AJ_92RS

The reason I ask is last night, my son and I were headed home from K-Mart. I was in the far right lane and needed to get in the left. I was side-by-side with a 88-89 LX 5.0L. Light changed, and I got on it to try and get into the left lane. I didn't make it the first try cause the guy thought I was just draggin' with him. We got up to the next light and this time I HAD to get over. Light changed and I floored it. I took him by a full car length is just over an 1/8 mile, and got over no problem. I could hear that his was an auto and it wasn't even spinning the tires as much as my car was. Plus you could hear it reving it's little valves like hell.

Here's the best part though!!!! I was in my wife's car. A 1995 Monte Carlo LS. It's got the 160 horse 3100 V6. I thought for sure he would've blown me away. The only thing I've done to the Monte is a K&N replacement filter, and an $18 turbo flow muffler from Farm & Fleet . I've seen other Stangs like that run low 15's to high 14's at the track. This guy must have needed a tune-up or something.

About a week ago, I had the same episode with a Porshe Boxster. He took me by a car length in about a 1/4 mile. I knew those cars weren't made to be tire burners, but the guy just bought it. He still had the orange tag in the front window. I must have hurt his feelings. I mean he just spent about $60K on a car and a 95 Monte kept up with him. That's gotta hurt.

I always felt like the Monte was a little quicker than my Camaro, but now I gotta take it to the track just to find out. Anybody run a 95-97 Monte w/3100 V6 at the track or on a G-Tech or something? Just curious.

Edit: Just had to add my best times at the track w/Camaro. 16.99et. with a binding throttle cable, and before these mods below.
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[This message has been edited by AJ_92RS (edited June 17, 2001).]

20-psi

It was probably a 4 or 6 cylinder because most of the V8's run in the 14's stock and some like mine with a few mods (heads, cam, intake) run 11.64 at 117 on motor and in teh 10's with spray. My stock 93 conv gt ran a best of 13.87 at 97 mph.

Pete

AJ_92RS

But it had the 5.0 symbol on the side, and trust me, I know the sound of a V8.

Jer82Z28

what year was it? the earlier and mid 80's mustangs were not very fast at all, mid to low 15's, even slower if they have that crappy AOD. and like you said, the car's state of tune should be considered. A friend of mine has beaten a few 5.0 mustangs in his 17 second ranger. none of them looked very well taken care of.

rezinn

That car must have been a real beater, an LX mustang can easily run 14s. I think a 3100v6 will run 16s stock, and the 3800v6 might dip into the 15s.

90Iroc-Zee

HAHAHAHAHAHA A 14 second stock AOD 5.0 Mustang!? ROFL. Omg, that cracks me up, a 5spd notchback would be the only car i could see running mid 14's EVER and a 5 spd hatch running a mere 14.9 on a good day.

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1990 G92 5spd LB9 - 3.42

Accel Ignition/Wires (8.8mm), Advanced Timing, TB Bypass, Ported and Gasket Matched Plenum, Synthetic Motor Oil, 160 Thermo, TPIS Airfoil, K&N Air Filters, Centerforce I Pressure Plate and Clutch

14.4 @ 94mph w/2.0622 60ft

Soon To Come

Edelbrock TES Headers, No Cats, Edelbrock RPM Series Catback, AFPR, Underdrive Pulleys, Short Throw Shifter, Intake, Cam

6-0 Against Rustangs = )

SUPER-SPORT-CHEVY

No, I totaly agree mustangs are slow. Yes there are fast ones but there are also fast geo metros.
Generaly though if its a 5.0 lx it should be a 5 speed, Ive never personaly seen an 5.0 lx auto "not to say that fNorD never made them, I just never seen one."
I dont know why people here say man my 305 cant beat Rustangs im sure at the mustang board there saying "man my 302 cant beat them damn 3rd gen 305's" .
I fear no mustang!!!!!!!
SSC

20-psi

Since you live in Ill, you should have come down to St Louis for the World Ford Challenge and saw some fast mustangs. I was there and my car went 11.76 at 117 in the Pure Street class. The fastest PS car went 10.95 at 122.

The really funny thing is that all you guys think that any mustangs are slow but doing the same mods like the ones you are doing, can make most mustangs faster than most 3rd gens. I have timeslips to prove what my car do but I know that you won't believe me. I have mustang/ford that don't believe how fast my car is. I just have a good working combination. And maybe you can have one too if you get a mustang or TTA.

Pete

dudelovett

I'll agree with Pete here...the only real thirdgens that pose a threat to a 5.0 Stang are the 5.7's and TTA's and how many of those do you see around?

