cartiger

Damages done on my Camaro will last forever. 118,000 actual mileage
There is no way to bring my car back to life, unless I will spend thousands of dollars in parts and in a new engine, because Bar's overheated everything on its way
Bar's can not claim to only target and plug the little hole on the head gasket, but is goes without control to everywhere and all the passages that will received coolant to bring down the engine temperature to an acceptable level. But Bar's also went to the heater core, clogging it to the extreme as well to water pump, radiator and thermostat
Bar's is satisfied on all the parts already damaged, the engine is the next target and victim
WHY?... because water will not circulate and engine will be knocked out forever

Bar's head gasket p/t 1111 to plug minor coolant leaks is a total failure
After I was duped by Bar's Product , I realized by looking at many people complaints, that people selling used cars on the streets as well as on Craigslist, welcome this product to sell junk cars to people that needed a car to go to work, but buyers are not aware of buying a junk car with band-aid engine that will fail at any time soon, costing thousands of dollars in engine repairs or will have to replace the whole engine by a new one
This big band-aid of BAR'S HEAD GASKET FIX is ready to break at any time and causing big damages to engine by overheated and cooling system damages

I can expect, out of line arguments and replies from people that claim that they used the Bar's Product.
Those people appears to been trained in telling the people false stories that are far away from the reality
I'm positive, people without bringing any proof and evidence on Bar's products, their experience on their cars are just stories and arguments with no merit at all
Please help to clean up America and don't buy anything from Bar's Products

BAR'S PRODUCTS SCAMMED PEOPLE AND RIP OFF CUSTOMERS. BAR'S OLD TIMERS OWNERS, INSIST TO MAKE MONEY IN AN OLD PRODUCT THAT IS NO CAPABLE TO REPAIR CRACKS ON ALUMINUM HEADS. 65% OF USERS REPORTED BIG ENGINE DAMAGES AND PARTS DAMAGES

Bar's business is going down and down and there is no God to save Bar's!
As someone said, Bar's is a home based business built on bottles photos and lies, but no company behind it to protect you and pay for damages

five7kid

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I ran my Gen I 350 with Bars Leak head gasket sealant for about 5 years (2005-2010). I pulled the engine when I did the LS1 swap in August '10.

It stopped the head gasket leak that would have required engine disassembly to fix (this right after I got the engine running). I did flush the cooling system about a year later, and the leak didn't recur. The only overheating problems I had were related to the electric radiator fan circuit (not the sensor in the head, or any plugged passages). The heater worked fine - in fact, the heater core is still in the car (and the car is driven in winter).

If you think you can prove that I am "trained to tell people false stories that are far from reality", please post it here. Yes, this is just a "story", but I'll stake my reputation here that it is true.

Granted, this was an iron block and iron heads, but if you're talking specifically about aluminum blocks or aluminum heads, perhaps you should state that specifically, rather than risking libel. I have no experience using the product with aluminum blocks or heads.

Birdstheword

why would you waste you're money on a bottle full of crap when you could have easily
replaced the head gaskets ?

Keoman

iTrader: (3)

and people look at me weird when I tell them to stay away from stop leak...

Dakota W.

I never recommend it. You want to fix a head gasket? Do it the right way.

NemeSS-TyranT

iTrader: (1)

no different than using any other auto store band aid fixes.
only way to be guaranteed free of problems is to correctly repair the problem. nothing else is guaranteed.
ive learned that bad **** will happen when you try n get away with something, when you alredy know better.

jharrison5

I have used their products in a pinch a few times when I was a ways from home and ran into some problems, but never for the long term. People need to use more common sense when it comes to their cars and realize that if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

FRMULA88

it sealed the head studs on my 400 SBC.

Granted the OEM block does not have blind tapped holes so that did not help.

thread sealant was also used on studs during assembly but water still found a way in.

Barr's solved the problem in a pinch



The only way to properly fix this was to use a Dart Block with blind tapped holes which was done at a later date since the OEM block would not last the intended application.

FRMULA88

This post is riddled with grammatical errors, that I highly doubt the creditability of the author.

If you are going to make claims against a product learn how to write first...

cartiger

So, the information is affecting you and your business?
Please readers, help to clean up America of people like FRMULA88
People having a complaint, they don't need to go 3 times to college and graduated 3 times to be accepted on any claim
I think you are connected to Bar's and you came from other planet

cartiger

Bar's refuses to be more specific on what it does or not, because if Bar's is going to explain better and telling the truth and risk for using the product, people will not buy the product
Anyway, Bar's is selling a product for old iron engines and heads, with no application today on aluminum heads and aluminum block

cartiger

People should not look at you weird, you are right on Bar's bad product
Bar's knows that the bad economy has victims that can't afford expensive auto repairs, so, they kept digging in on that
But, now Bar's is is belly up and no selling the product
That's the reason why, Bar's went to social networks and put videos on it.
If the products is well known and the product is good to repair head gasket, why Bar's Products posted thousands of fakes reviews and a large numbers of videos?
The product is a failure, 65% of the times
New cars are selling like hot cakes and people do not need Bar's

novaderrik

i used their headgasket repair in a bottle on the 3.1 in a 97 Monte Carlo that had 298,000 miles on it.. it needed both head gaskets, and i knew that a good number of the bolts would have broken if i had tried to do the head gaskets... so i got the magic goop in the plastic bottle and got 20,000 more miles out of it before it let go again..

