Hey,
Here is a question for all you camaro drivers out there, what is your opinion on taking out your driver's side high beam and running a air hose from behind the light to the air filter ( for TBI cars)? How do you think it looks? Do you think it helps on gas? I did this recently and it defently helps with your pick-up. The car seems to respond alot better. I cut a piece of mesh grill to cover the hole from the light. What is your take on this? Thanks,
for this will help me make an important decision.
Andy.

 

do you have a pic? i have heard that if you get the silverstars by sylvania that they are so bright it basically eliminates the needs for brights. if you do that then you can add another hose to the passenger side to add more air.

 

DOn't mean to offend you but I think it would looks pretty ghetto. The front of the camaro, specially the lights make it such a eautiful car.

 

check hawks link above they make a intake that replaces the stock air box, the one they have drops down in the hole behind the nose and can pull air in from the lower grill. still uses stock hoses and filter.

another note high beams are required safety device on our cars if you mod them you need another highbeam to get past inspection. unless you don;t need a inspection where you are.

 

sounds like a stupid mod for anyone that isnt on a racetrack. *shrug*

there is no such thing as ram air. there is such a thing as cold air.


i would find another source of cold air induction. you need your highbeam.

 

agreed....im removing my fog lights for a cai/ram air....much better idea imo not going to get you killed!

 

Yeah I think it would look pretty rigged. I'd just keep the light in and find some other way if you really must have CAI/ram air.

 

It would be real difficult to make it real clean.........

It's a good idea for those that never use the high beams, I know i haven't used mine in the past 2 years.......

Why not take out the parking lights, make the fog lights into blinkers......

Then place the air intake to each opening for parking lights and place some sort of mesh grill there......I'd be interested to see how it looks.....

 

If you ever see a camaro with no headlight in one of the pockets then you'll know it looks awful looking without there being 2 headlights there.

 

I think it will make your car look like a hockey player with missing teeth.

 

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For TBI cars? That's what he's asking about. And if they do make something like this, link please. I'd be interested in it too.

 

Thanks for the input. I wanted to see if everyone thought the way I did. I will only take it out when Im at the track, cause it works really well.

Also, there is so "ram-air", because the new grand-ams have ram-air boxes ( not talking about un-functional hood ), and WS6 have Ram-air hoods. I know you knew that, and Im not trying to start a mini feud over it. Just thought Ide put that in there.

I think my car looks like it is a hockey player w/ missing tooth also. It looks really funny, but it only took 2 seconds and made a big diffrence.

I have made a ram-air type before, where I ran two vacuum hoses from the side of an open element air filter down each side of engine to the lower air dam skirt ( one right under the radiatior), but took it off when I got my ATI supercharger. Now that it is sold, I should stick it back on.

Well, thanks for all constructive critisim, just made me assured that it did look really funny.

 

Ghetto.

 

Well.... the factory L69 motors did pick up their cold air from exactly the area that he's talking about, right over the headlights. Probably the most efficient air induction was from the area just under the windshield, but that won't help you with the FI. I'd do what the guy said about checking with Hawks, he seems to be a stand up guy. since you've opened this can of worms, would you also be using some type of cool can?

 

umm, while there IS a pontiac trademarked name "ram air"......


im just pointing out that no matter how fast your car will ever go, you will never generate a positive air pressure in your intake system from a forwared facing cold air intake.


the pontiac systems do pickup alot of nice cold air, and some are fairly unrestrictive..... but they do not "ram" more air into there... you cannot generate a positive pressure doing that.

 

Its all in the wording. Technically you are not ramming air in the engine. Thats what he was saying when Mr Dude said you're nto creating positive pressure. So yah, you are letting your engine suck up some nice cold air, but you arent ramming air in the engine...

 

Who thinks we should put a sticky up about this point? The idea of being at such a high speed that you could ram air to the point where it was exceeding what a vacuum could pull in by its self is insane...Youd have to be going something stupid like 250 mph? which you never will..."ram air" is a fantastic way to pull cold air in from outside but theoretically should have no improvement over a CAI placed in a spot where it could get an equivalent amount of cold air...

 

Ok, aside from the conceptual implementation, here's a quick chop; I think if you used something like the speedgrille material in place of a headlight it "could" look ok. Here's a pic just to give an idea of what it might look like with both high beams removed;

 

looks OK to me.

 

i pulled my high beams on my old 88 camaro, i will post pics when i get home.. i thought it looked good...

 

tis what the rycers do!
in some racing magazine i bought a few months ago they had a special thing on import racing or whatever and it was like a how to on your first time at the track and they said that with some cars if you remove the passenger side headlight assembally when you race it goes right to where the air intake thing is and will give you cold air....lol rycer

 

Well cold air is proven to add horsepower... so i wouldnt really throw the **** term around. I have a turbocharged 4cyl that would whip alot of people around here... Not trying to be a dick, but i am partial to people throwing around the **** term...

 

stay away from weddings and Uncle Ben then...

 

courtesy of racingjunk.com

 

ghetto? I still see hi-beams...

 

i think that i would seal the aircleaner to the cowl and have the cowl induction functional then to have a ramair setup like that, it seems like it would be more restrictive like that.

 

Just a word to you yung'uns, Ford was doing this back in 1964 on their thunderbolt (ford fairlane, 427 engine) factory race cars. It's not *****, and it's not anything new, and it does work. The only question is how to make it work and be street legal. Back in the late 60's Oldsmobile used to pick up cold air from under the front bumper, they ran 2 ducts into the carb plenum. The Z28'z used the cowl hood, and is still to this day, one of the better cold air designs.