Transmissions and Drivetrain Need help with your trans? Problems with your axle?

Change out rear end?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-28-2006, 12:21 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Zeikjds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Trans Am/1993 Trans Am
Engine: 305 .030 over built/ LT1 Bolt Ons
Transmission: t5/700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.43 Posi/3.23 Posi
Change out rear end?

So what would be the easiest way to change my rear to either 3.43 posi disc or 3.73 posi disc? I know how to pull the rear from the car but is there specifics i should stay with? like 9 bolt or 10 bolt and whats the diff in 9,10 and 12?
Old 08-28-2006, 12:39 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

 
Randy82WS7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: 62656
Posts: 4,812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
9 bolt was the borg warner rear

10 bolt is the 7.5 and 7.625

12 bolt never came in these cars and was gone after '72 in cars and '80 in trucks

there was a dana 44 under a few of these cars i have heard

a direct fit axle- from a third or fourth gen f body is what to use

3.42 and 3.73 posi are common under these cars, especially in the 84 85 86 years, see them all the time

good luck
Old 08-28-2006, 12:48 PM
  #3  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Zeikjds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Trans Am/1993 Trans Am
Engine: 305 .030 over built/ LT1 Bolt Ons
Transmission: t5/700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.43 Posi/3.23 Posi
How do i tell if i get an axle at a junk yard, ya turn a tire and if the other side goes same way its a posi, what about gears?
Old 08-28-2006, 12:52 PM
  #4  
Moderator

 
Apeiron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Posts: 20,981
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
The only way to know what's inside it, whether you're worried about posi or gears, is to take the cover off and actually look.
Old 08-28-2006, 01:27 PM
  #5  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Zeikjds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Trans Am/1993 Trans Am
Engine: 305 .030 over built/ LT1 Bolt Ons
Transmission: t5/700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.43 Posi/3.23 Posi
Thats the only way to check the gears???
Old 08-28-2006, 02:04 PM
  #6  
Moderator

 
Apeiron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Posts: 20,981
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
The only way to check with any certainty.

You might also want to know additional trivial little details like are the gears damaged at all, which you'll only find out if you actually look inside.
Old 08-29-2006, 10:20 PM
  #7  
Junior Member

 
redlinemuscle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
here's how to tell:
1)rotate the wheel one full turn (use the valve stem as a guide)
2)count the turns of the pinion or driveshaft
3)if the driveshaft turns 3-1/4 turns it's a 3.25:1 rear
3-3/4 turns- 3.73
2-3/4 -probably the 2.79
3-1/2 - probably the 3.42 (or if it's the 9 bolt - 3.45)
etc, etc.
Old 08-29-2006, 10:43 PM
  #8  
Moderator

 
Apeiron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Posts: 20,981
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
Yeah, but you're still buying a pig in a poke. You don't know if you're buying a bunch of broken teeth and shavings.
Old 08-30-2006, 12:30 AM
  #9  
TGO Supporter

 
Air_Adam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Posts: 9,067
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Dana 44 was an over the counter deal, unless you bought a Firehawk from SLP.

The 9-bolt is the strongest of the 3rdgen rear ends (rare Danas aside) but are still far from bulletproof. The 10-bolt would be a better choice, because they are much easier to find parts for than the 9-bolt, and the 9-bolt isn't stronger by a whole lot.
Old 08-30-2006, 08:10 AM
  #10  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Posts: 4,337
Received 55 Likes on 41 Posts
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
First off... How much $ are you looking at spending? Lets start at square one.
Old 08-30-2006, 03:16 PM
  #11  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Zeikjds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Trans Am/1993 Trans Am
Engine: 305 .030 over built/ LT1 Bolt Ons
Transmission: t5/700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.43 Posi/3.23 Posi
Just looking at grabbing one from a junk yard!
Old 08-30-2006, 09:31 PM
  #12  
Member
 
street_carnage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 89 GTA
Engine: 5.7L
you always have the option of gutting yours out and putting a posi carrier and new gears in. that way you'll know exactly what you have. i know its obvious but its always an option
Old 08-30-2006, 10:07 PM
  #13  
Junior Member
 
redhotl1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i got a factory 10 bolt 3:73 at the shop with disc brakes mounts if your interested e-mail me and i`ll let you know if my partner hasn`t sold it and how much it will be
Old 08-31-2006, 06:27 AM
  #14  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Posts: 4,337
Received 55 Likes on 41 Posts
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
if you are looking at jusnkyard prices, then stick to the yards and hope for the best. If you are not gonna open it up and see what you get, then there is not much anyone can do for you. Just dive in an cross your fingers.... or you could just open it up...

The next best thing would be new gears, but then istalling them would run you some more $....

Let us know what you end up goin' with.
Old 09-01-2006, 07:46 PM
  #15  
Junior Member
 
3rdhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You also have different size carriers
Old 09-01-2006, 10:13 PM
  #16  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Zeikjds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Trans Am/1993 Trans Am
Engine: 305 .030 over built/ LT1 Bolt Ons
Transmission: t5/700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.43 Posi/3.23 Posi
goin to look at junk yard tomorrow and checkin if anyone has a cheap one here
Old 09-05-2006, 04:35 PM
  #17  
Junior Member
 
redhotl1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
it is a posi and i need $500.00 plus shipping i pm`ed you
Old 09-05-2006, 04:44 PM
  #18  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (5)
 
xpndbl3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Orland Park, IL
Posts: 13,622
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: SLOW carbed ls
Transmission: TH400 with brake, 8" PTC converter
Axle/Gears: moser 9" 4.11
$500 for a 10 bolt. that's insane. I wouldn't pay more than $200 for one of these rearends ever.
Old 09-05-2006, 05:32 PM
  #19  
Junior Member
 
redhotl1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
this is a 3:73 rear end posi hard to find from what i understand and this rear caomes with rotors and caliber just needs refreshing up
Old 09-05-2006, 05:51 PM
  #20  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Zeikjds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Trans Am/1993 Trans Am
Engine: 305 .030 over built/ LT1 Bolt Ons
Transmission: t5/700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.43 Posi/3.23 Posi
found crap at junk yard and for 500,no.
Old 09-05-2006, 06:42 PM
  #21  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (5)
 
xpndbl3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Orland Park, IL
Posts: 13,622
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: SLOW carbed ls
Transmission: TH400 with brake, 8" PTC converter
Axle/Gears: moser 9" 4.11
Originally Posted by redhotl1
this is a 3:73 rear end posi hard to find from what i understand and this rear caomes with rotors and caliber just needs refreshing up
so did almost every Z28 or T/A from 84-87 that was carb'd, most 5 speeds got this rear end too. In fact the 9 bolts which were posi and had disc brakes don't even go for more than $400 TOPS and those are much stronger than the 10 bolt ever could be. Swap out the price to $200 and it might sell. 4th gen rear ends with bigger brakes on them only go for $250 all day.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hectre13
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
2
12-11-2023 08:14 AM
hectre13
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
7
08-26-2015 08:17 AM
AkDrifted
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
6
08-17-2015 07:45 PM
Jlanz55
Transmissions and Drivetrain
3
08-17-2015 07:15 AM
BlackBoulder
Suspension and Chassis
2
08-11-2015 11:15 PM



Quick Reply: Change out rear end?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:04 AM.