nuggie

okay so I just went around and over killed my ignition system with MSD cap/rotor, wires (PN 35599) , coil (PN 5526), ign box, and even spark plugs. the wires are great the have more then enough length but the coil wire doesn't attach to the coil, it appears to have to have the male end on the wire when I need the female end anyone know if they make the right kit or if I can just get the coil wire?

Night rider327

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MSD wires works perfect with MSD coil if you buy the correct parts.

The wire set you bought is for the canister type coil. Not the E core type coil.

You need an HEI type coil wire for that.

This is the coil wire you have correct? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-84049/overview/

You need this one... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-84059/overview/

And as you can see, you can buy just a coil wire. $16

BOTTLEDZ28

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Take the MSD parts off the engine and throw them in the trash. Then, go buy original OEM replacements parts.

crazynights

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Why do you say that Bottled?

BOTTLEDZ28

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Because IMO, MSD products are garbage. 99% of people who buy their products think that they are getting top notch quality parts that will make their engine run better. Nothing beats the OEM replacement parts on our cars. The stock parts works just fine for igniting the spark to run these engines. Stop buying into the hype that MSD product make HP.

rusty vango

because , MSD has seen fit to have "china" make their products.

Night rider327

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BottledZ28, I have to disagree with you some. Yes if we are talking stock for stock you are correct. The factory oem replacements are fine, but however we do not know the mods the OP has done.

With a performance build some of the oem stuff just won't cut it.

Like say my car. '88 RS but with a 10.34:1 355, brodix IK 200 heads, 249/252@.050" cam, .570"/.579" lift, shifting at 7200 RPM.

You think I should pull off the MSD 8.5mm wires, pro billet dist., mallory e core coil, and mallory digital 685 box, anmd my rev limiters, two step, etc?

Ron U.S.M.C.

For my little 5.0 stock motor I like to throw a little color on it.


I prefer the Summit Brand Wires . = http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-868858r
(they also come in blue and I believe Black)


MSD Cap and Rotor = http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ms...t/model/camaro


A new set of NGK G-Power Platinum Alloy Plugs.
= https://www.ngksparkplugs.com/produc...-plugs/g-power

IROCZman15

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as it happens, just this past week I am also upgrading a bunch of ignition components. Got the MSD cap and rotor, MSD blaster Coil, the measure-cut-crimp-and fit type MSD super conductor 8.5 wires, the harness adaptor, and the MSD Digital 6 Plus ignition box (needed for timing delay). I am about halfway done getting this all installed, should finish up by mid-week. I am aware that this wont give it extra power, but instead better idle, better starts, more spark voltage, and I am able to dial back the timing when the N20 is activated, as well as a rev limiter, and if I ever need it, I have the box provision for a 2 step. I don't see how this is NOT better than stock parts...

I think you bought the wrong kit for your setup therefore the wrong end terminals are on it. If you just need the coil to cap wire you can either make one, or go out and just buy one. I don't think MSD sells just a coil wire, but I am sure many othere retailers do.

Ron U.S.M.C.

IROCZman15,
So what kind of plugs are you going to use ?


I did research on the NGK G-Power Platinum's and liked the reviews.


Nice plugs at a decent price.


= https://www.ngksparkplugs.com/produc...-plugs/g-power

nuggie

I ended up just talking to a buddy that re crimped the right end on to it for the coil I do have another MSD product related question I have the MSD street fire 5520 box and it just quite on me how do I open it up to take a look at fixing it? do I have to grind those corner rivets off or can I just pop them off I don't want to break it so more water can get in there since I think that is what got it this time. If I can get it fixed I will put it on my tow rig of sell it to my dad he is famous for over revving his motors and blowing them up.

