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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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Car: 87 Formula/ 00 Xtreme
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Got tires ?

For $405 (for all of them) delivered to my door, I'm not going to complain
I think these will look pretty good on my 'bird even if it is just sitting in my garage. (sorry to post nonsense.. I'm just happy to finally have both cars sitting on 'good' tires for once).
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 11:39 PM
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tirerack.com ???
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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What are they? I can quite read the raised type on the sidewall.
What size? Where'd you get them?
Let us know what you think of them when you get a few miles on them.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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1991tealRS.. you nailed it.. tirerack.com. I ordered them yesterday (thursday) and got them tonight (friday).

NT.. they are Kuhmo ESCTA 711s for $55/ea. They are stock size 245/50-16... all I know is they can't be at all worse then the Cooper Cobras (wheels with no tire have more traction) that I was driving on (and are flat now). A few of you were amused (along with myself) by the start of my bad tire luck by the pic of the vice-grips I picked up in one of my tires (formerly on my camaro)



After that I developed a slow leak in the other rear (matching) tire (both on the 'bird now and the 'birds wheels are on the camaro) and, what finally set me off is I went out to go to 'work' the other day and had yet another flat because there was a drywall screw in my tire. In a mood swing.. I said screw it and just ordered enough tires to cover all bases.
I really dislike directional tires but, at $55 a corner.... I can make an exception
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 09:27 AM
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yeah tirerack is a beast!!

nice looking tires!
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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Car: 88 Formula, 04 CTS-V, 06 Commander
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Nice tires! and a better price. But if you dont mind my asking, why 6, and not the complete 8? Also what did they charge you for shipping? You might have just picked out my next tires.

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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by KZad
if you dont mind my asking, why 6, and not the complete 8? Also what did they charge you for shipping?
I don't mind but that's funny.. the UPS guy asked me the same question I only bought 6 because the front (sumitomo from TR) tires are still in very good condition.. I don't know why the backs seem to wear so quick though

Shipping works out to be roughly $60 for the 6 tires.
6 tires@55=330+5% (since I live in the same state as TR)=346.50 and I paid $406 to my door. TR has a thing that will give you a shipping total to your door w/o having to actually order or call them.
I just dropped the vice-grip tires off to have a one of the new pair put on. That's one good thing about having 2 sets of wheels... no sitiing around and waiting
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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You seriously picked up vice grips? How? Where? That is a first for me! You're luck you did'nt blow a tire and reck.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:16 AM
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Nice!! Wish I could get shipping prices like that!!
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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Car: 88 Formula, 04 CTS-V, 06 Commander
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Transmission: 5 spd, B&M Short Throw
What's the latest? Any opinions on your ECSTA 711's??? I am ready to buy tires, and wondering what you think of them.

Kurt
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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I have the kumho ecsta 712's and I love them. They are by far the best handling tire I have ever purchased. They are great in wet weather as well as dry, but I am not sure about snow yet. Had them in it once, but I was very careful didn't really push it, I had my children in the car. But they don't have much of a snow pattern.
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by deadbird
I don't mind but that's funny.. the UPS guy asked me the same question I only bought 6 because the front (sumitomo from TR) tires are still in very good condition.. I don't know why the backs seem to wear so quick though

Shipping works out to be roughly $60 for the 6 tires.
6 tires@55=330+5% (since I live in the same state as TR)=346.50 and I paid $406 to my door. TR has a thing that will give you a shipping total to your door w/o having to actually order or call them.
I just dropped the vice-grip tires off to have a one of the new pair put on. That's one good thing about having 2 sets of wheels... no sitiing around and waiting
ehh, you could of told the UPS guy that you carry two full-size spares just to be on the safe side!
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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Car: 88 Formula, 04 CTS-V, 06 Commander
Engine: 305 TBI, LS6, 4.7 V-8
Transmission: 5 spd, B&M Short Throw
bad84z

Would you suggest that I get the 712's over the 711's? I can get them for:

711's: 55 a piece = $250.14 incl. shipping
712's: 83 a piece = $363.76 incl. shipping

Also you say that they are the best tires you ever purchased. What tires are you comparing them to? I saw their ratings on TireRack.com, and these tires almost put GoodYear GS-C's to shame.

Thanks,

Kurt
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by KZad
bad84z

Would you suggest that I get the 712's over the 711's? I can get them for:

711's: 55 a piece = $250.14 incl. shipping
712's: 83 a piece = $363.76 incl. shipping

Also you say that they are the best tires you ever purchased. What tires are you comparing them to? I saw their ratings on TireRack.com, and these tires almost put GoodYear GS-C's to shame.

Thanks,

Kurt
Well, I havn't tried the 711's, but I am sure it is like everything else, You have the top of the line (712's) then you have the lower end(711's) THe 712's have a higher speed rating and a completely different tread pattern. I know for a fact that the 712's are awesome, and if I had to do it all over, I would pay the extra 100 for the 712's no questions asked. I am comparing these tires to (futura gtx)These were on the rear of my car when I got it and they were in new condition. THese tires will not hold at all in the rain. The kumho's have much better traction wet or dry. (pirelli ss) These were on the front of my car, and they also did not handle as well as the kumho's. Here are some more tires I have tried (Kelly charger) (Cooper Cobra) (General, but I can't remember what model general tires they were) There are alot of good tires out there, but for the money, I dont think you will get a better tire than the kumho 712's. I love mine.
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Awesome, thanks.
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