KED85

While at a friends house, I read an editorial from latest issue of Popular Hot Rodding. The author of the editorial stated that he had solid information of a new 2007 Camaro being offered in 2006. The editorial also said no more Firebirds, tho. YET if demand existed....
AND if ya always wanted that 1969 Camaro, there are new bodies, in steel, being made and already available. See latest issue of Hot Rod magazine for that story.

What's that mean for us 3rd Gen folks?
MORE TOYS FOR PLAYING!!!!!!!
AND
Would you buy either one?

Myself, I alreay have 2 Camaros & one Firebird.
ONLY one Firebird I do seek is the one I used to race in Van Nuys & various other SoCal cruising locations. That 1968 Firebird 400/TH400 went to Canada back in 1982. Yeah I miss it.
NO I do not miss the starters that wouldn't start the 10.5 compression 400, nor those constant broken motor mounts. Damn TORQUE MONSTER 400 mill!

The cost for the repro 1969 Camaro is said to be $12,000 for the "Body in White" convertible only body & about $35,000 for a complete turn key car. New 2007 Camaro, probably in the $20,000 and ascending.

FAST RS

I think i read that article too. I want to say i saw it on this board somewere i think.

KED so in a way your sayin i have your baby except mine with a 455

Do you know any places that do deacent paint jobs for about 500? And slight body work i dont think im going back to the place that did the body work on my car they missed stuff ETC not happy with there quality of work. Also if you know were i can score a trim part. Its the one that goes from the back of the front wheelwell to the font of the back wheel well. ITs about 3 inches high all the way back. The body shop was kind enough to loose it for me. Im also lookin for a set od rear bumper bolts i need 8 i think.

CamaroManBlack

Yep, FastRS, you did; I posted it and a few people demonstrated interest in it before the moderators closed the thread up. What's this about new steel 69 Camaro bodies being built???

FastRS--you have a 68 Firebird with a 455? Is it all together and driving or are you building it?

KED85

Let's toss TECH into this thread, then!
CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NEXT GENERATION 60* V6 powering the new 2007 Camaro?
This engine is ready for viewing at your local Caddy dealer as the base engine in the new Caddy sedan. I forget what name or "letters!". Rumored to have about 200 plus solid horsepower. It's called The World Class V6, now.

Yeah FastRS I do know that piece of trim.
Swap meets! is best bet & yep it's awkward to carry. YET you can also try Memory Lane for a laugh!
Yes my 1968 Firebird did look like yours
No, paint jobs, decent, for $500, are a thing of the past.
After rebuilding houses, I no longer yearn for doing body work. Except swapping panels.
My one "Baby" was my 1966 Corvette roadster, 2 top, 4-speed.

vsixtoy

You need to get in touch with DynoDon on the So.Cal board. He and a few others have and are still currently having cars painted by very reliable friend of theirs in Mexico a stone throw from the border. The guy moved there to cut cost and get around the ever so cumbersome E.P.A.

He did a gorgeous 2 step paint job for Don for $1250 on his Firebird. Guy removed the front and rear bumpercovers, sprayed under the hood, doorjams and did minor body repair. Show quality. That paint job here would run $4000. I have seen it in person (I might add also that I am the head judge for the Covina Thunderfest carshow for the last 5 years).

Don told me the guy does a very admirable 1 step job for half the price- it would beat the pants off of a Macco, or a One-day paint job.

vsixtoy

Ked, Chevy nailed it with that new Camaro design. That is one beautiful car. Resembles the old '67 RS

br()bert

This was brought up and locked already. Not third gen related iirc. Also if chevy has half a brain they wont even put a v6 in th enew camaro.

vsixtoy

Hey brobert- "Newsflash for you"- I have my Camaro BECAUSE its a V6- I don't want a V8 and have passed up a few free offers on tpi V8's even.

The V6 will out handle, out brake, better gas mile(for daily street driving- and long trips without refuelling as often), insurance is less.

Everytime I read something from you is the same B>S>. If the V6 Camaro was not a comodity, then why were so many sold by GM?

So I say again- There are a few of us that actually WANTED ONE I know thats hard for you to swallow- but some of us own multiple cars and like a few that are street friendly.

mykxt202

Is this the story your talking about

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...aro/index.html

SSC

Yep some people like thier V6's and wouldent swap for a free V8 drivetrain. I'm still looking for a V6 car and I would rather cruise it then the V8 bird, fuel aint free! Infact I was looking for a V6 car when I found the 82 at a price I couldent pass up.

