TBI to Ramjet swap ?
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TBI to Ramjet swap ?
HI, I just was wondering if I can expect a power increase. TBI has 2" bore, was on a Professional Products dual plane, idle to 5500. Engine is flat top 355,LT1 cam, 062 vortec heads and shorty headers. It made 280 RWHP on a Dynojet. About 5200 is all it would go. This was on a fresh set of Comp 981 valve springs. Do any of you think the Ramjet will be better. Thanks, Dean.
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
I just started my ramjet swap. I have a 87 TPI that I converted to a 350 with an LO5 crate motor in 2000. Unfortunately it had the 193 swirl port heads. Instead of building up the TPI, which always seems to be hp limited at 300. I bought a ramjet manifold and zz4 cam off of ebay. I bought high lift zz5 vortec heads from pace parts at $229. The ram jet crate motor is rated at 350 hp with a conserative cam. I will be running a higher lift cam, heads, so I am hoping to see at least 350 hp. GMHTP had a article way back about the ramjet in a thirdgen camaro. It ran pretty good. I am hoping the combination of an modern intake manifold, modern heads and a matching cam will provide better peformance than upgradind a TPI or TBIs.
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
I just started my ramjet swap. I have a 87 TPI that I converted to a 350 with an LO5 crate motor in 2000. Unfortunately it had the 193 swirl port heads. Instead of building up the TPI, which always seems to be hp limited at 300. I bought a ramjet manifold and zz4 cam off of ebay. I bought high lift zz5 vortec heads from pace parts at $229. The ram jet crate motor is rated at 350 hp with a conserative cam. I will be running a higher lift cam, heads, so I am hoping to see at least 350 hp. GMHTP had a article way back about the ramjet in a thirdgen camaro. It ran pretty good. I am hoping the combination of an modern intake manifold, modern heads and a matching cam will provide better peformance than upgradind a TPI or TBIs.
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
Dean,
Glad to hear that the ramjet is working for you. What ECM are you using and what are you using to tune it?
I just ordered the autoprom and wideband from moates. I been burning chips for my maf system, but I plan to use the 730 ecm SD for the ramjet.
I definitely would be interested in your dyno numbers.
Thanks,
Lou
Glad to hear that the ramjet is working for you. What ECM are you using and what are you using to tune it?
I just ordered the autoprom and wideband from moates. I been burning chips for my maf system, but I plan to use the 730 ecm SD for the ramjet.
I definitely would be interested in your dyno numbers.
Thanks,
Lou
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
Dean,
Glad to hear that the ramjet is working for you. What ECM are you using and what are you using to tune it?
I just ordered the autoprom and wideband from moates. I been burning chips for my maf system, but I plan to use the 730 ecm SD for the ramjet.
I definitely would be interested in your dyno numbers.
Thanks,
Lou
Glad to hear that the ramjet is working for you. What ECM are you using and what are you using to tune it?
I just ordered the autoprom and wideband from moates. I been burning chips for my maf system, but I plan to use the 730 ecm SD for the ramjet.
I definitely would be interested in your dyno numbers.
Thanks,
Lou
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
Dean,
I did some research, and I decided to switch to the EBL also. I would need to make less wiring changes and I like the tuning options.
Do you have the GM fuel rails? If so then I have a few questions since my bought the ram jet manifold off of ebay, and have to fabricate the fuel rails and lines myself.
Is the stock fuel rail flush against the manifold or is there a spacer? Also, what is the width of the stock fuel rail? I've attached a picture for reference.
Thanks,
Lou
I did some research, and I decided to switch to the EBL also. I would need to make less wiring changes and I like the tuning options.
Do you have the GM fuel rails? If so then I have a few questions since my bought the ram jet manifold off of ebay, and have to fabricate the fuel rails and lines myself.
Is the stock fuel rail flush against the manifold or is there a spacer? Also, what is the width of the stock fuel rail? I've attached a picture for reference.
Thanks,
Lou
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
Dean,
I did some research, and I decided to switch to the EBL also. I would need to make less wiring changes and I like the tuning options.
Do you have the GM fuel rails? If so then I have a few questions since my bought the ram jet manifold off of ebay, and have to fabricate the fuel rails and lines myself.
Is the stock fuel rail flush against the manifold or is there a spacer? Also, what is the width of the stock fuel rail? I've attached a picture for reference.
Thanks,
Lou
I did some research, and I decided to switch to the EBL also. I would need to make less wiring changes and I like the tuning options.
Do you have the GM fuel rails? If so then I have a few questions since my bought the ram jet manifold off of ebay, and have to fabricate the fuel rails and lines myself.
Is the stock fuel rail flush against the manifold or is there a spacer? Also, what is the width of the stock fuel rail? I've attached a picture for reference.
Thanks,
Lou
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
Lou, Here is a link to the fuel rail stock that I used.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dash-...Q5fAccessories
The deminsions are at the bottom of the page. Hope this helps. Later, Dean
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dash-...Q5fAccessories
The deminsions are at the bottom of the page. Hope this helps. Later, Dean
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
Dean,
The only reason that I was checking on the dimensions of the rail and spacer, is that it sets the angle that the injecter sprays in the intake. It seems that this may not be an issue, since your setup doesn't seem to have any issues.
