My car is going to be finished either today or tomorrow. But before I take it back and pay for everything, I wanted to make sure nothing is wrong with it that the shop should fix. I'll post a few pics here, the rest can be seen at http://www.geocities.com/jcargile2001/paint.html

The repainted the hood, roof, and rear quarter panels because the paint guy said he didn't like the way they came out. I think my biggest concern is that they took the RPO codes out of the center console to get the paint color, since I wanted to keep the factory color. My concern is that in the first pic, the color looks a bit different. Is it just the way the metallics ended up?

Thanks, Joe

 

I should also note that this was in the shop under fluorescent light, and that the car hadn't been buffed yet. It had only been out of the paint booth for like an hour.

 

Looks good to me. Have any plans or is it gonna stay stock looking? Me likes tho either will look real nice!

 

The car got shaved door handles, shaved antenna, and shaved body side molding. The interior is getting a (nearly) complete resto as well. Half of my car is in my living room, and half is at the body shop My biggest concern is that they didn't match the paint right. I still don't understand tho why from the front it looks like it does, and from the sides it looks darker. Is it just the way the light in the shop is hitting it?

 

can't tell from the pics....you'll have to wait to see it in person once they pull it out to the sunlight.....if it really is different, challenge them on it....i think it's just the camera and lighting playing tricks on the picture

 

i cant tell anything about the color until its in sunlight....


im going to shave my handles, locks and antenna too....

what kit are you going to use to open the door

 

You can't really tell with pictures. You have to actually see the paint in person and at different angles. My car looks like it has a mint paint job in pics, but it doesn't.

 

Remember, when they take your RPO codes for the paint, they are making that paint BRAND NEW....

It's not gonna match the color of your car before it got painted, because that paint has been fading for at least 12 years....

It will seem a bit darker and deeper....

 

Well...artificial florescent lighting adds a light green tint to the entire picture(I work in a photo lab). It should also lighten a bit after it drys completely. Also take into consideration your original paint was probably a little faded. But as every one else said, wait till it is out in sunlight to be sure.

 

Thanks for the replies guys. I was the one who took the pics, so I've seen it in person, and the shot of the car head on seems pretty acurate to how it was at the time. My big concern is that it seems like there's a lot more silver in the new paint, at least at the front. I guess I'll see in a day or two when I get the car back and get it in the sunlight. If it looks wrong, who is responsible and/or easier to get to fix it. The guy who painted it, or the paint shop that mixed the paint? Hopefully everything will be fine, I just want to be prepared when I get the car. Thanks again for all your help.

 

I'm using the autoloc 50 lb. kit, which is definently overkill. I know Redraif is using the VPA 35 lb. kit, and has had it for several years without a problem. Don't let anyone tell you that b/c we have heavy doors we need bigger solenoids. The weight of the door has nothing to do with how the solenoid works.

 

from what i can tell it looks really good.....my car is actually gettin painted as i type this ill post some pics of mine when i get it back

 

I realized that the pics the body shop took of my car before look like the same color as the after pics, so I guess it's just the light in the shop. I'm hoping I can pick the car up tonight if someone is going to be there, and then I'll have pics of the car all done. Thanks for all the help everyone

 

You said it looks like it has more silver in the front. You mean the metallic he prob didnt get it even its hard to do sometimes. On the last coat u have to mist the whole car by holdin the gun back father and sprayin a light coat over the car very fast. It will look alot duller that way but when u put the clear on nice and wet it turns out good.

 

I got the car back today but... there is dust in the paint EVERYWHERE! The painter tried to say that "there's always going to be dust in the paint" and then "the booth that I had to use was built in the 1950s and they never change the filters" and then said that the dust is just in the clearcoat and he'll sand it off and respray it. It's costing $1,500 just for the paint, and then another $650 for the body work. Is this all I should expect from a $1,500 paint job? I figured the car would come back spotless, not full of dust under the paint. Am I asking too much for too little money? Also, should I trust that if he resprays the clear in a different (hopefully better) booth, that there won't be any dust in it? To finally get my car back after all this time and have it look like this

 

I wouldn't accept anything noticable in the paint as far as contamination. Make him respray it until it looks good...or pay him the $319 macco charges...

 

I've already paid $750 towards it, so I'd really like to get this taken care of as opposed to having to live with it. I found a defect in the body work too, so I'm gonna have to call up those guys and tell them to fix it.

 

dirt can usually be sanded and buffed out if its just in the clear

 

How will I know if it's just in the clear?

 

Well there shouldnt be much in the paint cause u can sand that b4 u spray the clear. If its close to the surface it will def sand out if it looks pretty deep in the paint i doubt it

 

Well there's a few spots where it looks gray, like there was dust in the base coat that maybe came off before the clear went on. I'm gonna go take a pic of it here in just a second, so you can see what I mean. Thanks, Joe

 

that sucks really bad.. id make him do it over. if your payin that much money for paint i dont think u wanted dirt and dust with it too. tell the guy to change his filter too... i'm paraniod now bc i get my car back on monday and there better not be dust in my paint too.

 

If they get alot of dirt in it they dont know what they r doin or not takin there time i didnt paint mine in a booth i got some dirt but it all sanded out.