AJ_92RS

Well I talked to a mechanic at work today and he said that the auto's in the 88-94 Stangs (and this was not an older Mustang, I know the diff) are like the Powerglides w/OD. They got a real high first gear (low numerically) and they are dogs off the line. He said that if we would have gone farther down the road, that he would've taken me. He said they did that due to tire spin, you know, trying to prevent it.

BTW, I never said that 305 TBI's are quicker than Mustangs. All I told was just what I experienced. And again, I was in my wife's 95 Monte, not my car.

And what about the Porshe? How do you explain that? 1st, I was wrong about the price. They cost about $45K new. But we went about a 1/2 mile and he couldn't loose me. That just don't seem right. It just ain't right. Anybody know?

scott90-50

My friends aod 130,000 notch ran a 14.59 at 95 2 weeks ago at Rockingham. It's only got free mods and a 2.73 rear end.
The Aod mustang only needs better gears and a converter and free mods to run low 14's.
1st gear in an AOD is 2.40, 2nd is 1.47 and 3rd is 1.00.

87-88 5spd speed density low optioned trunks have run into the 13's stock with a good driver. Later cars can run in the lower 14's stock. Don't base your opinions on some clowns who can't drive or can't keep their cars in good shape.

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1990 5.0 AOD lx
best on old combo
13.65 at 104.57
347 stroker coming
1984 camaro z-28 stock and slow
1982 mazda rx-7, 350 swap in the works.
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89GTA5spd

I think in general the fuel injected fox body mustangs respond better to modifacations than the tuned port cars do. At the track I have seen 5.0's run high 15's more than a few times.. so they aren't all 13-14 second cars stock. I always laugh when I see posts like "I beet a modified 5.0 in my stock 92 RS auto!". Hell, I beat a '99 Cobra at the track (with all recall work done) in my basically stock 305 GTA (timeslips don't lie) and my computer was pulling timing because of the knock sensor! That doesn't mean my car is faster though, the guy just was an awful driver.

90Iroc-Zee

Haha, not at all, dood I haven't lost to one mustang, don't say that only 5.7's can challenge mustangs because I'm all stock and I run with my friends 97 Cobra w/straight pipes.

Plus, mustangs respond better to mods? Sure if you take the 88 single cat 305 TPI AT with like 195 horse, but if you get a G92 like mine with a 5spd I beat the hell outta 96+ GT's. Plus I don't have the peanut cam in my car and im sure my manifold robbed me of some power and my exhaust should be done today before the fast and furious. And guess who else is going to the movies? My friends 97 Cobra. So this is what I did to my car to make it run low 14's, full exhaust, and not even all the free mods. I had ram air when I ran my car last time so I'm sure to drop a mph or so but my car lost 20-30lbs in weight from the manifold and my car is gonna be able to flow a lot better and the cam should be at full potential. Not to dis mustangs because I love dem Notchbacks (only mustang I would buy w/5spd) but don't say that the only cars that can run w/stangs are the 5.7's. And a notchback w/5spd w/an awesome driver cannot hit 13's. Maybe a corrected time but never IRL. Their weight is what makes them go faster than the other stangs and 13's? Your kidding yourself, no doubt it can run maybe 14.2 - 14.3 or slower stock with a good driver but not 13's, lets not take 230hp in the 13's okay? It takes a bit more ballz than just that unless your running gears/driveshaft/suspension components.

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1990 G92 5spd LB9 - 3.42

Accel Ignition/Wires (8.8mm), Advanced Timing, TB Bypass, Ported and Gasket Matched Plenum, Synthetic Motor Oil, 160 Thermo, TPIS Airfoil, K&N Air Filters, Centerforce I Pressure Plate and Clutch, Edelbrock TES Headers, Dual Cats, Edelbrock RPM Series Catback

14.4 @ 94mph w/2.0622 60ft

Soon To Come

AFPR, Underdrive Pulleys, Short Throw Shifter, Intake, Cam

6-0 Against Rustangs = )

RW91B4C is there anyway I can contact you? We have the same cars with almost the same times, it could be good to give some good tips to eachother

dudelovett

Hmmmm.....are you sure your friend has a Cobra and not a GT?

I personally think a Cobra would crush you....those things have 305 hp, the GT only had 215 hp.