TraviZ

iTrader: (2)

This thread hurts my head.

raynehr

Yea, don't use anything that claims to stop leaks because its just gonna stop up everything else too. Take the time to fix a leak and do it right, in the long run it will be cheaper as he found out... Best of luck!!

Caveman305

iTrader: (8)

i used the bars head gasket "fix"

ran it for about a week, flushed my system, never had an issue after that

that was before i started tearing into and actually trying to fix problems with my car

I do everything the right way now


on that note, there are tons of posts everywhere warning about snake oil producs, that can also actually do more harm than good

Richboll

I'm not sure I can even follow the OP's rant.
I've used Bars Leak on a number of things including a welded up cracked block that was seeping, and I've never had a problem with it. I've used it for a emergency repair that turned into a permanent repair. The only thing I had no luck with was the headbolt problem on a Cadillac Northstar engine. I tried a number of expensive sealers on that problem and none of them did diddly squat.
I'd always rather fix the problem correctly but sometimes you need to use a band-aid.

cartiger

Opinions and personal gains goes hand to hand.
Bar's is not working on Northstar engines, but the bottle says a different story
In other words, Bar's wants your money and then you are in your own
Somehow, Bar's is selling the bottle at lower prices than the competition. The bottle is not working and you use it in your toilet

Richboll

Ok I guess we agree to disagree. I'll use it when I feel it is suitable and you won't. We're good to go so I'm out of here.

Johnny Blaze

iTrader: (15)

Next time, fix the problem instead of buying asnake oil.


But that's the American way. Instead of working to fix the issue everyone wants any easy magic fix.

UnderCover89TBI

iTrader: (25)

you're the cheap person who decided to try a "sealant in a bottle" than fix the problem right. Anythign that isn't designed for your car should not go in your car. But on that note. I have seen people use that knowing their could be reprocussions and they got it sealed up and drove for years. And I have seen others use it and not fix their problem. They have very distinct instuctions and most times they say do not use with coolant, could plug heater core, etc. So by buying a product like this you are saying "I dont care, i just need to get my car going" instead of saying well my car is broken, I do not have the money to fix it properly so I will go to work until I have the money and then fix it properly. They sell cigarettes no one makes you buy them!

cartiger

NOT SO!
There are more than 10 million people having no jobs and no money
Message to Fred Mannix:
Some people, such as sociopaths, find lying to be a breeze. Those kind of liars are completely self-centered and without remorse, and are unlikely to ever be considerate of another human. For most people, lies aimed at manipulating another person will always come at great cost to you Fred Mannix, when you are uncovered
Bar's Products, Fred Mannix is a con man, a swindler and a dangerous pathological liar. I’m warning to others who may fall prey of his lies and manipulative games. Fred Mannix has other agendas and is to rip off

Johnny Blaze

iTrader: (15)

Facepalm!

Johnny Blaze

iTrader: (15)

That reads like a spam email from Africa.

cartiger

Bar's is a home based business built on bottles photos, but no large facilities to show where technicians and engineers are working on engines

joshc

iTrader: (1)

If you think Bars is a home based business, I think its a hopeless debate.

I don't support its use in all situations, but I have seen it work.
It has been around a long time, and is considered the best product of its kind.
Many oem's (GM, and Ford) have sold rebranded Bars leak as a coolant leak stop and prevent-er.
I prefer to fix things properly but had Bars seal up a radiator in an emergency, and it ended up lasting years.

cartiger

It worked on very old iron heads, not on aluminum heads
I think Bar's needs to rewrite the whole book, but they are too old to do that and not having the technological know how
Bar's claims are based on what? on lies and fakes reviews?
If you can't trust Bar's reviews, can you trust Bar's Products?
Some Bar's reviews came from drivers of old cars, obviously having iron heads on their cars

cartiger

How do I know that you care?
How do I know that you have a lot of money to buy things and repair whatever?
If you give me the money to fix the car, I will be happy
Talk is cheap behind the computer, but if I try to shake your pant, there is no money coming down from there and you probably wear the same old shoes than anybody else.

cartiger

Sorry, I learned from you and you are not a good teacher
I think your credibility is on the line and you want to trash me

Johnny Blaze

iTrader: (15)

Your camaro has iron heads.

cartiger

Bar's disclosures of its business and earnings is priority number one
The way to do that is by showing legitimate LAWFUL copies of TAXES paid on 2012
Bar's is a home based business and fill ups bottle in the kitchen table

cartiger

no iron heads

cartiger

I'm positive, people without bringing any proof and evidence on Bar's products their experience on their cars are just stories and arguments with no merit at all

Johnny Blaze

iTrader: (15)

What year is your camaro?

