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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 02:58 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
depending on what you are referring to, summit has parts they sell with there name on it made as cheap as possible with low standards overseas like many manufactures. Your car to take the risks on the fuel system.
It's hard to find a company these days that isn't doing that. I was shocked when my scat crank showed up at my house in a box that had made in China printed on it.
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by jas2730
Buying summit brand isn't what I would consider cheaping out.
Never said Summit was. You asked if anyone sold it cheaper then Jegs or Summit, the two biggest names in performance parts. If someone is selling braided line cheaper then them, chances are its junk.


But like tuned said, some of summits branded stuff is good. Some of it is even name brand. I bought a summit prop valve years ago for my 55, peeled the summit sticker off and under it was engraved Wilwood.

But some of their stuff is cheap overseas crap.

Like I said. I would not cheap out on fuel line, esp. in a high pressure situation. By the time its on fire, your car will be toast.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Hopefully there not still making the weak ones that snap, don't get cheap with the hose see if its rated to withstand ethanol. There are some parts you shouldn't take risks on brake parts and fuel parts. I'll bring the s'mores lol.

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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
Hopefully there not still making the weak ones that snap
Yeah, Hopefully.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Not trying to make you spend tons of cash, You did awesome on the hsr just trying to give you sound advice to consider.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:11 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

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Not trying to make you spend tons of cash, You did awesome on the hsr just trying to give you sound advice to consider.
I understand and welcome your input. I'm not against spending a dollar when justified. I don't like to spend extra money just to have a big name printed on my part if there's not any difference in quality.

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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Johnny, it's tough to tell from your pic, but did you run the stock rubber line from the hard line to the FPR?
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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[quote= I'll bring the s'mores lol.[/quote]

Not funny! LOL
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

sorry, Ill wait for the blaze to answer It looks like he did and you could use name brand here Fragola 491962 and 491963.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Yes.

Stock feed line into braided Y feeding both rails at the rear.

Out of both rails into regulator. Return on regulator was plumbed right to the stock return line.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:36 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
Yes.

Stock feed line into braided Y feeding both rails at the rear.

Out of both rails into regulator. Return on regulator was plumbed right to the stock return line.
Ok. Well thanks for all the help today guys. Thanks Tuned for all the part numbers. Now it's time to spend some cash.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by jas2730
Ok. Well thanks for all the help today guys. Thanks Tuned for all the part numbers. Now it's time to spend some cash.
need my swiss paypal account email , watch the hose vs the connectors and make sure they are designed to go together.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

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need my swiss paypal account email , watch the hose vs the connectors and make sure they are designed to go together.
Sure! It's always more enjoyable spending someone elses money.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

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Sure! It's always more enjoyable spending someone elses money.
Thats what my wife says about my money lol
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 11:01 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Haven't purchased yet but here's my list.

Hose: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-220984

Adapt stock lines to braided: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640820
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640830

Hose ends: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-220106

FPR fittings: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-495100

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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Update: I purchased a AFPR from another member here. Got a great deal on it. Thanks Jon. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...-pressure.html

Also, look what showed up this morning! I'm going to have it hot tanked monday, then i'll do some minor porting before powder coat.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Total investment in the fuel rail kit and the regulator is $155. That's a savings of $105 over the Holley kit from Summit and that's not counting the $10 handling fee summit is going to charge.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Great to see the stealth ram came, you got an amazing deal!
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Thanks. I'm waiting to hear back from a member on some fittings before place my last order. Since buying the regulator my parts list has changed. It has two -8an ports i'll need adapters for.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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nice , I like the bonus gift green chew bone.
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

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nice , I like the bonus gift green chew bone.
Lol. You don't know how long it took me to get 3 pics without my dog in them. I decided to live with the chew toy.
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

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Lol. You don't know how long it took me to get 3 pics without my dog in them. I decided to live with the chew toy.
I know thats why I pointed it out
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
I know thats why I pointed it out
For adapting to the regulator, would you go this route using the stock lines?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-460816

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-460814

Or this route directly to the regulator with braided line from the stock hard lines?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-670640
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

since its your money my vote is number 2 the 670640.
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
since its your money my vote is number 2 the 670640.
Option 2 needs these.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640820

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-640830

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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

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For #2 I need 2 of these as well.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-497208
Option 1= $11. Option 2= $42.