And yes, I think your car could beat a STOCK Mustang, but a Mustang with the same mods will beat you (unless it has the AOD tranny)

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AJ_92RS

Sorry, but I never gave any opinions. Why do you people get such attitudes. I ONLY STATED WHAT I EXPERIANCED THAT DAY!!!!!!! DAMN!! You'd think this is a damn Mustang site from all the defensive a$$ people. I even stated that this guy must have needed a tune-up or something. Hell!!! My Monte will probably beat MY Camaro. And what about the Boxster. Anyone know? Any of you die hard Mustang lovers know? Or are you all too busy trying to find out more tricks to beat Camaros? I owned a Mustang once (don't tell anyone). Why the F*ck do you think I own a Chevy, and have owned 13 other Chevys since then? RELIABILITY!! INEXPENSIVE!!! AND MUCH MORE RACE READY!!!! And I'm not talking about just drag racing. How many IROC Mustangs have you seen? How many in NASCAR? Does FORD have anything that will match a Corvette? Yea, a Mustang built by another guy. Hell, they gotta build up a hi-po pickup just to make themselves feel like a good auto manufacture.
And don't even try asking why Chevy can't compete with Mustang sales. It's because the Mustang is more "practical for daily use". Maybe for women!!!! A Mustang is a car, but a Chevy is a performer. I guess I'll keep my impractical car and know that it's ready for more than "go fast and straight." I'll be able to turn and stop to.

EDIT: BTW, there's my damn opinion for ya. Too bad it's all based on facts, otherwise you might have an argument for me. TOO BAD, SO SAD!!!!!

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85_ZED28

AMEN, AJ!!

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Red interior
K&N Chrome Element and Filter
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Chrome Edelbrock Valve Covers

Zoxo

I am not at all a Ford fan but my buddy has a 5.0 LX notchback with the minor regular mods (exhaust, pulleys, etc) and he can pull his front wheels off the ground when he launches. He also ran a 14.00 on crappy tires with little traction.

Dumperbird

I've seen someone out there with a joke... Why did ford put rear defrosters in thier mustangs?

So you have something to keep your hands warm when you push it home in the cold.

90% of ALL fords are on the road today!

10% made it home.

Look, I have friends w/ stangs. They might also be faster but we are talkin the fox bodies. I can spank a 4.7 gt. Put it over my knee! The 94+ 5.0's arn't even much hassel. I'm runnin a mostly stock 305ho. The mods are't here yet. (heads, cam, headers, intake) But once I bolt my shi+ on, I'm takin the seleans out, boss can bite me, and whatever.

BTW AJ,
you gave the Cobra R (we even close?) more credit than it was due. It doesn't even rate near the Z0-6. Wasn't the only car that kept up to it a Porshe 911 turbo? Christ.

AJ, wear your bowtie my man!

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BuckeyeROC

Well, I have experience driving only one Mustang. My friend has a 92 5.0 5-speed GT, I actually drove the thing just a few hours ago. It has an aftermarket intake, 3.55 gears, headers, and some cooling system mods. I raced him last night and also a few weeks ago w/ my 89 IROC w/ 350tpi, 2.77 gears, and the basic mods in my sig. (NOT the mods being shipped, they aren't even here yet). I get him by 3-4 car lengths from 0-60 everytime and it's ALL over by then. He let me drive it today and it doesn't quite have the ***** that my IROC has, even w/ the better gears. Not to say that all 5.0's are like that, I've heard them being mid 14's stock, but I believe his to be in the very high 14's w/ his basic mods so far.

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89 IROC 350 TPI, 700R4, 2.77 9-bolt w/ full exhaust, some bolt-ons, and free mods-G-Tech timed 14.8 @ 96 w/ terrible tires...Parts currently being shipped: AFR 190's, SuperRam, LPE 219/219 cam, Vigilante TQ converter, a "beefed up" 3.42 10-bolt, and some Spohn suspension parts

karstenkurtz

A perfect example of what mustangs can do my buddy has an 88 LX coupe with a flowmaster exhaust, aluminum driveshaft, all the little free mods, a BUILT 5 speed tranny (can't remeber the brand but it is one of the top t5 trannys with all the bells and whistles) and his best time is a 14.5 on street tires. The 88 LX coupe is supposed to be the fastest of that generation stang. He can drive it pretty damn good too. Do those same mods to a 88 IROC-Z 5.7 auto and you would smoke his *** and probably run a 14.0 or so. The mustangs and the camaros are very close either way which is what I like about them. They wouldn't be considered our main competition if our cars weren't always neck and neck. Oh yeah he also has headers but I think they came stock on the 88 LX?

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86 IROC-ZZ4... too much to list.

scott90-50

What's with this YOU PEOPLE bullsh!t? I am making a general statement that was not aimed at a particular person. If you cannot handle this I suggest that you get therapy for your obvious insecurity problem. What part of my statement had an additude? Appears that you are the only one here with one.



He clown, check the sig. I also have a 84 z-28 with an lg-4. Why don't you read 1st before shooting off your mouth?



Either it was a 4cyl with 5.0 badges (I have seen many!!!) or he wasn't racing. Don't tell me about your awesome 3.1 either. I have a 3.1 pontiac grand prix and a 3.3 160 hp wagon that only weighs 3,000 lbs and have drag raced both of them. Both were nearly a second slower in the 1/8th mile than the slowest stock stang there. Hell, my lg-4 is even faster than either of them and it has a poorly running engine and an exaust leak.



