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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Cold Air Induction....

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Anyone ever install this on a 305 TPI?

Is it worth it, easy to install? Or a waste of money?

Obviously would be for a 91 - 92.

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 04:45 AM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

It should help a little but you are looking at one for the wrong year car. The one you listed isn't for 90-92. Hawks third gen has them for $224.95 for the one needed for a 90-92.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

Z2EIGHT - The Camaros came with much better intakes than the Firebirds. Your intake can be modified very easily and would be better than the SLP cold air kit.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

u r a bit backwards hitech, its the other way around.. read the mag articles on the homepage. the firebird unduction was superior to that of the camaros. i mean in stock form of course. slp is the way to go, for a good mild bolt on. or even better a real ram air box.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

The stock camaro TPI airbox isnt all that bad with a stock engine and is already a cold air intake to begin with. I have it on my 350 and the pressure drop at WOT is in a reasonable range. Could be better, but wouldnt be worth the $$$ for an aftermarket intake. With your 305, its a fairly good match.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

I did see some on Ebay for our birds, but it doesn't seem to have that box...
It does have a nice shiny pipe that goes to the stock location.... which is right next to the radiator anyway...?? It seemed to be $50, take a look...

I just bought a K&N cone filter and put it on the snout of the TPI (no MAF Sensor), I prefer the way it looks... yes, it sucks in warmer air than the cold air deal... so if you're racing, maybe not a great option... But I don't race...

K&N was $35 from Auto Parts Store new...

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

The stock camaro air box with the splash guards removed and some ram air ducting from the fog light area will give your motor all the air it needs. It is only a 5 horsepower restriction on a car producing 364 at the wheels. It has been well documented on these boards that the cone filter will do nothing but make your car slower. Also just do a search and you will find that stock for stock, the camaro airbox is far superior to the firebird ducting. If you need more proof, then why does no one offer a cold air kit specifically for a tpi camaro? SLP's was designed with the firebird in mind, hence the reason you need to move the battery or charcoal canister (can't remember which way it goes) and reroute wiring on the camaro.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

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The stock camaro air box with the splash guards removed and some ram air ducting from the fog light area will give your motor all the air it needs. It is only a 5 horsepower restriction on a car producing 364 at the wheels. It has been well documented on these boards that the cone filter will do nothing but make your car slower. Also just do a search and you will find that stock for stock, the camaro airbox is far superior to the firebird ducting. If you need more proof, then why does no one offer a cold air kit specifically for a tpi camaro? SLP's was designed with the firebird in mind, hence the reason you need to move the battery or charcoal canister (can't remember which way it goes) and reroute wiring on the camaro.
92rs slow$^&$%$# , anyway yes the slp cold air was designed for just the firebirds, not because it needed it more, but because back in the thirdgen days slp made firehawks"formulas" they didnt do camaros yet. and thats why they desingned it just for the birds. there design hasent changed since 1991. so u r wrong!!
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

1 more thing, aside from slp's original cold air. no other company has made any kits for any other thirdgens. camaros or birds. DO U NEED MORE PROOF?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

My RS goes 12.9 at 106, man that is slow... back to the point. No one even attempted an intake for the camaro because there wasn't a need for it. The firebird box was a quick fix from GM because the camaro version wouldn't fit under the hood. SLP made one because they knew the firebird box was crappy. I never said the design changed. That's not even the intake they used on the Firehawk's. I guess I should expect that type of response from someone who doesn't have a clue.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

And there u have it. I'm a loser for giving out good info. Do a search. The modified camaro box is a better choice than wasting $220 on the SLP kit.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

I agree with 92RSZ. That was my point on my earlier response. The factory Camaro intake can easily be modified by removing the baffles and gutting the area under the air filters. As noted, there is also tech articles on here about running ducting from the area behind the foglights up to the air filter boxes that bring a direct charge of cold air.

8T9 Bandit - Do not take offense to my response. You appear to be a little defensive.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

I bought one of the ones of Ebay and I really like it, I am going to upgrade the filter to a K&N one, but it did make a little difference.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

Originally Posted by 8T9 BANDIT
DUDE U R WRONG!!!!!!!, NO IT MAY NOT BE THE EXACT SAME BOX. ITS SIMILAR AND IMPROVED OVER THE YEARS, #2 WHO CARES ABOUT YOURE E/T MY 01 WS6 WOULD SMOKE THAT ANYWAY. SO SHUT THE **** UP, UR A LOSER!!!
That'll be enough of that. Attacking a posters argument is one thing, attacking the poster is another, and against TGO's rules.
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I did see some on Ebay for our birds, but it doesn't seem to have that box...
It does have a nice shiny pipe that goes to the stock location.... which is right next to the radiator anyway...?? It seemed to be $50, take a look...

I just bought a K&N cone filter and put it on the snout of the TPI (no MAF Sensor), I prefer the way it looks... yes, it sucks in warmer air than the cold air deal... so if you're racing, maybe not a great option... But I don't race...

K&N was $35 from Auto Parts Store new...

Raf
Ive used this with my car as well, and its an easy way to improve airflow, but after sitting for a bit, the IATs head up to 180+ deg F in hot weather.

For stock or mild street 305s and 350s, the stock camaro TPI airbox will be sufficient. For reference, my vortec pulls around 1.5 inHg at 4500 RPM. With no aircleaner at all, its around .6 inHg. Not ideal, but wont kill the power, either

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

Originally Posted by HiTech5
I agree with 92RSZ. That was my point on my earlier response. The factory Camaro intake can easily be modified by removing the baffles and gutting the area under the air filters. As noted, there is also tech articles on here about running ducting from the area behind the foglights up to the air filter boxes that bring a direct charge of cold air.

8T9 Bandit - Do not take offense to my response. You appear to be a little defensive.
I want to try this. What baffles are you talking about? Than ks
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

If your car is totally stock and you take the air filters out on the driver side filter you will see a flap on your right hand side with 2 screws through it. Take out the screws and remove the plastic flap and you will see rectangular holes in the filter box. If you take the whole assembly out of the car you can cut the bottom of the filter boxes out. There is a piece of plastic inside the car though you should also cut holes in or remove to get air into your intake. On the passenger side filter the flap to remove will be on your left hand side. Don't you guys look at your cars to see what you can tinker with LOL ? I figured this stuff out over 10 years ago and did it to my car and a buddies before he ever read it in a book.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

$300.00 for some plastic ducting and a box. Make your own and save on this way overpriced item.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

I have a 91 z and I bought the ram air boxes from Hawk`s for 115 shipped. They weren`t too bad too install. thats prolly your best bet
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Re: Cold Air Induction....

Originally Posted by Stangtamer89
If your car is totally stock and you take the air filters out on the driver side filter you will see a flap on your right hand side with 2 screws through it. Take out the screws and remove the plastic flap and you will see rectangular holes in the filter box. If you take the whole assembly out of the car you can cut the bottom of the filter boxes out. There is a piece of plastic inside the car though you should also cut holes in or remove to get air into your intake. On the passenger side filter the flap to remove will be on your left hand side. Don't you guys look at your cars to see what you can tinker with LOL ? I figured this stuff out over 10 years ago and did it to my car and a buddies before he ever read it in a book.
THanks for the tips man. I appreciate it. I'm going to do this tomorrow. Did you notice any kind of difference?
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