So someone going to buy one of those 1st gen bodys and slap a 3.4L in it? Bet It would be the only one on the road.:rockon:

camaro_junkie

How about the ol' 2.8 swapped into the 2007.

z28monster

iTrader: (1)

id bet it would also take it like an hour to move a 1st gen to 60 mph that to me would be pointless man.. why would you degrade a muscle car like that and put a v6 in it?

br()bert

camarors8992

what about all the v6 stangs ... there are more of them then there are v8s why not have a base model v6 camaro and then the high performance v8 model :lala:

br()bert

When you think about it some of those v8 motors were pathetic back then. Some made as much power as a 3.4

Doward

Originally called the 'Sigma Lite' chassis, now known as the Zeta platform, yes, GM is bringing the Camaro in 2007.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/factsheet.htm

There you go.

Personally, I forsee a supercharged or turbocharged '07 Solstice in my future.

z28monster

iTrader: (1)

yes i agree but they also prolly produced a bit more torque then a 3.4... any way im just saying that is totaly wrong to down grade a muscle car and put a v6 in it... yes i know a v6 can be made to me moderatley fast but if you put the same amount of money into a v8 you will alwase get more power out of it.

also i think "Muscle car" and "V6" are two words that should not be used in the same sentance at all.

this is just what i think on the subject guys to each his own im just saying they only put the v6 in the base model camaro for a reason even though i dont think they should have put a 4 cylinder or a v6 in them at all from the factory at all that to me is just wrong.

lol also the words "Camaro" and "V6" dont belong eather

lol ok im done :lala:

Doward

Nothing wrong with a boosted, fuel injected V6, considering they can often make more power, reliably, than a big cube carb'd V8.

Power to weight is the name of the game, doesn't matter WHAT car/engine it is.

With that said, I'd LOVE a '68 Firebird, Sprint 6, and turbo that with some custom fuel injection. First OHC motor that I know of.

camarors8992

am i gonna have to smack a bitch ?

just keep your stupid opinions to yourself...if you knew it would get people angry then why post it


:lala:

camarors8992

and that was towards z28moster



and again another v8 guy talking **** about v6s

z28monster

iTrader: (1)

guys calm down i know what you meen though me coming in here and bashing what you drive again i was just explaining my opinion on the whole v6/camaro subject.... again i am sorry for pissing people off by explaining my opinion.

camarors8992

and i dont give a **** about your opinion...your a ***** **** * ***** for driving a 305 id expect that out of a 350 owner

camarors8992

so go take your 305 and ***** ** ** **** ***

why are you in here...is it because you think your better than everyone because you have a 305 and we have a v6...im sure that there are alot of v6s that with smoke your *** in a race



:lala: v8 ********

z28monster

iTrader: (1)

ok ok man im done in here im not going to argue over bull**** and get banned over something dumb.....

again i am sorry to all of the v6 camaro guys for voicing my opinion on the subject...

cant we all just get along with are love of the thirdgens and be done with it.... it IS normal for different people to have different opinions on things isnt it ?

ok im done enouph said again i am sorry for opening my mouth well typing i guess

Doward

Yo, CamaroRS, down boy! Jezz... the guy doesn't like V6s, ok, whatever, he can have his own opinion.

z28monster doesn't like V6 muscle cars. Big deal. Wait till he runs into an '89 TTA, Regal T Type, Grand National...

Guys, we're all entitled to our own opinions, so let's keep it clean, shall we?

Besides, stock 305 TPI = low 15's. What's the deal? AM91_Camaro's already there.

camarors8992

not if hes gonna come in here acting like hes higher than everyone and then talking trash about v6s

br()bert

z28monster

iTrader: (1)

ok even though this is a big waste of forum space...

i never came in here thinking i was higher then any one else in here. also i highly respect every thirdgen lover in here because they have alot of pride in owning a thirdgen just like do.

i dont want to get off on the wrong foot here guys i do truly respect you all no mater what you have under the hood of your car just as long as its a thirdgen its fine with me.

again if you look up earlyer post of mine you will see that i am not one of those "v8 GUYS" that you think i am. seriosly im not i love this sight and visit it alot and respect every member on this sight highly.

again i am sorry that what i said was taken in a wrong way.

can we call a truce or something?

br()bert

I dont think so. It seems that a n/a motor is going to last longer then a boosted motor also it costs less and is easier to make a ton of power with a large ci motor then it is with a small ci motor that has just about NO performance parts avail.

As far as the rest of the comments about "v6 and muscle car" not going together, take a look at some exotic sports cars that can and will tare your v8 car a new, well you know. Just because its a v8 doesnt mean its a good running, powerful motor. Some v8's were a Joke!

It seems that us v6 and v8 guys can never meet in a middle ground. Seems like the v6 guys are stretching things a bit most of the time and the v8 guys well seem to be a little too hard about some issues.
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Originally posted by Doward


Besides, stock 305 TPI = low 15's. What's the deal? AM91_Camaro's already there.
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STOCK 305 TPI"S "STOCK " being a key word here.

