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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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The Sleeper!!!

I got a chance to snap a few new shots of my car. I just installed some pillar guages and did a bunch of other little cosmetic things. Any opinions welcome. ALSO** I plan on buying some black GTA crosslace wheels. How do you think they will look?? I'm lowering the car a good bit and doing a bunch of susp. work on it now.







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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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nice lookin car, hey ur parked in the oppsite direction
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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its looking good!
What wheels you got on there now?
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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me no see X
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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awesome X's :lala: :lala: :lala:
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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**** damn ****!!!!!!

I hate village photos.

alright Im done......****ers.....here they are.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:13 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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nice pictures.......i like the scenery and wet road.....looks cool
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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Aren't you the one with the fiberglass firebird hood with the TA vents? I've got some questions if you are.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:31 PM
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What is under the hood? You say sleeper......


Looks good
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:35 PM
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Very nice pics, the wet road shots look cool
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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looks good. nice color, i think the gta rims will look great.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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somehow I find it hard for camaro's and firebirds to be sleepers... now if it were a pinto or something hehe!
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 05:00 AM
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Looking good! I really like that color. What gauges do you have in the dual pod?
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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Looken Sexy..keep up the good work! :hail:
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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That looks sharp. The guage bezels are neat. I like how you put that rpm guage in the stock location than rather on top of the dash.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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i like the tach mounting job that looks nice. over all the car is looking good.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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Nice place for the shift light. What does the car run?
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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First off thanks for all the compliments.

Aren't you the one with the fiberglass firebird hood with the TA vents? I've got some questions if you are.
Nope. Sorry. Mine is the stock Firebird SE hood it came with. I plan on buying a 4" cowl soon though.

What is under the hood? You say sleeper......
Read the sig. I have alot more plans coming up though.

Looking good! I really like that color. What gauges do you have in the dual pod?
I have transmission temp and Vac/boost. The boost guage i got for $5. Its perfect for tuning the carb, setting timing, and just watching what the car is doing.

Nice place for the shift light. What does the car run?
Well since I've done alot of modding I'm not sure. Before I worked the heads and added the new valve train, added the aluminum rad, tranny cooler, wires, fuel line, and alot of tuning I ran a 9.1 at 77mph in the 1/8 with a 2.1 60ft( roughly a low 14/high 13). This was on June 5 (very hot out), and I had a bad intake leak and exhaust leak. I know the car is MUCH faster now but I don't want to say until I'm sure. I've been modding the suspension more than anything lately. I plan on making the car a G machine rather than a drag car.

So far i plan on buying a 4" cowl, getting some GTA rims, and lowering the car a good bit. But I have to get a new exhaust before the slam.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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thats the name of my team!!
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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I wanna see some pics of the 265 meats you've got on the rear. Do they tuck into the wheel well nicely? Any probs?

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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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hey did anyone else notive the two mufflers coming back where its not normal on 3rd gens? So do you have dual exhaust from the motor back or whats going on and if it is dual exhaust can you get some pics of it from motor back or at least tell how you did it and do you have clearence problems on the car and the ground? Thanks for any info ive never seen that before
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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ya, i noticed they look awfully close to flowmasters, id love to know how you got those to fit....
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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So do you have dual exhaust from the motor back...
Check out his sig. "Custom duals with H-pipe and 2 2 chamber flowmasters"
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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thats the name of my team!!
sleeper...no one will ever figure out that you mod you car..... um....i think the point of a sleeper is that know one knows that you have a fast car....in other words the big white lettering kind of gives that away....
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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1mean here ya go. the car sits a little high in these pics but they don't stick out beyond the fender wells at all.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 07:26 PM
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yeah i know everyone hates the name but get it right the decal is silver not white

awesome lookin car in pics like that mine would be wet cause unfortunately i have to fight with my dad over garage space and hes got some bad rides but theres an up side i get the driveway not the street like my moms truck
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Its a full dual exhuast from the headers back. The pipes run the stock location then split off and end before the differential. I have no clearance problems as the car sits. Right now though, I'm planning out a new custom system so I can lower the car.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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damn those are some wide meats are those 15 x 7's or 16 x 8"s
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 06:30 PM
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15-7 ha ha if you have ever seen a pic you will see that the tires are holding on to the rim for dear life....
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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right so 15x7 or 16x8???
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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they are 15*7s.
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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no **** how does it handle with such wide tires i'm buying a set of Z28 15x7's next week and i love the look of the wide tires like that nice car
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 06:50 PM
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They handle great. I love em. I can also launch much harder with em.
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by No4NJunk
Right now though, I'm planning out a new custom system so I can lower the car.
hehe, what are u going to be doing with ur old setup after u get the new.....any plans on selling it? and if u do....any time soon?
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 11:45 PM
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by the way...the system u have on there now is custom too, right?
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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hehe, what are u going to be doing with ur old setup after u get the new.....any plans on selling it? and if u do....any time soon?

by the way...the system u have on there now is custom too, right?
Yes I am selling it but Xceleratemaro has already asked for it. You can talk to him if you REALLY want it but hes pretty set on getting it. Yes, it is a custom setup.
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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oh, ok......u know how much it is going for.....or how much did u pay for the setup new?
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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It doesn't go for anything because its custom. The shop that did it only charged $300 and for the H-pipe was another $50.
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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300 aint bad at all......what is the purpose of the h pipe tho?
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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300 aint bad at all......what is the purpose of the h pipe tho?
An H-pipe acts as an equalizer between duals to maximize flow, horsepower, and add depth to the sound. It is placed at the hottest place in the I-pipes (typically where the cats would be located if the car had them).
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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where did you put two 2 chamber mufflers??? i want to do this to mine.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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Hate to rain on your parade because your car looks nice, but I don't think you and your "team" understand the whole concept of a "sleeper". A sleeper is a car that looks stock. Stock implies not lowered, no monster tach, no shift light, no gauges on the A-pillar, etc, etc. Like I said, nice car, but no sleeper. Might want to clue your "team" in too.
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