stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
01-25-2013, 02:58 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
It's hard to find a company these days that isn't doing that. I was shocked when my scat crank showed up at my house in a box that had made in China printed on it.
01-25-2013, 02:59 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Never said Summit was. You asked if anyone sold it cheaper then Jegs or Summit, the two biggest names in performance parts. If someone is selling braided line cheaper then them, chances are its junk.
But like tuned said, some of summits branded stuff is good. Some of it is even name brand. I bought a summit prop valve years ago for my 55, peeled the summit sticker off and under it was engraved Wilwood.
But some of their stuff is cheap overseas crap.
Like I said. I would not cheap out on fuel line, esp. in a high pressure situation. By the time its on fire, your car will be toast.
But like tuned said, some of summits branded stuff is good. Some of it is even name brand. I bought a summit prop valve years ago for my 55, peeled the summit sticker off and under it was engraved Wilwood.
But some of their stuff is cheap overseas crap.
Like I said. I would not cheap out on fuel line, esp. in a high pressure situation. By the time its on fire, your car will be toast.
01-25-2013, 03:00 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Hopefully there not still making the weak ones that snap, don't get cheap with the hose see if its rated to withstand ethanol. There are some parts you shouldn't take risks on brake parts and fuel parts. I'll bring the s'mores lol.
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01-25-2013, 03:11 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
I understand and welcome your input. I'm not against spending a dollar when justified. I don't like to spend extra money just to have a big name printed on my part if there's not any difference in quality.
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01-25-2013, 03:21 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Johnny, it's tough to tell from your pic, but did you run the stock rubber line from the hard line to the FPR?
01-25-2013, 03:24 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
[quote= I'll bring the s'mores lol.[/quote]
Not funny! LOL
Not funny! LOL
01-25-2013, 03:31 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Yes.
Stock feed line into braided Y feeding both rails at the rear.
Out of both rails into regulator. Return on regulator was plumbed right to the stock return line.
Stock feed line into braided Y feeding both rails at the rear.
Out of both rails into regulator. Return on regulator was plumbed right to the stock return line.
01-25-2013, 03:36 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
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Transmission: 700R4/T-56
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Ok. Well thanks for all the help today guys. Thanks Tuned for all the part numbers. Now it's time to spend some cash.
, watch the hose vs the connectors and make sure they are designed to go together. 
01-25-2013, 11:01 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
Engine: 350c.i./305c.i.
Transmission: 700R4/T-56
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Haven't purchased yet but here's my list.
Hose: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-220984
Adapt stock lines to braided: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640820
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640830
Hose ends: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-220106
FPR fittings: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-495100
Hose: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-220984
Adapt stock lines to braided: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640820
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640830
Hose ends: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-220106
FPR fittings: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-495100
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01-26-2013, 10:33 AM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Update: I purchased a AFPR from another member here. Got a great deal on it. Thanks Jon. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...-pressure.html
Also, look what showed up this morning! I'm going to have it hot tanked monday, then i'll do some minor porting before powder coat.
Also, look what showed up this morning! I'm going to have it hot tanked monday, then i'll do some minor porting before powder coat.
01-26-2013, 11:09 AM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
Engine: 350c.i./305c.i.
Transmission: 700R4/T-56
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Total investment in the fuel rail kit and the regulator is $155. That's a savings of $105 over the Holley kit from Summit and that's not counting the $10 handling fee summit is going to charge.
01-26-2013, 06:31 PM
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01-26-2013, 06:37 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Thanks. I'm waiting to hear back from a member on some fittings before place my last order. Since buying the regulator my parts list has changed. It has two -8an ports i'll need adapters for.
01-26-2013, 07:02 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
Engine: 350c.i./305c.i.
Transmission: 700R4/T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.42/4.10
Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
For adapting to the regulator, would you go this route using the stock lines?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-460816
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-460814
Or this route directly to the regulator with braided line from the stock hard lines?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-670640
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-460816
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-460814
Or this route directly to the regulator with braided line from the stock hard lines?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-670640
01-26-2013, 07:08 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
Engine: 350c.i./305c.i.
