granted for the money, the ultra-z is an awesome tire, but based ONLY on performnace, what would you choose?

i am looking more for all straight line traction rather than cornering. although i definitely want a tire that can handle some toght cornering, the straight line stuff is what i am really looking for.

thanks
-brian

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1991 Camaro RS - Ultra Blue Metallic, T-Tops
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GM 350 HO Crate Engine - Vortec Heads, Edelbrock Performer Vortec Intake, Holley 670 CFM Throttle Body, Open Air Cleaner w/14"x3" K&N, SLP 1 3/4" Stainless Headers, Edelbrock Victor Series Water Pump, MSD 6AL, Blaster Coil, 8.5mm Super Conductors, Accel Cap and Rotor, Hypertech Fan Switch & Thermomaster Chip, AC Delco Rapidfires, 3" Cat Back, Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler

700R4 - 2,400 Stall Converter, Vette Servo, Shift Kit, B&M Super Cooler

Brian's 1991 RS
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Why not go with the BFG Drag Radial?

 

the bfg drag radial is terrible for street use. they are meant to go basically to and from the track, not for every day driving or they will wear out way too fast. good for the track, but not so good for the street.

i plan on getting a set for another set of rims that i have for when i go to the track, but not for every day driving.

-brian

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1991 Camaro RS - Ultra Blue Metallic, T-Tops
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GM 350 HO Crate Engine - Vortec Heads, Edelbrock Performer Vortec Intake, Holley 670 CFM Throttle Body, Open Air Cleaner w/14"x3" K&N, SLP 1 3/4" Stainless Headers, Edelbrock Victor Series Water Pump, MSD 6AL, Blaster Coil, 8.5mm Super Conductors, Accel Cap and Rotor, Hypertech Fan Switch & Thermomaster Chip, AC Delco Rapidfires, 3" Cat Back, Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler

700R4 - 2,400 Stall Converter, Vette Servo, Shift Kit, B&M Super Cooler

Brian's 1991 RS
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Firestone Firehawks I like Cheap at 85 bucks a tire for 16inch Great on teh street and very little traction problem at the track.

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89 FORMULA 350 Edelbrock Cat-Back ,March Pulleys,Super Coil,MSD 6AL ,Edelbrock TES's, AFPR ,Shiftkit, Edelbrock Base ,AS&M Runners, Edelbrock Waterpump, Fast chip,Crane Gold 1.6 RR's, MSD 22# Injectors ,9.5 Vigilante. Hoping for 13.5

 

Like I said in the other post, the ultra Z's equaled the GSC's in every way, except wet handling. Here they outperformed the GSC's. This was from a test that Motor Trend did a couple of months ago.

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'82 Firebird, dead stock, 9 bolt disc rear, over 200,000 miles and still going strong, more to come...

 

Try the Nitto drag radial. I havent noticed any wet traction problems. Might be because I just use my head while driving and dont do stupid stuff when the roads conditions are bad.

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Mark Lock
- 86 IROC-Z - Torn down for 383/SuperRam T56 setup
- -= IROC Online =- - The site dedicated to the IROC-Z

 

When Motor trend tested the Gsc's vs. Futura they were behind (the futura's) in everything except braking. They stopped 2 feet shorter. It was on a 99 mustang Gt. The gsc is a better tire. But i'd go with the eagle F1's much better tires.

 

Due to longterm reliabilty, tread pattern, softness of the tire, and just a liking to Goodyear, I think I'd prefer to keep the GSC's, besides, in da 12's on the GSC's, hoping quicker on BFG Drag's.



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Dan Young
1995 Z28/M6
Groton, CT

1985 Z28/A4
(Prospective purchase)

 

How about BFG CompT/A's? Thats what i run and they are a good tire. I actually have a Ultra Z on my back driver side cause i blew out my tire and couldn't find a Comp replacement in time.

 

After driving a friend's 95 convertible Z with the BFG Comp TA-ZR's, I really like them as well, I guess I'm just Goodyear-biased. They both make high quality tires, I can't really say Jack about the Futura's, as I've never bought 'em, and without much to go on but a road test by a magazine that constantly puts down cars like the camaro, etc, I probably never will.



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Dan Young
1995 Z28/M6
Groton, CT

1984 Z28/A4 - Prospective purchase

 

I have BFGs on my Elcamino, but when the time comes, I'm going with the Futuras. Mainly for the price. I have the Futuras on my T/A, the GLH series. I love them. They have lasted a long time, (and I drive them hard too) But I will upgrade to the GLSs. A slightly better tire, and worth every penny. Litterally, every penny.

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'82 Firebird, dead stock, 9 bolt disc rear, over 200,000 miles and still going strong, more to come...

 

I didn't want to go woth the Comp T/A ZRs because they are way to expensive. They will run me like 800 bucks, while the Ultra-Zs are like 450 and the GSCs are like 500 (I plan on getting them from SLP if I get them).

If money wasn't an issue, then I would definitely go with the Comp T/As. I LOVE those tires, but I just can't see spending the money on them.

If you look at teh latest Pep Boy's brochure about the Ultra-Zs, it has a little thing from when a magazine tested them against a GSC. I don't remember which magazine though, it could have bee the Motor Trend that you guys were talking about.

But, my point is that they had all of teh numbers right there in their brochure which stated that the Goodyears actually beat it in EVERY category but wet traction I think. Don't ask me why the hell they would advertise that they lost a comparison test, but they did.

