my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
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my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
my car in sig and his car is bone but a flow master. who would win? oh yea for the time being till i have the money my car is one wheel peel or before track opens back.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
im liking the ls1 for this one
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
what about if i put a posi back in it?
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
If you don't have a posi, you're wasting your time. With one, I say it's too close to call..
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
at my home track, an bone stock auto ls1 trans am on drag radials runs 12.70 dial in..
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
1998's were slower, and drag radials can make a big difference...
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
is the trans am a WS6? auto or stick? what gears are you running with the open diff?
your not too far from me so avg height above sea level is about the same. a couple of my friends have LS1 T/A's (98 and 02) and they run low 13's with full exhaust and CAI. id say that if its not a WS6 and you can hook up well, you will win from a stop but from a roll the LS1 will get you.
your not too far from me so avg height above sea level is about the same. a couple of my friends have LS1 T/A's (98 and 02) and they run low 13's with full exhaust and CAI. id say that if its not a WS6 and you can hook up well, you will win from a stop but from a roll the LS1 will get you.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
is the trans am a WS6? auto or stick? what gears are you running with the open diff?
your not too far from me so avg height above sea level is about the same. a couple of my friends have LS1 T/A's (98 and 02) and they run low 13's with full exhaust and CAI. id say that if its not a WS6 and you can hook up well, you will win from a stop but from a roll the LS1 will get you.
your not too far from me so avg height above sea level is about the same. a couple of my friends have LS1 T/A's (98 and 02) and they run low 13's with full exhaust and CAI. id say that if its not a WS6 and you can hook up well, you will win from a stop but from a roll the LS1 will get you.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
Unless it's a factory freak you'll have this one. Contrary to popular believe not every LS1 runs 12's from the factory
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
fwiw, my friend with the 98 T/A is a non WS6 auto car. first time at the track he ran a 14.4. after 3.42 gears, CAI, and pacesetter LT's to an X-pipe, he cut it down to a 13.2. my other friend with an 02 WS6 T/A with CAI, pacesetter LT's to an SLP Loudmouth catback, and 3.23 gears runs consistent 13.1's. i think he may have pulled a 13 flat or a 12.9 on a really good day with cold weather.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
well if you can consistently cut that 12.9x in your sig, i would put my money on you. the non WS6 LS1 T/A's have 2.73 gears which is what i think will give you the edge...
fwiw, my friend with the 98 T/A is a non WS6 auto car. first time at the track he ran a 14.4. after 3.42 gears, CAI, and pacesetter LT's to an X-pipe, he cut it down to a 13.2. my other friend with an 02 WS6 T/A with CAI, pacesetter LT's to an SLP Loudmouth catback, and 3.23 gears runs consistent 13.1's. i think he may have pulled a 13 flat or a 12.9 on a really good day with cold weather.
fwiw, my friend with the 98 T/A is a non WS6 auto car. first time at the track he ran a 14.4. after 3.42 gears, CAI, and pacesetter LT's to an X-pipe, he cut it down to a 13.2. my other friend with an 02 WS6 T/A with CAI, pacesetter LT's to an SLP Loudmouth catback, and 3.23 gears runs consistent 13.1's. i think he may have pulled a 13 flat or a 12.9 on a really good day with cold weather.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
With your E.T., it would honestly be a drivers race. a 12.9 is about the limit to a Stock MANUAL LS1 in my opinion.(everyone here is going to tell you a different time that LS1's can run stock, and im NOT saying everyone else is wrong either) But if i had to lay down my bet, Id give the W to the LS1 because IMHO, Its got newer efficent technology and a better geared Tranny.
However if you ran your posted 12.9 quarter time with an Open Diff, You would take the Win with your Posi installed, cause i know your prolly gettin wheel spin bad with them 4.10 gears. But hey who knows??? alot of it is how you drive your car and if u can get that launch.
However if you ran your posted 12.9 quarter time with an Open Diff, You would take the Win with your Posi installed, cause i know your prolly gettin wheel spin bad with them 4.10 gears. But hey who knows??? alot of it is how you drive your car and if u can get that launch.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
true but most of the friday cars still trap at least what hes trapping. If he comes on a tire, its gonna be a drivers race.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
hey ls cars with a standard driver is a 13 sec car contrary to popular beleif..... notice he said dead stock with a slowmaster muffler....
if you ran your best of a 12.9 with an open it will be dead even should be drivers race for sure.
i'd get me a posi and d/r should pull you a low 12 then i'd bet lol.
if you ran your best of a 12.9 with an open it will be dead even should be drivers race for sure.
i'd get me a posi and d/r should pull you a low 12 then i'd bet lol.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
All i can say is get it on film, it will be a close one.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
hey ls cars with a standard driver is a 13 sec car contrary to popular beleif..... notice he said dead stock with a slowmaster muffler....
if you ran your best of a 12.9 with an open it will be dead even should be drivers race for sure.
i'd get me a posi and d/r should pull you a low 12 then i'd bet lol.
if you ran your best of a 12.9 with an open it will be dead even should be drivers race for sure.
i'd get me a posi and d/r should pull you a low 12 then i'd bet lol.
