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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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Can someone Photo-chop a hood for me???

Can some one photshop a 2 1/4 cowl hood onto my car for me, with the same paint scheme??? I would really appreciate it. If possible, try to use a cowl hood that extands back toward the wipers.

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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 10:52 PM
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This one too if you want..

just curious to see what it would look like from this angle.

NOT a must tho.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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Please somebody quick, photo shop SOMETHING on that hood...
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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Hey buddy...

What are you trying to say........

At least it's functional dam*it!!!!! ( I think it looks cool too )
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 12:04 AM
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If you want my personal opionion, it just looks cheap and tacked on. You're car puts out 330hp? And the car is extremely nice, it just seems cheapened with that plasticy looking hood scoop, like something you would get out of a sears catalog and glue on. I'm not a big fan of cowl hoods but that would look much better....an SS hood would be EXTREMELY nice.
And trust me, after taking fluid dynamics, I know that hood scoop doesn't do much at all.
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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Ok...

First off, everyone has an SS hood. This hood is still not done yet, I haven't glassed it in, it is pop rivited for now. After it's glassed, it won't look tacked on, like it is.

Second: the scoop doesn't do much??? Thanks for your opinion but you are wrong. Besides the car running about 30 degrees cooler, the air that gets PUSHED into the scoop and the air cleaner is much, much cooler = a ram air effect and colder air = more horsepower. Just because it is not a sealed ram air does not mean that the scoop is not functional. Just think of a shaker hood, those are functional and the scoop open end is pointed the other way!

I didn't ask for comments on the existing hood but rather a photo shop job of a cowl hood to see if I'd like it more.
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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Re: Ok...

Originally posted by 330hp_91RS

Second: the scoop doesn't do much??? Thanks for your opinion but you are wrong. Besides the car running about 30 degrees cooler, the air that gets PUSHED into the scoop and the air cleaner is much, much cooler = a ram air effect and colder air = more horsepower. Just because it is not a sealed ram air does not mean that the scoop is not functional. Just think of a shaker hood, those are functional and the scoop open end is pointed the other way!
Right, I guess I'll just throw out everything I learned in four years of Mechanical Engineering, particularly my Fluid Dynamics class, and go on your high school ingenuity.

Cold air, yes, RAM AIR, NO. There's no ram air effect. None, zero, zilch. With a scoop that size air will flow over the scoop before it actually flows into it. You might get a *slight* ram air effect at about 120mph-130mph, and at that you'd get a WHOPPING 2 or 3 horsepower....all of which would be more than compensated by the increased horsepower it would take to push your car through the air at that speed due to a higher coefficient of drag. If the hood is facing the other way it's NOT ram air but it's taking advantage of the high pressure area at the cowl, or base of the window. When ever air "bends" or changes direction it creates a high pressure area, thus there is a high pressure area at the base of your windshield.

If you like your scoop, great. Just don't keep it on there strictly for performance reasons...because they are minimal if present at all. If you really want the most advantageous cold air without increasing the drag on your car, take it from somewhere where you already have an opening, like the fog light area.
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by MikeDwhoROCZImports
And trust me, after taking fluid dynamics, I know that hood scoop doesn't do much at all.
WTF are you talking about man?? let's hope you didn't have to pay for any of those classes. Having a scoop on your hood (a functional one, in case you're confused) does actually make a notable difference. Running your car cooler which is the whole point of a scoop, by grabbing cooler air. Will free up power that you would otherwise not have if your car was running hot. I highly doubt that people would keep putting scoops on their cars for years if it didn't have an advantage.


Tim:rockon:
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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So what if its not "Fluid Dynamic"? Neither is the whole front of the car, and i like it that way, otherwise our 3rd gens would look just like all the other cars coming out now.. 91 rs i like the look of your car, its different from all the others i've seen, this ones for you

Later..
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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HIGH SCHOOL???

I guess you did some research on me eh....

I am a Junior in College smart Guy.

High school ingenuity.....

I've done every mod to that car that has been done, paint, motor mods, everything. I guess my High school ingenuity goes a long way.

Do me a favor since you are not doing any PHOTO-CHOPPING, don't reply anymore.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by scrawnywhiteguy
WTF are you talking about man?? let's hope you didn't have to pay for any of those classes. Having a scoop on your hood (a functional one, in case you're confused) does actually make a notable difference. Running your car cooler which is the whole point of a scoop, by grabbing cooler air. Will free up power that you would otherwise not have if your car was running hot. I highly doubt that people would keep putting scoops on their cars for years if it didn't have an advantage.


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Tim buddy. You're a retard. If you read my post I said nothing about it not "grabbing" cold air, I said it has NO ram air affect. I hope you didn't pay anything for your english classes because you still can't read.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 12:30 AM
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Re: HIGH SCHOOL???

Originally posted by 330hp_91RS
I guess you did some research on me eh....

I am a Junior in College smart Guy.

High school ingenuity.....

I've done every mod to that car that has been done, paint, motor mods, everything. I guess my High school ingenuity goes a long way.

Do me a favor since you are not doing any PHOTO-CHOPPING, don't reply anymore.
JUNIOR COLLEGE. That's basically the same as a high school education. See how far that get's you in the real world smart guy.