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I'm trying to figure out what injectors are currently in my car. They are solid black and the #'s are either 5p29530 or sp23530.
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don't recognize those numbers.
could it be 5-235-301 ?

or the center pic ?

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I'll look again. See if I can get a decent pic. In the meantime here's what I've got for space on the firewall. Not much!
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Here ya go.
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Looks like 5235301.
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19#hr old 85-88 305 injectors
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
19#hr old 85-88 305 injectors
Amazing the amount of search results I get when using the right #'s.
Do I need to upgrade? I have a set of 24# lying around but i'm sure that would be overkill.
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

24 will be overkill if your just putting on the hsr, if you are dropping in the 350 113 headed
engine they will work but you need to reprogram your memcal. If its just a hsr swap you should even change to 89 tuning $6e to eliminate the csi and go with bosch 3 injectors those are your oem injectors.
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

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24 will be overkill if your just putting on the hsr, if you are dropping in the 350 113 headed
engine they will work but you need to reprogram your memcal. If its just a hsr swap you should even change to 89 tuning $6e to eliminate the csi and go with bosch 3 injectors those are your oem injectors.
I will be getting a tune. The car doesn't run quite right. It stalls sometimes and the highest water temp i've seen is 140. Mods are hot cam, edlebrock shorties and y, holley afpr, no cat, and a 3inch Hooker catback.
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

wow do you even have a thermostat
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Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
wow do you even have a thermostat
I'm suspecting not. When I do the swap I'll find out. With the cold temps recently the gauge won't even budge when driving. Makes for a cold ride with no heat being made.
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Originally Posted by jas2730
I'm suspecting not. When I do the swap I'll find out. With the cold temps recently the gauge won't even budge when driving. Makes for a cold ride with no heat being made.
Also, the fans are wired to come on with the ignition.
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You might want to rewire it back to stock and have the ecm control the fans there set kinda high turn on at 226F.
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
You might want to rewire it back to stock and have the ecm control the fans there set kinda high turn on at 226F.
I've had so many major repairs to do to this car since I bought it that I haven't gotten to the little things yet. But i'm starting on those now and the cooling system is high on the list.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Just an FYI the pro products kit is a 10608. Used it on my HSR and made a custom crossover at the front that tucks it under the throttle body.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Ordered the pro comp rails linked on page 1 of this thread with fittings and cross over included.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Can anybody give me measurements from the Pro Comp rails (overall length, bolt holes from center to center). I want to know if they'd fit my Accel Pro Ram manifold.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by zraffz
Can anybody give me measurements from the Pro Comp rails (overall length, bolt holes from center to center). I want to know if they'd fit my Accel Pro Ram manifold.
I can let you know when mine arrive Tuesday.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
Edelbrock victor rails will fit for 80 bucks but you'd need external regulator which will run 80-150 depending plus fittings so in the end its not much of an alternative cost wise.

Some are having issues with holley Adj regulators, so a popular upgrade is buick grand national reg by kirban which is billet aluminum and fits the rails fine. 110 bucks or so last i heard. Could buy holley kit with non adjustable reg and upgrade to kirban
Link to this Buick reg? I have a Hurricane and ProComp rails (the rails suck) and was hoping to mount the reg right to the rails.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:43 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

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Link to this Buick reg? .
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...regulator.html
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Originally Posted by woody80z28
was hoping to mount the reg right to the rails.
Even in a 3rd Gen I don't think you would have a problem mounting a Aeromotive 13301 on the end of the HSR rail
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-13301/overview/
I plugged the original reg hole in the pass side rail


Line shown from rear port not used ,PO had dual feed to the rails
return line would be only line connected ,out the bottom


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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Are those aftermarket runners on there now? If So, I'm interested!
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Re: stealth ram alternative fuel rails?

Update. I received all my pieces this morning. Initial thoughts on the rails were positive. Besides a couple dings and scrapes they look really good. There was no damage to the finish just a little rough before they were anodized I guess. Overall length is 12 3/8 inches. Distance between mounting holes measured center to center is 8 3/4 inches. That being said I grabbed a spare set of injectors I had lying around and mocked them up. I had no issues what so ever. The injectors fit really tight and I had no clearance issues with the throttle body. Here are some pics. Excuse the extra long bolts. I didn't have time to run to the hardware store for shorter replacements.
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