Already taken down 3 ls-1 camaros and a ton of 3rd gens. Trying to make my slow *** 3rd gen catch up with the stang.



So your trying to tell me that a 3rd gen with it's 10 bolt and finicky electronics is more race ready than a 5spd low option lx 5.0 with an 8.8 that can handle slicks and EEC-IV computer that canreadily accept mods without reprogramming unlike the GM setups? Please stop smoking crack.



real brilliant statement sherlock considering that nascar cars don't even resemble a real car, and by the way, I have never seen an f-body in nascar (someone correct me if I'm wrong) Your statement is akin to me proclaiming how great the taurus is because of the string of victories the body style had when they started using the 4 door platform in nascar. Give me a fu<king break.



Ford is going to make the cobra compete with the vette because the f-car is taking a dirt nap.



Typical brainwashed brand loyal dipsh!t mentality. I guess the bullitt mustang, new mach I, 105 mph stock cobra and new iterations of the stang don't count? Apparently they are doing something right with the f-car dying a slow death.




People like the stang because it can actually be used as a car. The new f-car is too big, too wide and looks like a caryover from the 70's. I like my 3rd gen better thank you. I guess a cobra that can run 13.4's stock at 105 and well into the 12's with just gears and DR's is a woman's car, unlike that he man 305 tbi of yours




Most of your argument is based on stupidity, not facts. Apparently the only "facts" you know are the ones that you pulled out of your *** .

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1990 5.0 AOD lx
best on old combo
13.65 at 104.57
347 stroker coming
1984 camaro z-28 stock and slow
1982 mazda rx-7, 350 swap in the works.
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scott90-50

by the way, If you don't think that an older 5.0 could hit 13's stock how about telling that to Bob Cosby. Also my friends 70,000 mile stock 96 cobra hit an 8.91 at 82 last wednesday on a 700 foot track with high temps and humidity (1/8th mile). They are tricky beasts to learn to drive correctly. His 1st runs ever in the car he ran mid 10's (1/8th) before learning to drive it.

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1990 5.0 AOD lx
best on old combo
13.65 at 104.57
347 stroker coming
1984 camaro z-28 stock and slow
1982 mazda rx-7, 350 swap in the works.
superstangs messageboard

scott90-50

and just so everyone knows I like all types of cars. I am on my 3rd f-body right now. I have owned numerous GM products throughout the years and have 8 vehicles as of this writing.

1990 ford mustang 5.0 lx
1984 camaro z-28
1982 mazda rx-7
1984 chevy s-10 4x4 with 2.8
1989 pontiac grand prix with 3.1
1992 olds cierra wagon with 3.3 160 hp
1988 pontiac grand prix SE 2.8
1990 pontiac grand prix parts car

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1990 5.0 AOD lx
best on old combo
13.65 at 104.57
347 stroker coming
1984 camaro z-28 stock and slow
1982 mazda rx-7, 350 swap in the works.
North Carolina Third Gen Association

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AJ_92RS

I'm so sorry scott90-50. I didn't mean to hurt your little feelings. I guess I should have wrote "MOST of you people". Do you need a hanky? I wasn't trying to make you mad.

As stated by me before, that is MY OPINION!!!!!!!! DIPSH!T!!!!!! And it is based on facts!!!!

And yes, I do have a case of brand loyalty!!!! Just like I'm a racist pig too. But that's my right as an American!!! And my right to speak about it!!!! Obviously your not loyal to a brand. That's fine for you, but not me. Welcome to a free country!!!! Dipsh!t!!!!!

And I never said that the 13 Chevys I've had were the only cars I've had. I'm gald to hear that you've had other cars to Scott. And again, that's your right as an American!!!!

I never once said that my Monte was awesome, fast, or great!!! By me stating that it could probably beat my car was a statment that my car is slow, not that the Monte is super fast. And why are you comparing the GT to my RS. I was referring to the platforms of the cars. A Camaro is a much more RACE ready car, and not just drag racing.

You've taken too many of my vague statements and turned them into specific statements that sound the way that you want them to. You need to learn to read the content of the material that you are reading, as well as objects of the paragraphs.

BTW, now I need a hanky cause you hurt my feelings by calling me stupid. Golly, all this time those 134 IQ test scores were wrong!! Just because I like Chevrolet and not Fords, I guess that just makes me an idiot, huh? Guess I'll go buy a Mustang tomorrow so then I'll be smart like you!!!!

And I think I said this before, but I can't remember cause I'm so stupid, so I'll say it again. DIPSH!T!!!!!!