"Paint, motor mods," like I said, I knew how to do all that crap in high school. Mechanical Engineering in a REAL college tell you how to design your own crap and for what reasons, now how to bolt someone else's engineered parts onto your own car like any retarded mokey could do...
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by Rage13
So what if its not "Fluid Dynamic"? Neither is the whole front of the car, and i like it that way, otherwise our 3rd gens would look just like all the other cars coming out now.. 91 rs i like the look of your car, its different from all the others i've seen, this ones for you

Later..
WTF?!?! "Fluid dynamic" is the name of a class, not an adjective. And other cars are no more AERODYNAMIC (if that's even what you mean) than ours...just adding a scoop will make it LESS aerodynamic.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by scrawnywhiteguy
I highly doubt that people would keep putting scoops on their cars for years if it didn't have an advantage.


Tim:rockon:
By the way, people, being the automotive manfacturing companies, don't put crap on F-body's because they have an advantage, they put crap on the cars because the general public doesn't know SHlT and will pay because of it. You think the RAM air F-body is any faster than a regular Trans-Am!?!? You're the douchebags that pay an extra grand falling for a marketing scheme...

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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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Get the Hell off this thread...

You my friend are a retard who cannot read.

I'm do NOT go to a Junior College, I am a Junior ( 3rd year for the mentally challenged) at a private liberal arts institution. Kiss my a$$ and lay off.

By the way, the UTI graduates are not always that smart.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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Re: Get the Hell off this thread...

Originally posted by 330hp_91RS
You my friend are a retard who cannot read.

I'm do NOT go to a Junior College, I am a Junior ( 3rd year for the mentally challenged) at a private liberal arts institution. Kiss my a$$ and lay off.

By the way, the UTI graduates are not always that smart.
Ahhhhhhh, liberal arts, that explains EVERYTHING.

When I was a freshman, my calculus professor actually used liberal arts degrees as an example of how limits and derivatives work.

"The limit of an engineering degree as it approaches zero is a liberal arts degree."
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 03:27 PM
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Hey you guys, chill out! Where here to admire or answer questions that we all have. I own a 91' z-28 and have a ram air hood on it. No, it will not help the power any. I may have gained 3 or 4 horsepower but who's going to notice that. The reason many of us go for the ram air is pure cosmetic! Now all the guy did was ask to photshop a different hood on, how did this get in to are educations? Although I have to admit, mister chief engineer has to pull his head out of his ***. Just because you've got a degrre doesn't mean you can build up any better of a car than we can. I'm currently attending law school which has absolutly nothing to do with cars but I'd say that I can turn a wrench just as good as the next person. Where all here to help each other!
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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Thanks....

Liberal Arts explains it huh.....

Well, Mechanical Engineering school explains why you think you can build a car better than all of us...
What do you drive by the way??

Oh and I go to one of the top Universities in the West for the business program....., but who cares????
I don't, that has jack sh*t to do with a photoshop job on a cowl hood on my car.

I'll ask once more.... If you are not going to do the photoshop job, DO NOT REPLY WITH ANYMORE STUPID BULLSH*T ANYMORE. GOT IT!!!!

THANKS!!

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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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Re: Re: HIGH SCHOOL???

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JUNIOR COLLEGE. That's basically the same as a high school education. See how far that get's you in the real world smart guy.
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What exactly do you do in your job there smarty pants??? I'm dying to know. As far as the Real World goes, My father and I own a 15,000 square foot body and paint shop, that's how far I've already gotten in the world.

Are you just pissed cause my 'tacky' scoop on my car still makes my car look better than yours?? Don't waste your time with envy here, I wanted help, not criticism.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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I bet I can **** further than anyone

Seriously though, if a guy has a degree in mechanical engineering then he obviously knows soemthing, and if he says that scoop has minimal effects I'll believe him, i'm an accounting major, I can't figure whether to debit or credit the scoop.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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As a precision engineer, i cant comment!
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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As a precision engineer, i cant comment!

I also want a Maserati Bi Turbo, as well as my Camaro, am i ill?
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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MikeDwhoROCZImports is right about the whole ram-air thing... you might see some gain, but the best place for ram air is where the fog lights are (correct me if I'm wrong)

the main reason that scoops like that were used was for cosmetics...

Great looking car 330hp_91RS!! I've always like the way those colors look on your car
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 05:39 PM
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Hah...

LOL MARK!!!

I agree that the best palce for the ram air is thru the fog light and that that is where you will see optimal horsepower gains.

I run an open element ( carb) and I'm not gonna spand 150 bucks for a ram air box. There are much better things I could spend 150$ on to get more than 10 -15 horsepower.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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Anyone plan on photochopping that hood on??? hahahhaah id like to see it
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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Just because you've got a degrre doesn't mean you can build up any better of a car than we can.
No, but it does mean I know better than to think that hood has any kind of "ram air" effect, which is the point I was making.

ALL I was saying is that if you're going to keep the scoop, keep it because you like the way it looks, not because of performance gains. I would say the same thing to anyone who bought an SS or RAM AIR II hood as well, except they would possibly gain more performance due to weight loss and better weight transfer if the fiberglass hood was substantially heavier.

I do not have a degree, but I am in my senior year and have taken most of my core classes.

And excuse me for ragging on Junior college or your major or whatever, I was a bit intoxicated just getting back from a hockey game.

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Ironicly, the hood will work best by taking air from the rear of it, at the base of the windscreen (there is a high pressure area there) although this wont be especialy effective on a thirdgen, as they are more aerodynamic than most.
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