of him till top of 2nd where i blew 3rd/4th gear clutches and it wouldnt shift. it was about even the whole way from the 30ish roll
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Stealth/3kGT TT cars were a different car from the 300ZX altogether..
on another note, I had no problem with a stock 3kgt when my 97 only had a CAI/catback.
on another note, I had no problem with a stock 3kgt when my 97 only had a CAI/catback.
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Originally Posted by urbanhunter44
Stealth/3kGT TT cars were a different car from the 300ZX altogether..
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Should pose no threat to you. If it were a turbo of course but N/A. Go get him. It should make you look good!!!
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Yea, I actually just raced my brother in law's 91 300ZX N/A with my 92 305TBI..stoplight to stoplight...
Wasnt a dramatic win, but still got him, ...
Oh and fly89gta, I know its probably been around for a long time, but I'm still new and your sig cracks me up everytime...
Wasnt a dramatic win, but still got him, ...
Oh and fly89gta, I know its probably been around for a long time, but I'm still new and your sig cracks me up everytime...
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i have driven a couple of them. my 305 feels like it would beat it. u should have no problem at all
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Originally Posted by redcamaro1989
i have driven a couple of them. my 305 feels like it would beat it. u should have no problem at all
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Car: 1989 Formula 350
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Friend of mine (88 Formula 350 headers, SLP runners) toyed with a TT 3kgt from 55 to about 120 I watched it. The 3k was trying to get away and my buddie was on his *** jumpin the throttle IT WAS GREAT TO WATCH!!!
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Originally Posted by fly89gta
No offense but you're LO3 isn't beating a 350Z unless you have some major work done to it.
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Originally Posted by Johns1989irocz
i believe the car in question is a 300zx not a 350z
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A guy I know has a 300Z, its quick but not too quick, only the turbocharged ones are much to worry about, especially since you have a 350TPI, I'm not so sure a 305TBI could beat it stock unless the Z's driver sucked, but with mods its possible. I know my car wouldnt be too far behind my friend's Z, if at all. Off the line you should kill him. Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought the Zs were non turbo, and the ZXs were turbo, like the old 280s were, but I'm not sure.
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Yea,
This was most definetly NOT the turbo version... and I also think it needed a good tune, he had just got it, ran kinda rough
This was most definetly NOT the turbo version... and I also think it needed a good tune, he had just got it, ran kinda rough
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Car: Red 1991 Camaro RS
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Originally Posted by stu
There was a both a non-turbo, and turbo version of both 280Z and the 300ZX.
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Originally Posted by 89TPI350
How would an 89 formula 350 with headers, 3 inch cat-back and 2.77 ratio do against a completely stock 1991 Nissan 300 ZX with a naturally aspirated 3.0 V6 -222HP/198 ft/lbs? I know my formula produces a lot more tourqe, but I have heard these Nissan's are very quick. Both cars are also very heavy too.
LOOK AT THE ATTHCH FILES
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Well, I'm pretty certain all of them 90+ were badged 300ZX... otherwise it had a "Twin Turbo" badge on the rear pass side...
His was a T-Top car and I really liked it, really nice car...
You know what... I wonder if those leather seats would fit our cars
His was a T-Top car and I really liked it, really nice car...
You know what... I wonder if those leather seats would fit our cars
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Originally Posted by 89TPI350
How would an 89 formula 350 with headers, 3 inch cat-back and 2.77 ratio do against a completely stock 1991 Nissan 300 ZX with a naturally aspirated 3.0 V6 -222HP/198 ft/lbs? I know my formula produces a lot more tourqe, but I have heard these Nissan's are very quick. Both cars are also very heavy too.
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Sorry, the guy I know only has a Z in his window but I had'nt realized it was just an after production decal. I thought they were like the 280Zs and 280ZXs, but I was wrong.
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dont even worry about it i raced a 91 300zx a while back and it was ugly for him, a well tuned l98 is still a fast car on the street. The one i raced i beat by 1 1/2 cars so i whouldnt sweat this one
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Originally Posted by stu
There was a both a non-turbo, and turbo version of both 280Z and the 300ZX.
the 240 also came turbo where the car is a domestic right?
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Originally Posted by 91 Z28
MY FRIND HAS ONE MY 91 Z28 LT1 5.7L BET HIS YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROMBLE GOOD LUCK LET ME KNOW WHAT HAPPEN
LOOK AT THE ATTHCH FILES
LOOK AT THE ATTHCH FILES
sorry that is just what the caps with the non descriptive picture screams
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Originally Posted by banditfirebird
You should have this. The peformnace of a N/A 300ZX is about equal to the performance of a LO3 powered f-body. The non-turbos were never made for speed, kind of like the V6 mustangs and camaros/firebirds.
LO3 is the tbi right? if that's the case the N/A 300zx in stock form should walk a tbi equiped car and be more along the lines of the tpi car (lb9 right?)
sorry can't keep my designations straight sometimes
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Originally Posted by sasser43
The datsun's?
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Originally Posted by stu
There was no such thing as a Datsun 240 (that I know of) the 240 came after it was Nissan.
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Okay, but that's still a completely different car.
That's funny, because now that I think about it, I know a guy with a Turbo 240 that looks like that. He just swapped the motor from a turbo 280 because the 240's never came with a turbo.