GOATS2QUICK

iTrader: (5)

right back atcha, bla, bla, bla.

Killert

iTrader: (9)

Please link to you information sources to back up this statement.
Please link to you information sources to back up this statement.

Please link to you information sources to back up this statement.

Please link to you information sources to back up this statement.

jdawg1276

this was the biggest waste of time! I have seen it used in a pinch knowing what it may or may not do that's the risk you take that's why there are mechanic's if you could poor a bottle of snakeoil and be fixed 100% there would be no need in mechanic's!!!! I'm out

joshc

iTrader: (1)

Funny, I just google mapped their address and the satellite photo shows a large industrial factory.
I guess Bars must have paid off google to perpetuate this elaborate hoax!

I think I smell a troll!

novaderrik

they must have a big kitchen table, because they move a lot of product. they also have a pretty impressive website for something that's done out of someone's kitchen.

http://barsproducts.com/

it's not the best fix, but it's the least bad one for some situations... take the 97 Monte Carlo i mentioned in my previous post... 198,000 miles, every bolt is corroded and rusty. the owner just needed the car to last a few months until she could get a better car. i priced out the parts to do the head gaskets the right way- it comes out to around $300 for just the parts... then factor in the time and energy spent screwing around with all the bolts that will inevitably break and the heads that are probably warped and/or cracked, and it becomes a $1000+ fix really fast... on a rusted out 15 year old car that is going to be replaced in a few months, anyways...
she go 9 months and about 20,000 miles out of that $20 fix, and was able to afford something different when the stuff let go again.

i also tried it in my 98 Cavalier this spring- it blew the head gasket 10,000 miles after i replaced it.. the car was maybe worth the price that the scrapper would give for it based on it's weight... i figured a $20 can of goo that worked for me in the past was worth a shot.. it didn't work, i sold the car to a guy at work for $160 just to get it out of my life and he filled it full of scrap metal and hauled it in to the scrap yard..

would i put it in a car that i cared about? maybe, maybe not, depending on the situation...

IROCmenace

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UnderCover89TBI

iTrader: (25)

he quoted me twice and said two different things!

FtrSpeedy

Hahaha i cant stop laughing at this joke

1986 305 RS

Across the board I say jfc and holy s... what it comes down to is reading the instructions and follwing them correctly and either it fixes the leak or it doesn't. IT'S A F...... CONSPIRACY MAN LOL! I have used bar's leak a number of times in my 20 years of driving along with people I know with no issues THE F...... TREE CAME OUTTA NO WHERE OCIFER! What i say can say is $20 blue devil oil stop leak didn't work for me but that doesn't mean it's a conspiracy and I'm gonna sit in the corner of my garage with my knees against my chest rocking back and forth with a aluminum foil helmet and a fork in one hand and a knife in the other waiting for the aliens to take me away. Lil man grab a manual and tools next time. Im not a mechanic and this has to be the easiest car to work on that ive ever owned. Im proud to say its my first chevy ever and owning it puts a smile on my face. Its been on a lift for over a month pics will be comming not soon enough.

Richboll

The OP's rant appears to be over. Hmmm I wonder if his Camaro is for sale?

1986 305 RS

I sure hope so. I was working on waking him up.....WAIT WHATS THAT BRITE LIGHT HOLY CRAP THEIR HERE THEIR HERE!!!

insomniac

iTrader: (3)

bars does work. i saw it on a north star caddy. guy came into my shop he needed a head gasket, he did not hav ethe money, he brought in that stuff asked me to throw it in. I did problem solved. That was 2007 comes back in 2011 same issue, he wants top do it again so we change his coolant he brings me another bottle. instantly stops the overheating. car still working fine, he was here last week for an oil change.

needless to say im shocked but snake oil? no not at all. the crap actually works


part number 1109



id imagine the original poster probably had some other issues going on with the motor. kinda the same thing as when i do a transmission on a car and then the light in the glove compartment stops working and thats my fault.... true story, some jerk actually tried to tell me that once. i shoved that light bulb so far up his *** you wouldnt believe

Johnny Blaze

iTrader: (15)

I'm curious about the ops camaro, must be special to have aluminum heads.

joshc

iTrader: (1)

Northstars have aluminum heads, so apparently some are having good luck with Bars and aluminum head issues.

FtrSpeedy

Ive used it and had success with a few of my cars and used it on over the road semis and dump trucks, ill bet if the op is for real, then used liquid glass and didnt drain antifreeze which is hilarious.

1986 305 RS

My thoughts when I first read it was he grabed tranny stop leak and said hey pa this here tranny goop does the same thing and its 6 bucks cheeper yee haw that will leave me enough for some skoal and a beer