Transmission: 700R4/T-56
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Option 2 needs these.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640820
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640830
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640820
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640830
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01-26-2013, 07:11 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
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01-27-2013, 02:00 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
I'm trying to figure out what injectors are currently in my car. They are solid black and the #'s are either 5p29530 or sp23530.
01-27-2013, 02:23 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
I'll look again. See if I can get a decent pic. In the meantime here's what I've got for space on the firewall. Not much!
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01-27-2013, 02:33 PM
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01-27-2013, 02:49 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
24 will be overkill if your just putting on the hsr, if you are dropping in the 350 113 headed
engine they will work but you need to reprogram your memcal. If its just a hsr swap you should even change to 89 tuning $6e to eliminate the csi and go with bosch 3 injectors those are your oem injectors.
engine they will work but you need to reprogram your memcal. If its just a hsr swap you should even change to 89 tuning $6e to eliminate the csi and go with bosch 3 injectors those are your oem injectors.
01-27-2013, 03:09 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
24 will be overkill if your just putting on the hsr, if you are dropping in the 350 113 headed
engine they will work but you need to reprogram your memcal. If its just a hsr swap you should even change to 89 tuning $6e to eliminate the csi and go with bosch 3 injectors those are your oem injectors.
engine they will work but you need to reprogram your memcal. If its just a hsr swap you should even change to 89 tuning $6e to eliminate the csi and go with bosch 3 injectors those are your oem injectors.
01-27-2013, 03:30 PM
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Car: 89 IROC Z/88 IROC Vert
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
I've had so many major repairs to do to this car since I bought it that I haven't gotten to the little things yet. But i'm starting on those now and the cooling system is high on the list.
01-27-2013, 05:02 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Just an FYI the pro products kit is a 10608. Used it on my HSR and made a custom crossover at the front that tucks it under the throttle body.
01-27-2013, 05:06 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Ordered the pro comp rails linked on page 1 of this thread with fittings and cross over included.
01-27-2013, 07:36 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Can anybody give me measurements from the Pro Comp rails (overall length, bolt holes from center to center). I want to know if they'd fit my Accel Pro Ram manifold.
01-28-2013, 01:36 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Edelbrock victor rails will fit for 80 bucks but you'd need external regulator which will run 80-150 depending plus fittings so in the end its not much of an alternative cost wise.
Some are having issues with holley Adj regulators, so a popular upgrade is buick grand national reg by kirban which is billet aluminum and fits the rails fine. 110 bucks or so last i heard. Could buy holley kit with non adjustable reg and upgrade to kirban
Some are having issues with holley Adj regulators, so a popular upgrade is buick grand national reg by kirban which is billet aluminum and fits the rails fine. 110 bucks or so last i heard. Could buy holley kit with non adjustable reg and upgrade to kirban
01-28-2013, 11:43 PM
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01-28-2013, 11:51 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Even in a 3rd Gen I don't think you would have a problem mounting a Aeromotive 13301 on the end of the HSR rail
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-13301/overview/
I plugged the original reg hole in the pass side rail
Line shown from rear port not used ,PO had dual feed to the rails
return line would be only line connected ,out the bottom
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-13301/overview/
I plugged the original reg hole in the pass side rail
Line shown from rear port not used ,PO had dual feed to the rails
return line would be only line connected ,out the bottom
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?
Update. I received all my pieces this morning. Initial thoughts on the rails were positive. Besides a couple dings and scrapes they look really good. There was no damage to the finish just a little rough before they were anodized I guess. Overall length is 12 3/8 inches. Distance between mounting holes measured center to center is 8 3/4 inches. That being said I grabbed a spare set of injectors I had lying around and mocked them up. I had no issues what so ever. The injectors fit really tight and I had no clearance issues with the throttle body. Here are some pics. Excuse the extra long bolts. I didn't have time to run to the hardware store for shorter replacements.
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