I bought a set up edelbrock fuel rails for $89 from Summit. They are .75" wide. I placed about 1/4" spacers to space out the rails. Base on your setup, I think this is too much.
Thanks, for the info. Let me know when you get some dyno info.
Lou
The only reason that I was checking on the dimensions of the rail and spacer, is that it sets the angle that the injecter sprays in the intake. It seems that this may not be an issue, since your setup doesn't seem to have any issues.
I bought a set up edelbrock fuel rails for $89 from Summit. They are .75" wide. I placed about 1/4" spacers to space out the rails. Base on your setup, I think this is too much.
Thanks, for the info. Let me know when you get some dyno info.
Lou
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I am working on a RamJet conversion for my 1988 Camaro. Is the stock hood going to clear the manifold? How did you attach the fuel lines to the stock hard lines? What fittings did you use?
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
after reading these few posts i would like to do this swap could someone post up everything needed to do the swap with part numbers.. i have a 91 tbi and would love to switch it to a ram jet
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I have Hedman Headers with Hooker catback exhause and a magnaflow cat, full GM RamJet engine (with the old EFI3 controller), Bowtie overdrive 700R4, Jegs Fuel Pump, Replacement front springs, Griffin Radiator, GM Accessory drive, KYB Shocks and struts, Energy suspension bushings and I am still in process.
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
I don't know how the stock RAMJET fuel rails connect, I machined my own out of a length of universal fuel rail stock. Hope this helps, Dean.
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
Hi, first thing is you would need is vortec style cylinder heads, RAMJET intake won't bolt to TBI heads. Don't know how well it would work on a 305 anyway. It was designed for a vortec 350. Then read the stickies, you'll find the part numbers there. Dean.
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
Nice pics! I should have used flexible hose like you did. It seems that I may have used the same Aeromotive regulator, mounted in the same location.
I'll post some pics later today. I used hard line for the fuel rail crossover by distributer. I may use flexible hose in the front of the engine, like Dean.
I'll post some pics later today. I used hard line for the fuel rail crossover by distributer. I may use flexible hose in the front of the engine, like Dean.
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
Dean,
Did you use thread sealant on your fuel rail to AN fittings?
It look like you used it on one of your pictures.
I attached a picture of my current build. I just installed my headers this weekend, so I still have a way to go.
Thanks,
Lou
Did you use thread sealant on your fuel rail to AN fittings?
It look like you used it on one of your pictures.
I attached a picture of my current build. I just installed my headers this weekend, so I still have a way to go.
Thanks,
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I did use thread sealant on all connections that have pipe threads. It really shows up in the pics, not so noticeable otherwise. My dyno date has been cancled. I'm saving $$ for my LS1 swap. I have a '66 ChevyII wagon thats going to get the Ramjet. By the way, the Ramjet Is running very good. Your looking good there Lou. Keep up the good work, it just takes time (and money). Later, Dean.
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Dean,
Good luck on the LS1 swap. It would have been nice to see how the two different engines would compare in the same car. I am hoping to hit the road in about a month. I can only do so much on the weekends. I finally got my EBL, so its time to do some rewiring.
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Good luck on the LS1 swap. It would have been nice to see how the two different engines would compare in the same car. I am hoping to hit the road in about a month. I can only do so much on the weekends. I finally got my EBL, so its time to do some rewiring.
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
HI, I just was wondering if I can expect a power increase. TBI has 2" bore, was on a Professional Products dual plane, idle to 5500. Engine is flat top 355,LT1 cam, 062 vortec heads and shorty headers. It made 280 RWHP on a Dynojet. About 5200 is all it would go. This was on a fresh set of Comp 981 valve springs. Do any of you think the Ramjet will be better. Thanks, Dean.
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
What do you think of me putting the ram jet intake on a 305? You are right about what you're saying..... But. Which is cheaper? Using the 305 I already have or BUYING a 350? I rather have fun with what I have already. If a connecting rod jumps out the oil pan, I be in the process of building a 400 small block. But til then... 305 keep it live. Lol. Thanks for your input. Most appreciated, but you still didn't tell me what you think of my combo. Force induction will take whateva performance flaw I have from not using a 350. What do you think?
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Re: TBI to Ramjet swap ?
What do you think of me putting the ram jet intake on a 305? You are right about what you're saying..... But. Which is cheaper? Using the 305 I already have or BUYING a 350? I rather have fun with what I have already. If a connecting rod jumps out the oil pan, I be in the process of building a 400 small block. But til then... 305 keep it live. Lol. Thanks for your input. Most appreciated, but you still didn't tell me what you think of my combo. Force induction will take whateva performance flaw I have from not using a 350. What do you think?
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When I (finally) tried to start my 88 Camari Ram Jet 350 I found that I have a fuel leak near the transmission cross member. Should I replace the whole line or just the bad section. Robber or hard lines? What diameter are the stock lines and should I go any bigger? I am not replacing the line from the pump to the tank.
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