Change out rear end?
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From: Colorado
Car: 1986 Trans Am/1993 Trans Am
Engine: 305 .030 over built/ LT1 Bolt Ons
Transmission: t5/700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.43 Posi/3.23 Posi
Change out rear end?
So what would be the easiest way to change my rear to either 3.43 posi disc or 3.73 posi disc? I know how to pull the rear from the car but is there specifics i should stay with? like 9 bolt or 10 bolt and whats the diff in 9,10 and 12?
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Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
9 bolt was the borg warner rear
10 bolt is the 7.5 and 7.625
12 bolt never came in these cars and was gone after '72 in cars and '80 in trucks
there was a dana 44 under a few of these cars i have heard
a direct fit axle- from a third or fourth gen f body is what to use
3.42 and 3.73 posi are common under these cars, especially in the 84 85 86 years, see them all the time
good luck
10 bolt is the 7.5 and 7.625
12 bolt never came in these cars and was gone after '72 in cars and '80 in trucks
there was a dana 44 under a few of these cars i have heard
a direct fit axle- from a third or fourth gen f body is what to use
3.42 and 3.73 posi are common under these cars, especially in the 84 85 86 years, see them all the time
good luck
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From: Colorado
Car: 1986 Trans Am/1993 Trans Am
Engine: 305 .030 over built/ LT1 Bolt Ons
Transmission: t5/700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.43 Posi/3.23 Posi
How do i tell if i get an axle at a junk yard, ya turn a tire and if the other side goes same way its a posi, what about gears?
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
The only way to know what's inside it, whether you're worried about posi or gears, is to take the cover off and actually look.
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
The only way to check with any certainty.
You might also want to know additional trivial little details like are the gears damaged at all, which you'll only find out if you actually look inside.
You might also want to know additional trivial little details like are the gears damaged at all, which you'll only find out if you actually look inside.
here's how to tell:
1)rotate the wheel one full turn (use the valve stem as a guide)
2)count the turns of the pinion or driveshaft
3)if the driveshaft turns 3-1/4 turns it's a 3.25:1 rear
3-3/4 turns- 3.73
2-3/4 -probably the 2.79
3-1/2 - probably the 3.42 (or if it's the 9 bolt - 3.45)
etc, etc.
1)rotate the wheel one full turn (use the valve stem as a guide)
2)count the turns of the pinion or driveshaft
3)if the driveshaft turns 3-1/4 turns it's a 3.25:1 rear
3-3/4 turns- 3.73
2-3/4 -probably the 2.79
3-1/2 - probably the 3.42 (or if it's the 9 bolt - 3.45)
etc, etc.
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
Yeah, but you're still buying a pig in a poke. You don't know if you're buying a bunch of broken teeth and shavings.
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From: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Dana 44 was an over the counter deal, unless you bought a Firehawk from SLP.
The 9-bolt is the strongest of the 3rdgen rear ends (rare Danas aside) but are still far from bulletproof. The 10-bolt would be a better choice, because they are much easier to find parts for than the 9-bolt, and the 9-bolt isn't stronger by a whole lot.
The 9-bolt is the strongest of the 3rdgen rear ends (rare Danas aside) but are still far from bulletproof. The 10-bolt would be a better choice, because they are much easier to find parts for than the 9-bolt, and the 9-bolt isn't stronger by a whole lot.
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From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
First off... How much $ are you looking at spending? Lets start at square one.
you always have the option of gutting yours out and putting a posi carrier and new gears in. that way you'll know exactly what you have. i know its obvious but its always an option
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Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
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if you are looking at jusnkyard prices, then stick to the yards and hope for the best. If you are not gonna open it up and see what you get, then there is not much anyone can do for you. Just dive in an cross your fingers.... or you could just open it up...
The next best thing would be new gears, but then istalling them would run you some more $....
Let us know what you end up goin' with.
The next best thing would be new gears, but then istalling them would run you some more $....
Let us know what you end up goin' with.
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From: Colorado
Car: 1986 Trans Am/1993 Trans Am
Engine: 305 .030 over built/ LT1 Bolt Ons
Transmission: t5/700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.43 Posi/3.23 Posi
goin to look at junk yard tomorrow and checkin if anyone has a cheap one here
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From: Orland Park, IL
Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: SLOW carbed ls
Transmission: TH400 with brake, 8" PTC converter
Axle/Gears: moser 9" 4.11
$500 for a 10 bolt. that's insane. I wouldn't pay more than $200 for one of these rearends ever.
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