IROCThe5.7L

Kind of a lame race, but I thought I’d share. I was always under the impression the WRX's didn't have BOV's, or very quiet ones. But anyway, he pulls next to me at 45 mph, revs, and I could actually here a BOV go "Pshhhhhhhh". He also had an exhaust.

I hear him go WOT, and I pull about a half car right away, then he gains a little, and then stops pulling, and he is at the back of my door until 75-80. Then my V1 went off, so I slowed down ASAP. I thought it was a pretty fun race. The tight ones are the best.

Slave One

Arent those guys also AWD??

How much HP do they have?

IROCThe5.7L

Yes, AWD. I believe they are 230 stock.

F&Ybodlover

Rice tastes good. but it must have been a pre 04 Model.(227hp)04+ WRX's have over 300hp, and MT ran 13.2@105. They are faster than an L98 at the stoplights.

HotTA

Nice kill man.

rx7speed

thats the WRX sti.

kinda like the vette and the vette z06, or firebird vs a transam or camaro vs the z28

84z28350

My buddys got a WRX, take a wild guess what his blowoff cost...

$800ca!!

Yea, holy crap, but it sounds hella mean.

Gone driving with him a bit and it feels like a pretty fast car but i dont see how their much better than a 3rd gen other than the AWD.

The impreza WRX sedan weighs in at 3100lb which isnt much less than a 3rd gen (depending if its fully loaded) and its only putting out 230/235 which any mild 350 can easily achieve.

But a STI could smoke any mild 350 no problem, 300/300 bone stock at 3300lb. Theirs only one STI in town, i hope he hasnt got anything aftermarket



BTW, i bet your dads never going to let you live it down that his ford beat you

rx7speed

well isn't that the job of the dad to keep their sons in line?

looks like he did his job

CrazyHawaiian

The thing about those AWD cars (both Evo and WRX) is they can launch good but only if the owners are down to pound the car that hard. Alot of those guys don't want to be messing up their car so they aren't gonna launch as hard. I've had run in's with WRX in my 91 Z w/ stock L98 and a S/C @ 6psi, it was complete murder in all aspects (from stop and freeway roll @ 60mph). The guy asked me "what you got in that thing" with big eyes and I told him I was running a V6. hahahaha. I wasn't proud of that win anyway, I dont consider my car fast and he was probably stock while I had mods.

stu

Your friend's BOV did NOT cost $800. Sorry.

84z28350

he says $800 and thats canaduck bucks.

so about 300us

stu

Oh, $300 US? Was it solid Gold? Make fun of your friend for me.

84z28350

I dont know, he says its some sort of fancy new design and all that BS...

Im not much of a fan for r!ce so i have no clue on that crap.

But were not here to debate what my buddy did or didnt pay for his BOV, lets get this thread back on topic...

GTATransAM

A friend down in florida had a blue WRX that i got in. He showed me his power, and those things sure do take off. But good kill!

stu

It's funny that he got sucked into all that jazz when a BOV doesn't make you faster. It also doesn't have anything to do with where the car is made either.


But alas, good kill.

25thmustang

So a WRX is rice??? What foreign car isnt rice?

Manic Z

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You have to admit that the WRX is catering to the 'rice' crowd. Only difference is it actually had the cajones to back it up. You probably won't see a 35 year old buy one. But then again.................

urbanhunter44

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is it the STi or the EVO that has the hideous (albeit functional) wing?

F&Ybodlover

Japanese= rice period! Although NSX's, 350Z's etc aren't as ***** (wow, I didn't know R I C E Y was a 4 letter word) as the Hondas' with the fart pipes.

hot92z

There are alot of WRXs running around my area but I havent had the chance to run one stoplight to stoplight. Who knows I might stand a chance.

I saw an EVO a few days back though...I better stay away from that.

IROCThe5.7L

Yea, was just the first time I ever heard a BOV that loud on a WRX.

urbanhunter44

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imo r!ce involves rediculous unpainted body kits, fart cans and large tachometers.. if it's a stock japanese car I don't see how it's r!ce.

25thmustang

Oh boy....

Welcome to 2006, where we arent racist (which is where the term rice came from) and we respect any fast car. A WRX which looks stock is not what we call rice, but a Camaro with a loud muffler, and a ton of cheesy mods is... Again, welcome, and stay a while. You will learn what is what as time passes!