Well, luckily there is still a few months of snow up here, so I don't have to make a decision just yet. So far though, I think I am leaning towards the GSCs, primarily based on teh fact that the new Zs and TAs come with them from teh factory. That has to mean something.

Keep the opinions coming though.

-Brian

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1991 Camaro RS - Ultra Blue Metallic, T-Tops
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GM 350 HO Crate Engine - Vortec Heads, Edelbrock Performer Vortec Intake, Holley 670 CFM Throttle Body, Open Air Cleaner w/14"x3" K&N, SLP 1 3/4" Stainless Headers, Edelbrock Victor Series Water Pump, MSD 6AL, Blaster Coil, 8.5mm Super Conductors, Accel Cap and Rotor, Hypertech Fan Switch & Thermomaster Chip, AC Delco Rapidfires, 3" Cat Back, Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler

700R4 - 2,400 Stall Converter, Vette Servo, Shift Kit, B&M Super Cooler

Brian's 1991 RS
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I don't own a set of Ultra Zs, but I can tell you this: There are a lot of guys who swear buy them, especially some of the 4thgen guys at CamaroZ28.com. Some of them have cut 2.0 60 foots on them, so they can't be too bad. Plus, at $100 a piece, they are a great deal. They have a nice sidewall profile. And finally, they are wide as hell. They are literally barely smaller than a 17" 275 width tire. 245 my *** ... I **** you not, side by side they are barely smaller than a 275/40/17. I plan to get a set for the rear of my T/A soon.


But if you like the feeling of getting boned in the *** by all means get a set of Goodyears. Biggest ripoffs in the tire business IMO.

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91 Trans Am WS6
Bright White
5.0 TPI auto
Flowmaster 3" 2 chamber catback
Trans Go shiftkit
2000 stall converter

Built on Wednesday

 

for the price the ultra z's are one of the best tires u can buy.on a warm day they stick like a motherf#&ker

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1991 banditt2 firebird #130of#600

 

i have a set of 235/60/15 firehawk ss20. they cost me 368 mounted/balanced/roadhazard. good cornering, wet traction, hooks up when stomped on decently good daily driver tires, will spin but not fo rto long. i got r+s strouss specials for 250 and i could burn them all day

-Stell

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1988 IROC 305TPI MINT!!
Mods= Accell SuperCoil, MSD 6A, Ported Plenum, No MAF Screans , K & N, 160 Thermostat+ Temp Switch, Relocated MAT, Cold Air

 

ok brian..
i went with the
COOPER COBRA XST's
245/50-16 .. i love these tires. and since i noticed you dont drive your car in the winter i mentioned this. it is specifically for the summer time tire. the tread is deep. and the tread wear is 380. i searched everytire that was made and it came down to cooper.. and i am a BFG man. the biggest thing that brought me to these tires was the tread pattern. the W pattern in these are bad *ss. and in the rain it is unbelievable. the spread the water like the red sea. haha. but seriously for 100.00 a tire i was impressed and you should check them out. COOPER COBRA XST's. you will be amazed. and the traction is amazing also. i had firstones when i bought the car and i started to see steel belts so i changed tires to the coopers and i gained .2 off of my time slip. have fun and also go to TIRERACK.com to look for some really good deals.

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1990 IROC-Z L98 350 TPI
AFPR 49PSI, GUTTED AIR BOXES, K&N, RAM AIR, PORTED PLENUM, B&M SHIFTER, 3.23 LIMITED SLIP, DUAL CATS, STOCK SUPER TURBO EXHAUST, COOPER COBRA XST's

MUSTANGS...ONLY 4 LUGS....HAHA THAT IS HILARIOUS.

 

So I'm assuming ya don't like Goodyear's, MrJ. I don't know if I'd go and call 'em the biggest ripoff in the tire business though. They perform best on dry pavement, and they're soft as hell. If you run these directional GSC's backwards on your rear wheels, you will indeed pick up better 60' times at the strip. It's kind of like the difference in bolt-on parts. Some prefer one brand, while some prefer another. Some will buy the cheaper, uncoated headers, while others will spend the $ on the ceramic coated or stainless ones. It's all what ya want, and what ya wanna spend. Either way, I'll bet I can post under 2.00 on my Goodyears, mounted any way you want.



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Dan Young
1995 Z28/M6
Groton, CT

1985 Z28/A4
(Prospective purchase)

 

Its not that I don't like goodyears. I used to have a set of Eagle VRs on the front of the car, and they performed well. One thing I do like about them is how their tires are so wide. A Goodyear Eagle GS-C 245/50/16 is a nice looking tire, don't get me wrong. My problem with Goodyear is that they charge so much. You can get your money's worth better elsewhere.

 

I do indeed agree with ya on their price. They are high as hell, and for a retro (if that's what came stock) preference, cool. But damn, even the BFG drag radial is cheaper. And if those aren't high enough, dig the sticker on the F1's.



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Dan Young
1995 Z28/M6
Groton, CT

1985 Z28/A4
(Prospective purchase)

 

I personally have had NO problems with the BfGoodrich Comp T/As. They have been a great tire. I also have put the Cooper Cobras on many of my customer's vehicles and they loved them! So, I say go with what you like. If it were based on price, I would go with the Cobras hands down. All out performance, Comp T/As, hands down! just my .02

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Chris "$teve" Williams
1984 Firebird "Stroker GT
2 1978 WS6 Trans AMs (one of which is a "T/A 6.6" 220 hp.)
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[This message has been edited by DaBandit (edited January 03, 2001).]

 

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