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Old 02-11-2008, 06:33 PM
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2007 GT vs 383 HSR

My neighbor has been talking smack to me and all I can get from him is that its a S/C GT Stang with full exhaust. I know if I cant cut my ET to my goal of 12.00 I have no chance of taking this guy. He claims he has 500 fwhp...but i have never seen a dyno. Arent those things alot heavier than our cars??
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Re: 2007 GT vs 383 HSR

if its the gt500, its got 450whp i belive, atleast thats what the top gear guys got w/ one on a mustang dyno...
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Re: 2007 GT vs 383 HSR

.... its a S/C GT Stang....

Does S/C = supercharged? Not C/S for California Special, correct?


He claims he has 500 fwhp....

fwhp? Front wheel horsepower?? It is possible to get 475 rwhp with an intercooled Whipple with the stock 3.375" blower pulley. There are smaller pullies....


if its the gt500, its got 450whp i belive....

The GT500 is factory rated at 500hp. The '07s make around 420-425 rwhp stock. The '08 is rated the same as the '07 but they are making 440-445 rwhp.
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He claims he has 500 fwhp....

fwhp? Front wheel horsepower?? It is possible to get 475 rwhp with an intercooled Whipple with the stock 3.375" blower pulley. There are smaller pullies....
i believe he meant FLYWHEEL hp. at least i hope he did

89formula... whats your best mph with your combo so far?
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My friends blown 07 GT pulls very hard. Me and my other friend were in his GT500 and raced the S/Ced GT and he walked slowely on us.
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I currently own a intercooled Whippled '05 GT (5-speed) and a stock GT500. Although the cars share the same body style, each feels uniquely different so it's hard to make a true comparison BUT I'll try. The '05 GT feels like it pulls a little harder.

Flywheel, okay..... The intercooled Whipple kit advertises 500 hp.

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if its the gt500, its got 450whp i belive, atleast thats what the top gear guys got w/ one on a mustang dyno...
its not the gt 500
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Originally Posted by tpivette89
i believe he meant FLYWHEEL hp. at least i hope he did

89formula... whats your best mph with your combo so far?
yes it was flywheel horsepower.....my best et so far has only been 107 with s10 converter and stock 323 gears
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what do the gt500's run since Ford underwent the retro look? mid 12's?

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Mid to upper 12s on average, a good driver could put it in the lower 12s, but the mph will be significantly higher than 107 which is where he will get you.
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Mid to upper 12s on average, a good driver could put it in the lower 12s, but the mph will be significantly higher than 107 which is where he will get you.
hopefully the 3600 stall will change that 107 mph to more of 110-112 mph.....
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Re: 2007 GT vs 383 HSR

you should have more in that car than 107mph. i think you need some tuning work and then hurry up and put that bigger cam in there.


as your car sits, i think he's gonna get you depending on the boost he's running and his kit. I do believe there is one at my track that was cutting mid 12's at 110-112 mph.

a vortec blown 04 GT was there doing 11.70's at 116... he had some boost in that car and is abit lighter than the 05+ gt's.
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107mph was with the s10 converter remember? it flashed around 2300-2400 which isnt crap
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yeah you may gain alittle with the bigger converter but i dont think it will be much more than 2 mph or so.

cuz with a 1.7 60 foot or a 2.0, i still trap the same and a converter generally just helps ET and mph doesnt change a whole lot. sometimes it will decrease mph
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edelbrock TES headers and single 3" catback the problem for the low mph?
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i would think you have some power to gain with longtubes and bigger catback.
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you have shorty headers on a 383? arent the edelcraps only 1 5/8" as well? your without a doubt leaving a huge amount of power on the table with that exhaust setup. definately get some long tubes with 1 3/4" primarys and a larger catback (although id run cutouts behind the longtubes and just bypass whatever catback you have when you go to the track). youd probably see 3 - 4 mph with an exhaust swap

where is stafford VA? i want to run one of those new blown Stangs in my Vette but i cant find on around here. id run him for you if youre semi close

25th, what does a GT500 pull mph wise?
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i heard the GT500 is on par with the C6 vette... about 114 mph in the 1/4, which is only a few mph faster than the old cobra/ terminator
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Which C6? the old LS2 or the new LS3?

114mph huh? thats what i trapped in my Vette untuned. havent had a chance to run it now that its tuned (Cecil opens in late Feb) but id expect it to do a bit better

i figured itd be a good race... now i gotta find one. however, the chances of ANY GT500 running stock boost tho is probably slim to none!
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114-115 sounds about right, but with a CAI and tune your approaching 120 fast!
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Re: 2007 GT vs 383 HSR

In the FL heat, my friend's 100% stock 07' GT500 made 406 RW, trapped 109. CAI & tune, 480 RW - 12.20's @ 118+ w/ drag radials.

Another local 07' did 423 RW with more miles, 505 w/ CAI & tune. 13.30's @ 110 stock, 12.00's @ 119-120 modded. Both cars are on par with the rest I see at the track in Orlando.
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you have shorty headers on a 383? arent the edelcraps only 1 5/8" as well? your without a doubt leaving a huge amount of power on the table with that exhaust setup. definately get some long tubes with 1 3/4" primarys and a larger catback (although id run cutouts behind the longtubes and just bypass whatever catback you have when you go to the track). youd probably see 3 - 4 mph with an exhaust swap

where is stafford VA? i want to run one of those new blown Stangs in my Vette but i cant find on around here. id run him for you if youre semi close

25th, what does a GT500 pull mph wise?
Stafford is about an hour to an hour and a half south of Washington DC.

I thought about doing the cutouts and not even trying to do the true duals or single 3.5" catback for cost reasons, but I cant find a mechanic that would pass me with cutouts on there.
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Which C6? the old LS2 or the new LS3?
yeah i ment LS2. LS3 is abit faster still
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