That's funny, because now that I think about it, I know a guy with a Turbo 240 that looks like that. He just swapped the motor from a turbo 280 because the 240's never came with a turbo.
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Yea my friends dad has like 2 of the datsuns.
Dont they call them fairladies or something like that in Japan? Or is that just special ones?
Dont they call them fairladies or something like that in Japan? Or is that just special ones?
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Originally Posted by stu
No. He's talking about the Nissan Silvias in Japan. There was no such thing as a Datsun 240 (that I know of) the 240 came after it was Nissan.
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On the Datsun / Nissan Z cars:
Company Name: Datsun
Year...............Name.......Engine
70 - 73...........240Z.......2.4 I6 Cyl / Carb
74..................260Z.......2.6 I6 Cyl / Carb
75 - 78...........280Z.......2.8 I6 Cyl / EFI
79 - 83...........280ZX.....2.8 I6 Cyl / EFI / Turbo Available in 81 - 83
Name Change to Nissan
84 - 89...........300ZX.....3.0 V6 / EFI / Turbo Available
90 - 96...........300ZX.....(Different Body Style) / 3.0 V6 / EFI / Twin Turbo Available
03 - 06...........350Z.......3.5 V6 / EFI
An L98 should be able to handle all of these cars (stock) except for the 90 - 96 TT and the 03 - 06 car.
Company Name: Datsun
Year...............Name.......Engine
70 - 73...........240Z.......2.4 I6 Cyl / Carb
74..................260Z.......2.6 I6 Cyl / Carb
75 - 78...........280Z.......2.8 I6 Cyl / EFI
79 - 83...........280ZX.....2.8 I6 Cyl / EFI / Turbo Available in 81 - 83
Name Change to Nissan
84 - 89...........300ZX.....3.0 V6 / EFI / Turbo Available
90 - 96...........300ZX.....(Different Body Style) / 3.0 V6 / EFI / Twin Turbo Available
03 - 06...........350Z.......3.5 V6 / EFI
An L98 should be able to handle all of these cars (stock) except for the 90 - 96 TT and the 03 - 06 car.
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Originally Posted by sasser43
btw stu, remember those pics you showed me of the sylvias a while back? well i saw one the other day riding through town and i was wondering if they are allowed to be brought over here or was it just a conversion. I noticed it looked like it was missing and emblem on the front, if theres one between the hood and bumper, because the gap just looked empty looking. And the taillights looked like the sylvia.
Skylines were not allowed in the U.S but that never stop people from bringing them. If you know the right people you can get anything shipped!
I beat a non-turbo 300zx on my 305tpi easy VERY EASY! Just as easy as beating a non-turbo 3000GT. An you got a 350 no contest anyway stop talking about it and just race him already.
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Originally Posted by sasser43
btw stu, remember those pics you showed me of the sylvias a while back? well i saw one the other day riding through town and i was wondering if they are allowed to be brought over here or was it just a conversion. I noticed it looked like it was missing and emblem on the front, if theres one between the hood and bumper, because the gap just looked empty looking. And the taillights looked like the sylvia.
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Originally Posted by Ed Z28 350
On the Datsun / Nissan Z cars:
Company Name: Datsun
Year...............Name.......Engine
70 - 73...........240Z.......2.4 I6 Cyl / Carb
74..................260Z.......2.6 I6 Cyl / Carb
75 - 78...........280Z.......2.8 I6 Cyl / EFI
79 - 83...........280ZX.....2.8 I6 Cyl / EFI / Turbo Available in 81 - 83
Name Change to Nissan
84 - 89...........300ZX.....3.0 V6 / EFI / Turbo Available
90 - 96...........300ZX.....(Different Body Style) / 3.0 V6 / EFI / Twin Turbo Available
03 - 06...........350Z.......3.5 V6 / EFI
An L98 should be able to handle all of these cars (stock) except for the 90 - 96 TT and the 03 - 06 car.
Company Name: Datsun
Year...............Name.......Engine
70 - 73...........240Z.......2.4 I6 Cyl / Carb
74..................260Z.......2.6 I6 Cyl / Carb
75 - 78...........280Z.......2.8 I6 Cyl / EFI
79 - 83...........280ZX.....2.8 I6 Cyl / EFI / Turbo Available in 81 - 83
Name Change to Nissan
84 - 89...........300ZX.....3.0 V6 / EFI / Turbo Available
90 - 96...........300ZX.....(Different Body Style) / 3.0 V6 / EFI / Twin Turbo Available
03 - 06...........350Z.......3.5 V6 / EFI
An L98 should be able to handle all of these cars (stock) except for the 90 - 96 TT and the 03 - 06 car.
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your forgetting a few of them. there is the 200z if I remember right and I know there is a 180z
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The difference between the Z and ZX is just a performance option I believe. Not nessesarily a turbo. My father had a really nice looking 280ZX and it did not come with the Turbo...as a matter of fact, the Turbo cars actually had the emblems 280ZXTurbo on them instead of just 280ZX like my fathers.
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Originally Posted by Ed Z28 350
I'm speaking of US market models of the Z car only. There was at one point a US market 200SX, but that is a different car.
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