 

Here's a part of the fender.

 

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That's what I'm afraid of, is that even if this guy tries to do the clear again, that it's the painter that messed up, not the booth. I'm gonna take the car to a shop that did some other paint work for me a few years ago, and have them take a look at it. If they think it's cause of the booth that it was painted in, then I'll see if we can rent theirs to have my car resprayed. If they think it's the painter, well, I don't want to even have to go there.

 

do u have a pic that is a lil farther away maybe just showing the whole fender or the hood

 

Here's the headlight buckets.

 

Here's the fender. From a distance, it looks great, but up close, you can see all the bubbles.

 

Bubles thats def not good if its dirt in the clear u can actually see the peice of dirt.Sounds like it wasnt prepped right or osmethin if u got bubbles if they r real small bubles that prob solvent pop and is cause by putting the clear on to think usually.

 

So sanding the clear and then respraying it would fix it? Is that the sort of thing that good painters never do and bad painters always will? I'm just trying to figure out if I should let this guy try and fix this, or tell him to stay away from my car.

 

When I pulled the cover off, and got a good look at the rear deck lid, well, this is probably the worst of it.

 

That dont look like it will come out but u can always wet sand it and see but u dont want to go through to the base. Why didnt he wet sand it

 

That looks like solvent pop...they may have not let the paint/clear coat flash long enough between coats, if the clear was to thick it would have runs which I cant see on your pics. Also you should wait atleast 30 days after painting a vehicle to wetsand and buff to allow the paint to fully cure and solvents to be released from the paint.
What brand of paint did they use (PPG, Dupont)?

Hope this helps.

 

mine said you could sand after it dries now i let it set that way for awhile to breathe. It kinda looks like the surface underneath wasnt prepped good and the paint didnt stick.

 

you can have it on to thick with out getting runs

 

I don't know what brand the paint is, the painter took the paint back when he found out he was gonna have to repaint the car. I don't think there's any runs in the paint, just the bubbles, etc. So if it wasn't prepped right, then the car needs to be taken down to the primer, right? Thanks for all the help guys, I can't wait to get this resolved and finally get my car back!

 

yeh looks like they r comin from underneath the base

 

I had a car repainted many years ago by a reputable shop in a downdraft booth with new filters. There was minimal dust in the clear at the end. The day after the car was painted, it was completely sanded and buffed to a outstanding shine.

I find that body shops today don't do much of the final sand and buff because of the time it takes (unless it's requested). It used to be part of the labor charge, but most shops don't do it any more under the typical charge.

 

OMG, this just keeps getting worse and worse. I thought the body shop hadn't fully sanded where the lock cylinder was, cause there was a little bubble there. Well, after a day of 100 degree california heat, the paint on the driver's door is bubbling. It's not even attached to the car, after it got warm, the bubble started getting bigger. This is how it is now. I'm just gonna get my money back, cause the car is gonna have to be stripped down to the primer again.

 

I had less problems with my macco paint job. No pealing and only one spot on the door where some trash got in it. They fixed it for me as well as all other things I requested fixed. 700 two tone with several dings being removed. I would defently get my money back, and tell them they had to pay to strip the car. I could get better results in my garage.

 

ahh man thats bad i had that happen on a little spot on my hatch but i cought it b4 i sprayed the base. On mine it did that when i guess the surface wasnt cleaned good enough and the duraglass didnt stick. Sorry about your luck man that sux and it always pays to use the good materials if he didnt i found that out the hard way also.

 

Boy that sucks... definitely make him fix it!

 

After all the problems I've found in the paint, I'm not sure if I trust this guy to try and fix it.

 

My brother's car has a maaco job on it, and the sad thing is, right now, his paint actually looks better than mine. They didn't sand anywhere, so there's a bunch of cracks under the paint in the front bumper, etc. and paint in places it shouldn't be. But at least his paint is pretty smooth and in one piece.

 

When you go and talk to them tell them you have seen maaco paint turn out better than that, That should make them realize how bad it is. An ways good luck fighting with them and hopefully you will come out without losing money.

 

Actually, I had the painter out when I first got the car back and it had all the crap in the paint, but not really any bubbling in the paint. He said "a maaco job is gonna be way worse than this". Um, yeah, sure, whatever. This guy said he used to work for this really good shop here in sacramento, but I'm stating to think that maybe he got fired from there cause he didn't know how to paint.

 

Yeah, time to get the money back from that shop.........That is just ridiculous....

Take it somewhere else, don't take it back to the same guy to fix the problems......

 

Some of those small spots is actually dirt underneath the paint. Most of it will come from cracks and crevices that they hit with the spray gun. The air will shoot it out from the cracks and it will come back down on top of the car as he paints over it. There is one thing you should do before you get your car painted and that is thoroughly, and i mean thoroughly clean the car including the door jams and whatnot. Either they didn't do too good of a prep job in cleaning it before they painted it, or their paint room is really really dirty. Either way, I would go to get my money back.

 

Dont trust them to fix it, but get your money back and tell them you hope they're happy they just lost a customer and a lot of money. That's BS