The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
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Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
I picked up another 3rd gen, 1987 Pontiac Firebird FORMULA 350 
First look:


Got it running pretty quick with a new Fuel pump:

then the 700R4 came out for a rebuild and stall convertor:


Got it too pass emissions, on the road and some new/used ROH Snypers



The heater core decided to puke all over the interior, so that was a fun replacement
I've just been cleaning the interior and replacing a bunch of broken Radio / HVAC / Shifter plate / Console parts, as it was broken into for the stereo, and they must have used a sledge hammer !
I've been driving it around town and to work quite a bit, much more fun than my P/U
~DaVe

First look:


Got it running pretty quick with a new Fuel pump:

then the 700R4 came out for a rebuild and stall convertor:


Got it too pass emissions, on the road and some new/used ROH Snypers



The heater core decided to puke all over the interior, so that was a fun replacement

I've just been cleaning the interior and replacing a bunch of broken Radio / HVAC / Shifter plate / Console parts, as it was broken into for the stereo, and they must have used a sledge hammer !

I've been driving it around town and to work quite a bit, much more fun than my P/U

~DaVe
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
Nice!
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
Thanks guys !
Plan for now is just keep repairing the small things ... still needs a HVAC / radio bezel and maybe a new pod, seats are in pretty rough shape, some small under-hood items like leaky vacuum lines, etc.
And of course original red paint and most of the original decals
Also picked up a set of Eibach prokit rear springs, and need to find matching fronts.
Even stayed in the garage for a minute
~DaVe
Plan for now is just keep repairing the small things ... still needs a HVAC / radio bezel and maybe a new pod, seats are in pretty rough shape, some small under-hood items like leaky vacuum lines, etc.
And of course original red paint and most of the original decals
Also picked up a set of Eibach prokit rear springs, and need to find matching fronts.
Even stayed in the garage for a minute

~DaVe
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
Well I took the red dragon to a local AutoX as my '82 was still a couple hours from being ready (oil change, etc.) ... I didn't like it after 5 of 8 runs it decided to not run, had to pull the driveshaft and rope tow it 4-5 miles home 

Symptoms:
Starts very briefly and dies almost instantly
Can hear the fuel pump running / priming
Oil pressure gauge reads pressure so I don't think that's shutting it off
Time to get a fuel pressure gauge on it, and have the ignition module tested (suspect)
~DaVe

Symptoms:
Starts very briefly and dies almost instantly
Can hear the fuel pump running / priming
Oil pressure gauge reads pressure so I don't think that's shutting it off
Time to get a fuel pressure gauge on it, and have the ignition module tested (suspect)
~DaVe
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
I would agree with ignition or ECU issues too if it has good fuel pressure at the rails. It could also be low pressure from the pump.
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Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
New Wells SU-145 should be here Friday ... Really hoping it's the final "repair" / part needed as it has become frustrating !
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
i have vogtland front springs, new in the box from founders performance, ill sell them to you. i kind of did the opposite, i had the pro kits on the front of my Z and the vogtlands on the rear. if your interested ill cross the part numbers and make sure its all good.
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
i have vogtland front springs, new in the box from founders performance, ill sell them to you. i kind of did the opposite, i had the pro kits on the front of my Z and the vogtlands on the rear. if your interested ill cross the part numbers and make sure its all good.
... Car funds are hard to come by (too many projects) ... But it sits like a 4x4 !~DaVe
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
Hell yes I did !

The Red Dragon doesn't get a lot of love, between other projects but heres a few random things:
TPI nameplate and airfoil, worth 4–6 hp
and if you believe that I also have a bridge for sale!
Snypers back on after winter:


due to a radio thief
... New radio / HVAC "pod" & trim plate, stereo mount kit, rewired the old deck, new hidden antenna so I can eliminate the broken external power antenna on the fender:
And test fit of some new seats !!!


~DaVe
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
This guy is the only person I know that does a burnout in his driveway while pointing at the house. You are either very skillful or very drunk.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350
Well I haven't hit any of my other things yet, .. BUT I do burnouts pretty often 
~DaVe

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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
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