Am is there with a TON of work.

br()bert

Doward

Ok, yeah, you got me there. I'm trying to convince him to put some 8.5:1 cr pistons in there, and run a supercharger.

Yes, a supercharger on a V8 will make more power.. but let's face it, absolute power will only be achieved by a W18, quad turbo, with a nitrous system to spool the turbos.

But hey, we start with what we have, and go from there, right? Us 60º guys are just exploiting a very seldom used powerplant, that everyone has just written off... I can say, after riding in AM91's setup, and my own, I'm positive these guys have much more potential than anyone has bothered with.

We'll see, as soon as the rain stops.

camaro_junkie

Well, I think the problem most V6 guys have with the V8s is they come in here saying the EXACT same thing every time. We only need to hear it once.

With that said, back to the topic at hand. Personally I think putting a V6 in a first gen would be a bit silly, despite how much I love V6s. It was the V8 muscle car heyday. That's just the way it was. Besides I can't imagine those cars being light enough for a good horsepower to weight ratio even with a charged single cam V6.

On the subject of whether or not V6s should be put in camaros from here on... it's about technology. The thirdgen 6 is pretty low on the scale of engine technology except for the fuel injection. I mean I've driven an '88 Porsche 944 turbo with a small 4 and it flies. Basically, if they put the right 6 in the fifthgen, it will be a sweet base model (think about money here people, not everyone can afford the V8 packages).

AM91Camaro_RS

Z28monster, thanks for the trolling. like doward said, i'll run ya. your 305 should run somewhere close to what my N/A 3.1 runs. it COULD be a little faster than my 6 but probably not enough to brag about.

vsixtoy

Brobert-

I made the comment that
1) a Camaro with a V6 in it will out handle a camaro with a V8 in it
2) A V6 Camaro will stop faster than a V8 Camaro

Both of these statement I made above YOU put a "False" after my quotes?

Are you kidding me? News flash again for you- you are clueless.

Please explain "WHY" you make that reference, just claim false. You make a comment, you need to be able to back it.
Brobert- you damn well know I can.

br()bert

Simple, I have had both a v6 and a v8 in my car. I speak from first hand exp not from the v6 OR v8 bandwagon.

Overall my car is a million times better in most every aspect now then it was when i had the v6 in it.

Handling is no different now then it was before when the v6 was in. Although I do need wider tires Very badly!

Gas milage is VERY slightly different. Unless I drive fast on the highway or spin the tires from light to light, then of course it uses more gas then the v6 did.

Stopping. You have upgraded brakes (which look great btw!) I do not so your car most deff would stop better then mine. BUT speaking of just stock brakes with different motors in the same car. I see no difference. My car still stops the same(except for the time my brake line burst on the way home from work )

And as far as handling goes. Motor size has little to do with it. Suspenion work has alot to do with it. Sure your car (the v6 one) turns great and you kick *** at the track BUT you also have a TON of suspenion work. So the handling is related to the suspension not the motor size. Sure a v8 adds a little weight, but it also adds tq and hp.

Also please dont take anything i said the wrong way. You have your opinion I have mine. It would be cool to discuss each one calmly for a change. Maybe "false" was the wrong word to use, maybe "i dont think so" would have been better.

AM91Camaro_RS

the difference in the weight of the engine does make a difference, especially the location of the weight. the v8 is a fair amount heavier and the weight is further forward which affects handling a lot. the v6 cars have nearly a 50/50 weight distribution...that is great for handling. i would GUESS that a v8 car would end up with about 60% (or more) of the weight up front and only about 40% in the back. HP and TQ don't affect handling, other than how hard you can get back on the throttle. i say that last thing because of the, "Sure a v8 adds a little weight, but it also adds tq and hp" statement. tq and hp can be bad for handling (if the driver isn't real good)...makes it easier to bring the rear end around...

back to the subject...i can't wait for these new camaros to come out!!

TechSmurf

Man.......

TechSmurf

6 days ago:
Today:
That, being 100% anti-V6, is bashing/trolling and does not belong on the V6 forum. That's it. It's over. You just don't know when to quit. Strike 3, you're out.

TechSmurf

And you're posting on the V6 board why?

TechSmurf

You're done a little too late.

TechSmurf

This needed to be handled far more maturely.

TechSmurf

Oh boy... I guess the V8 folks that are gonna get reamed should take some comfort knowing there's V6 folks that'll be getting similar treatment.

TechSmurf

All of this flamage going on... multiple people going to have action taken against them... and the worst thing the 'infamous' Dean does is call br()bert clueless. I *think* this should put this in perspective for everyone. Btw, Dean, you're in the clear, here