Xx89CamaroRSxX

anyone ever use that alldata thing you can buy a subscription to for a year? is it better then the haynes manual or same thing? dont wunna buy it if its the same thing. i just need something more detailed like the real service manuals but i dont wunna spend a ton on one.

Apeiron

Alldata, Haynes and Chilton each have some pieces of information that the others don't. None of them on its own is very complete.

The only manual worth having is the factory service manual from Helm.

Xx89CamaroRSxX

alright thanks. guess ill just have to save up fer the $80 for the service manual

Apeiron

They show up regularly on eBay for a lot less, if you don't mind the occasional greasy thumbprint.

Xx89CamaroRSxX

all right ill look cus thats fine with me. do u know if the all data has stuff about the fuel injectore removal and what not? i need to replace em on my 89 2.8 but theres NOTHING in the haynes manual. its so stupid. and whats ther is veryyyy vague. and i cant find a write up on here about it at all

Apeiron

No idea, sorry.

UnderCover89TBI

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Alldata claims to have the OE information. I used alldata and mitchell. I prefer mitchell. But alldata has some stuff mitchell doesnt have and mitchell has stuff that alldata doesnt have. Almost need both for complete information. But the mitchell online subcription. Has a lot of diagnostic data and if thier is something abnormal a lot of time tech's will post up something saying hey if your having this problem check this part out because I spent 5 hours diagnosing a 60 dollar part etc etc..

Apeiron

That's pretty much it. Either you get the Haynes and the Chilton, and subscribe to Alldata and Mitchell's, hoping that at least one of them has what you're looking for, or you get just the Helm and maybe one of the subscriptions for TSB info.

mcgarnicle

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googled: "2.8 camaro fuel injector removal"

results: http://www.ehow.com/how_4509048_repl...vy-camaro.html

Cheers

B Rhodes

I agree, my shop has Alldata and Mitchell they are both very helpful but why buy a year subscription when you can get a helms manual that is way more complete for not much more. I buy helms manuals for the cars I own and they have a retarded amount of information and sometimes colored wire diagrams, diagnostic aids etc.

Xx89CamaroRSxX

All those manuals I see on eBay for $80 are those the helms manuals?

itsMikey

ALLDATA, isnt it usually used by tech's?

Apeiron

Yes, Helm publishes factory service manuals for a number of brands. Don't pay $80 for a used one though when that's what they cost new directly from Helm. http://www.helminc.com.

Apeiron

There's the professionall Alldata which used to be on DVD but is now online, but there's also a lightweight version you can subscribe to for individual year-make-model-engine combinations and access online.

jharrison5

I have bought a few shop and body manuals on CD off of Ebay in the past few months and am real happy with them. I paid around $30 apiece for them and I just print off a page when i need to. Better than buying a second hand greasy book for $80 IMO.

avilla20

all data is mostly all the same stuff as the mitchell book, mithcell on demand is better i work at a ford shop and we have both mitchell and alldata, when i get a non ford diag or when i need to diag my camaro's i use mitchell on demand.

Xx89CamaroRSxX

it says like $140 new?

at least for the 1989 camaro book

itsMikey

oh..thats pretty cool

Apeiron

Ouch... it looks like they're out of stock of originals for 89 and all they have is the repros at twice the price. Other years are cheaper.

tylercamaro

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in my auto shop at school we use alldata

Xx89CamaroRSxX

yeah, i found a used one that wasnt bad condition just some stains on the cover.

smokintire84z28

ive been using alldata at the shop for a few years now. for the most part its pretty good stuff, but thier wiring schematics can be kinda incomplete sometimes

UnderCover89TBI

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yup mitchell wiring diagrams are better. if you have one or two cars a regular manual would be fine. But at a shop you cant buy a service manual for every car. Well I guess you could technically just doesnt seem as practical.

JoeyCamaro27

We use both alldata and the Mitchell program and the Alldata is good but the Mitchell is way better. It's worth the money.

stangeater454

If you have the top dollor subscription to alldata, There's nothing that you can't find on it. It cost about 500.00 a month but it hasn't let me down yet.

J91

All data can be had for $175 a month and if it's not on there, their customer support team will get you the info......

Apeiron

There's a world of difference between the professional and the DIY subscriptions.

J91

Well i do not know about the DIY subs. I have my own shop and subscribe to the professional version. I am sure that you are right though...

eseibel67

I have both AllData Pro and Mitchell on Demand. Can't remember how I used to fix cars without them.

Of the 2, I would give Mitchell the nod. The searching function and organization of the info is more logical. I typically go there first, and use AllData for backup.

UnderCover89TBI

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I enjoy the alldata search function easier, usually what you are looking for pops up in the 1st 2 options.

mitchell search is powered by google but you can type in power steering pump removal and it'll bring up wiring diagram because it shows a power steering switch on there. irritates me.

J91

Yeah, I prefer Alldata ovcer Mitchell, my buddy has Mitchell at his shop. We always call one another for backup! LOL. Either way both are invaluable tools...

Xx89CamaroRSxX

i got my helms manual in its like the freaking bible. although its not COMPLETLY use full. i see little things like "drain radiator" as part of a part disassemble but it doesnt mention the actaul drain plug location (i know where it is im just saying) unless i just cant find the right section since the book is so big lol