ThirdGenLS1

anything can be fast all you need is knowlege and money. Lack one or the other and you will fail. Anyways i believe rice to be anything that looks outrages and has no power.

Some guys here fail to come to the understanding that to A LOT of STOCK cars (including your so called "ricers") out today view us as nothing but a poor third gen.

Justin

Blu91Z28

I haven't run into many decent WRX's. I had a go on the highway with a cat-backed car and walked pretty easily. My best race was a STi from a dig. He got me by a car out of the hole and stayed that way until we shut down. I'd love to run him again with my new converter and trans rebuild.

stu

Both. Along with the Integra Type R, Toyota Supra, Dodge Neon SRT-4, I can't think of any more at the moment.

F&Ybodlover

I was being a little

Formula350Scott

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Ri-ce isnt the car, its the owner. They can make anything look stupid.

Also I hate WRXs and STIs. No one bought subarus until they made those cars. Its so stupid when people wont buy something that doesnt already come with a turbo, and then they replace every turbo part on it anyway. They also put in standalone ecus too so its not to have factory turbo programming. A guy around here already pulled a good running motor just to put better pistons and rods in so its not cause they have low compression pistons everytime either. Why not make the car you like fast instead of liking the car cause its fast. Oh well I guess i just like sleepers. Like my friends 93 dodge daytona v6 with an m90 supercharger. Enough of my rant.

ThirdGenLS1

Well its no different then buying a camaro then pulling it replace the motor with somthing bigger and better.

stu

Try putting a turbo kit on a car that doesn't come with one from the factory and you'll see why. This whole comment is really weird. I'm having a very difficult time understanding your reasoning.

Oh yeah, people have been buying Subaru's for a LONG time before either of those cars hit the market. I guess you don't see it as much considering I heard that Colorado sells more Subarus alone than all other states combined. (Although I find that very hard to believe).

rx7speed

I see little subbies all the time. mostly their little wagons but hey it works.

84z28350

haha, yes i know not all imports are r!ce. But i call them as i see them.

If it includes a ridiculusly loud BOV, 6" tailpipe and a wing big enough to lift a 747 jet. i classify it a r!cer...

fly89gta

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Maybe OUR generation didn't buy Suburu's until they were fast but they've always had decent sales.

Also, why did you buy a Formula 350???? Why not find one with a LO3 is you're so righteous.

TRAXION

WRXs are really slow ... REALLY slow. I have the right to say that since I owned an 11s thirdgen and currently a 12s STI I consider my STI sorta peppy ... with about 300 at the wheels (yea, I have some mods).

Concerning other stuff in this post ...
I've owned a subaru as my daily driver for a long time. It's not like an STI came along and I jumped on the bandwagon. Furthermore, calling me r1cer would just be stupid. Take a look at the thirdgen I built. How many other STOCK BLOCK thirdgens have run mid 11's at full weight naturally aspirated.

... oh yea, I'm still running the stock ECU in my STI, albeit with a custom tune by myself. Mmmmm, nothing like running 80lb injectors and 20psi!

t

fly89gta

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Yeah you *****!! Get lost!!!

rx7speed

I've seen something like that once. it looked like one of those midgets that race on dirt kinda except it was setup more for auto-x.


those are ricers as well?

Orr89RocZ

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to those that are ignorant about the different styles of racing and setups for those vehicles, then yes.... they are.

hihighost

A "*****" is not determined by the car, but the attitude of the driver. One who owns a ***** insists that a cheap collection of tricks, stickers, lowering springs, and unecessary lighting will make their car fast, and behaves accordingly.

Foreign cars are not ricers. Foreign cars just happen to be purchased more frequently by *****-making drivers. Any single Camaro, and any single American car can be riced out just as much as a Honda.

Foreign cars are just as fast and reliable and nice looking as any American made car. It's the driver that makes the car.

rx7speed

so I'm safe with my 76 honda accord then? it's not rice? woot woot I'm cool.

hihighost

All clear.