GCrites80s

You got what you needed from your MSD parts and that's flexibility. If you don't need a 2 step, aren't running nitrous, don't have high compression and all that, stock stuff is more reliable and cheaper.

edpontiac91

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My 1991 Formula has a MSD 6AL and Blaster Coil and has been on my car for about 20 years. I have heard that the newer systems to not be the higher quality that the older ones had, but that is heresay. I must say that I have always been impressed with the amount of black carbon that is NOT on the inside of my exhaust tips. I can go on 1 to 3 hour trips to car shows and put a clean rag inside the chrome tips and it comes out CLEAN. That has to tell me that there is a COMPLETE burn of the fuel inside the motor which means better power and gas mileage. Now I'am not saying that you can feel the extra power, even when I check my AC Delco Platinum plugs, there is very little soot on the tip.

GCrites80s

Does your car have any mods that typically make our cars run rich? Mine has a cam and it is RICH. The EGR is also disabled. I tried a 2002ish Accel (lasted maybe 2000 miles) and MSD (about 2004) coils and neither cleaned it up any. I took the MSD coil off and went back to the stock 30 year old one because I didn't trust the MSD and the MSD's outside metal became ugly with rust quickly. I've noticed that a lot of aftermarket parts in general become rusty or corroded quickly despite my car seeing zero winter weather.

IROCZman15

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I went from AC Delco R45TS to AC Delco R42TS in September when I put the NOS system on the car. these plugs are 2 steps colder than the 45's gapped the same though at .035

here's some quick photos I took of the MSD setup, with the MSD wires, blaster coil, cap and rotor and Digital 6 box


in the one photo, the red spark plug wires were the old ones which I used to ensure I was cutting the new ones (black ones) to proper length. I like to run my spark plug wires underneath the headers, for a clean appearance instead of draping them over or along the valve cover. I use an array of bolt-together spark plug wire seperators/clamps made by Spectre ($5 on summit) to keep them neat and tight so nothing moves around and comes in contact with a header pipe.

The Digital 6 box has been great so far. I run my normal base timing at 8 advanced and now I can use this box to dial the timing retard back up to 9.9 deg (if needed) depending on what size jets I have in the nitrous system. just running the 100 shot now, so I have the timing delay set to delay 4deg timing when the soleniods are activated. I am not using the 2 step feature yet. I did set the rev limiter to 5,500 and have not tested it yet.

As for the blaster coil and wire upgrade. as many have said. my idle has become much more smooth.. absolutely, without a doubt. I've only put about 20 miles on the car since wrapping all the projects up in early early march so I can't say too much just yet.

dlinger

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Nice looking engine IROCZman15

Ron U.S.M.C.

Beautiful engine bay.


Very nice parts indeed with a lot of attention to detail.

IROCZman15

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thanks guys. I still have a bit of cleanup to do in there by wrapping up a few more wires with plastic loom and some paint touch up.

I am definitely pleased with the MSD products and how I ran the wires. The wires worked great and cutting them to size and crimping them was definitely not hard at all. Some die-electric grease on the terminals was done also. The wire separators keep them nice and tight and no slop. Good investment for about $100 total.

Wirewrestler

I will agree with both of you to some extent. I bought my son (first car) an 86 Sport with the 2.8l. The car is bone stock with 35k original barn stored. He had a brakedown last week. After tracing it back I found his ignition coil to be bad. I took the opp to give it a fresh tune up. The only coil I could get in stock at any parts store was the Accel coil. I went to the dealer and got Delco cap, rotor, wires and upgraded his plugs to the Delco Rapidfire Platinums. He gets much better starts and smoother idles now. The stock parts seem just fine. I would have liked to put 8mm or 8.5mm wires in but just couldn't get them the same day and I didnt feel like cut and crimp. I heard MSD and Accel are the same company now from someone. Any truth to that?

Night rider327

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No sir, no truth what so every to that. MSD and Accel is now both owned by the same parent company. Holley, but they still operate from two different places and sell different products.

MSD use to be MSD LLC, and Accel was part of the Mr. Gasket performance group. Holley came in and bought everybody out.

Holley owns..
diablo sport
edge products
Frostbite cooling
Hooker
Holley
Lakewood
MSD
prestolite pro connect
sniper
weiand
Demon
Earl's
Flowtech
Hays
Black heart
Mr. Gasket
NOS
QuickTime
Superchips.

ray jr

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msd makes some of the best ignition parts in the business .. most of the guys i race with use msd ignition parts ..