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I would give you the win. The 98 LS1 is a strong car but like someone else said on here they got stronger with the revised cam, intake, and actually differences in the block. The LS1s are great cars and with normal drivers they are pulling higher 13s but a good driver will get it in the mid-low 13s no problem, and with drag radials they have been known to dip 12s without any issues at all.
It will be close but I am taking you for the win. LSX cars come in to their own when you get closer to triple digits. That is when they take off.
Good luck and get it on film. Should be one hell of a race!
It will be close but I am taking you for the win. LSX cars come in to their own when you get closer to triple digits. That is when they take off.
Good luck and get it on film. Should be one hell of a race!
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what mods are on the ls1? my friend has 00 TA auto with a lid and a cutout and drag radials and he cut a 13.2 @103mph. this was 68 feet above sea level. and my car while it was stock besides slp lid and k&n filter ran a 13.32 @ 108mph with a 2.24 60' and this was my first car with a manual. From the looks from ur sig, u will edge him out in the 1/4 mile but the ls will eventually pull u on top. make sure to video tape the race
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what mods are on the ls1? my friend has 00 TA auto with a lid and a cutout and drag radials and he cut a 13.2 @103mph. this was 68 feet above sea level. and my car while it was stock besides slp lid and k&n filter ran a 13.32 @ 108mph with a 2.24 60' and this was my first car with a manual. From the looks from ur sig, u will edge him out in the 1/4 mile but the ls will eventually pull u on top. make sure to video tape the race
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
I know I know the one thats in front when you get to the finish line...naaa I would say you should prob win but thats why we race
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SS/z28/ws6/ really doesnt make that much difference power wise. If he runs you on street tires i hand you the win. However basing off what an average auto ls1 traps, you put a tire on it and it will be a close race and i would expect the ls1 to pull you up top
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
Lot of misinformation about LS1s in this thread. Nevertheless, if you are pulling the times in your sig, I think you may have this one.
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With your trap speed in your signature, it should be about even going across the traps, but it looks like you can 60' better than most bonestock street tire 98's. You should have him as long as you get that posi fixed. Of course if it has 2.73's, your at an advantage already. Good luck! Tell him he needs a pair of Drag Radials and a 3600 stall to dip into the 12s!
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With your trap speed in your signature, it should be about even going across the traps, but it looks like you can 60' better than most bonestock street tire 98's. You should have him as long as you get that posi fixed. Of course if it has 2.73's, your at an advantage already. Good luck! Tell him he needs a pair of Drag Radials and a 3600 stall to dip into the 12s!
i agree to an extent. they trap the same and obviously his car hooks pretty well so he SHOULD have the advantage. However, i dont agree the ls1 car would need a huge converter to "dip" into the 12s. We took a stock ls1 car and with a good hook and a converter of that size and it went 12.25s all day @109 on a 1.6 60'. Bfg drag radials at that.
I have also seen a exhaust only 00 b4c with 160k miles on a good hook go 12.80@111 with the stock converter. same bfg drag radials.
NOW i do agree that the margin of ls1 cars that run 12s out of the box is slim, but they are out there. My exhaust only SS on a 2.2 60' went 13.18@109 and on a tire that couldve easily been 12.70s or so. But around here the slow ls1 friday cars still trap around 104-105 area in an auto and a couple mph faster with a t56.
obviously the leave is where this race will be won, or lost.
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i agree to an extent. they trap the same and obviously his car hooks pretty well so he SHOULD have the advantage. However, i dont agree the ls1 car would need a huge converter to "dip" into the 12s. We took a stock ls1 car and with a good hook and a converter of that size and it went 12.25s all day @109 on a 1.6 60'. Bfg drag radials at that.
I have also seen a exhaust only 00 b4c with 160k miles on a good hook go 12.80@111 with the stock converter. same bfg drag radials.
NOW i do agree that the margin of ls1 cars that run 12s out of the box is slim, but they are out there. My exhaust only SS on a 2.2 60' went 13.18@109 and on a tire that couldve easily been 12.70s or so. But around here the slow ls1 friday cars still trap around 104-105 area in an auto and a couple mph faster with a t56.
obviously the leave is where this race will be won, or lost.
I have also seen a exhaust only 00 b4c with 160k miles on a good hook go 12.80@111 with the stock converter. same bfg drag radials.
NOW i do agree that the margin of ls1 cars that run 12s out of the box is slim, but they are out there. My exhaust only SS on a 2.2 60' went 13.18@109 and on a tire that couldve easily been 12.70s or so. But around here the slow ls1 friday cars still trap around 104-105 area in an auto and a couple mph faster with a t56.
obviously the leave is where this race will be won, or lost.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
agreed, but just lowering the 60 foot times on these cars and its a good possibility that you can "dip" into the 12s with no converter at all
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
only if you get some traction. we have people at the local track launching from 4k all day long, all they do is light up the tires and run mid 13's to 14's.
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If I race any LS1 f-bodys I hope its from a dig
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
dead even at the 1/4 mi mark. but he pull on me hard after that. my car is in need of a tune up been driving it to work. oh and he add slp lid to his car.
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Re: my car vs. 98 ls1 trans am
changed the plugs car was still running bad. number 8 plug was fouled. so check spark frist thing and find my problem number 8 spark plug wire stop firing. i changed it and it fixed it.
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