CrazyHawaiian

Exactly, I dont know why so many people dont get this. Rice isn't a mod, its not a part, its not something physical. Rice is an attitude. When people don't know what they're doing and actually believe a body kit or wing will make them gain power (as an example) thats rice. All these things most people consider rice, a bodykit, a wing, an exhaust, thats personal style. Like an opinion, there is no right or wrong with personal style, people either have the same tastes or they don't. It becomes rice when the owner has the "*****" attitude that the wing adds 10hp or the lights make the car faster (both of which, of course, are completely retarded). If you need proof, look into something called Spo-Com. Alot of people in the USA with imports are influenced by the JDM style. Well, in Japan its the exact opposite. They see the styles people are doing over here (which alot of people consider rice) and they are influenced by the American style, thats called Spo-Com. Its just a style. So in Japan you might have some guy with a 600whp car decide to get into Spo-Com and he'll put on altezza taillights and underbody neons. This dosn't make him a ***** because he is doing it for the style. If they thought the lights added power then it would be rice, but thats not the case. Here in the USA the same thing can be said for the JDM style. People can be going for a certain style because they personally like that style, that dosnt make them a *****. In any event, you don't know if someone is a ***** unless you talk to them. To make the generalizations based on looks is a stereotype.

25thmustang

At least a good amount of people here know what rice is or isnt. People who call every Asain or even foreign car rice, obviousely dont realize that rice has changed over the years. There are a lot of quality, well done, fast foreign cars that are labelled as rice because of ignorance.

stu

The worst part is all of the people who actually believe that someone exists who thinks that cosmetics add hp. That's just a stereo type created by people who hate r<i>cers. I've NEVER met someone who actually believes that, because that person just doesn't exist.

hihighost

I always come on these boards and everyone talks about really fast cars driving around their cities. I live about .5 miles north of Boston, and there are approximately zero cars here that are fast whatsoever. I own 1 out of 3 camaros in my city, the fastest being a stock L98. I have yet to see a 5.0 mustang other than the one that's falling apart down at the bottom of my street. Most newer mustangs are all V6's. The fastest car in my city might just be an SRT-8 Charger. Every car in this city that has a loud exhaust tone either has a fart can or the owner has poked a hole in the muffler. Modifications are inexistant. Being a high school student I know plenty of kids who truly believe that non-performance related mods make a car faster, such as a bodykit, lowering springs, and a hole in your muffler or extenstion to your exaust pipe.

I'm sure many different cities are really diverse, but for some reason, whether it's the fact that my city isn't of much money and most of it's occupants are immigrants with little education, people truly stretch their cheap cosmetics into how it increases performance. People like that certainly exist, they kinda just become that way because comsetics are more often cheap and they manipulate that concept to their favor because they can't really spend money on actual performance modifications.

rx7speed

one thing about the fart can I would like to say. with imports your choices are fairly limited for a lot of them. I've taken time to look around at a few exhaust not even just for my car just looking in general and just about everything you find is that fart cannon with the huge tip. so when your choices are somewhat limited you can't always blame the owner for that

sasser43

Both do. The EVO isn't quite as bad since it doesnt go in at the bottom like the STi. But i actually like the wings on them.

stu

Yes you can. I had a 2.5" exhaust from my turbo back, with a 2.5" straight through muffler, and a 2.5" resonator on my car. It was just 6" round muffler with no tip that was supposed to be mounted sideways (like stock) and exit in just a pipe, you wouldn't even be able to tell it was aftermarket. EXCEPT the dumbass who installed it on the car put the muffler pointing straight out (like the fart cannons) and put a 4" tip on the car (instead of just the 2.5" pipe) without asking me. It looked so stupid and I was pissed. I think that was the only thing that ever got me a race though, since you couldn't tell my car was turbo otherwise.
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I've got a sweet link to the highest horsepower EVO I've seen yet, but I'm saving it for the next time someone comments on how weak imports are.

Orr89RocZ

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agreed, i havent met one yet. i met ppl who think some mods are giving them abit more hp than it would have but thats about it.

lol.. 988awhp

stu

Correct. Have you seen the video of the shake down runs? I guess he's still doing a 10.5 after being all over the track and having to take his foot off the gas a bunch. I saw the video, but I don't know where the guy got a 10.5 from, I can't see anything.

sasser43

Not sure why this was quoted to me but ive heard about that thing, just never seen it. I wanna see it launch though and its 0-60 time.