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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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anyone have a virtual wire free clean looking firewall? like this?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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I wish. Although, I still want a setup like Monte had - one giant connection plate that you can disconnect everything at the firewall with.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Man I wish! I studied this subject long and hard last winter when I had my motor out. Our firewalls leave much to be desired. I took some measurements and did some exploritive surgury to see what could be done. Most of the custom hotrods out there with smooth firewalls have their brake boosters either mounted under the car or up in the dash area. This seems like very daunting task with our cars. Then there is the issue with the heater box/blower.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Mine is getting pretty damn close to that. When I had the motor out last spring, I patched all the holes where the heater used to be. Also took off the wiper motor and patched that. I have a 4th gen wiper motor inside the wiper cowl, still have a little work to do on one of the wiper arms and the wires but other than that its done. I still want to move the relays to somewhere else. I looked at moving the booster and that would be a huge PIA. Originaly I was going to skin the firewall with a thin sheet of polished aluminum, but that wasnt working out to well so I said screw it and just painted it black to match the rest of the engine bay. When I get a chance I will post some pics.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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put them up....the booster is about the only thing i've opted to leave.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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ideally much like this...
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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this also shows some ideas....come on guys someone must have something clean out there??
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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PonyKiller.....I was wonering if that was possible...putting a wiper motor inside the cowl....hummmm now you got me thinking. I got caught in a hell of a rain storm coming home from Superfest this year with no wipermotor

Jeff..what are you going to do with the blower/ heater box? It doesn't look too bad painted body color like mine but it's sill an eyesore.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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it's gone...i don't have air and because of that no need for anything other then a working vent. the new motor makes more then enough heat and a nice sweater works in the fall.

looks so much better with a clean bay. just trying to figure out what to do with the drivers side as the relays and wiper motor are bothering me. few more kinks with the harness and the motor/stb is all you'll see.

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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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You took out your heater box/blower too!! Holy pete.....did you just weld a plate over the opening?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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it isn't complete...something like that though yes, i'm flushing everything to get it as clean as possible.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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I think you should go all out and find a way to hide the brake booster/master cylinder Then tell us how you did it.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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man that is awesome... what about the wiper motors and such?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Youve seen mine I got half of it done
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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put a good picture up again....i'm sure many would like to see it. i'm having a hard time figuring out how to make the wiper functional and removing the motor as well as relocating all of those relays. the dash leaves much room to be desired. there just isn't any room to move the brake booster either. one would need something completely different. electric brakes of sorts.

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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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hrm damn.. well at least with my cars even if you had a wiper motor mounted the wipers don't work anyways.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Heres some from last year don't have any good current ones not that there is much diff. I have a plug in the hole for the wiper motor since you have to have one in Illinois (never been hassled about not having it on though). After three days in the rain on the power tour its on the top of my list to take with me next year

Edit: Found some newer ones but it is still hard to see what it looks like because of the reflection






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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Yeah those wire looms are hideous monstrosities taking away from the art of an engine. They are just all over the place. Kind of hard to have a wireless looking engine bay running a computer controlled car with sensors.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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wow some killers bays!! :hail:
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:14 AM
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How do they keep the FI and still manage to stay that clean?
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 02:35 AM
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call me crazy but some of those bare firewalls look ugly. You need to have something to put there to an extent. I do agree theres too much wiring in our engine bays as stock its rediculous.

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 04:36 AM
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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I will try and post up some new pics this weekend.

I kinda agree with ddn69. I have a huge empty flat space where the heater box used to be and to some extent it looks kinda funny.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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If I can find my camera, I'll post mine. I smoothed the entire thing after I removed the A/C - heater, etc... I re-routed all of my wires through the firewall and then down the inside of the fenders for a completely clean appearance. I really want to find my camera, or at least someone around here that will let me borrow one. My new engine/ supercharger/ etc. is in and finished.

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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we'll lets see it already!

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by RU-QWIK
If I can find my camera, I'll post mine. I smoothed the entire thing after I removed the A/C - heater, etc... I re-routed all of my wires through the firewall and then down the inside of the fenders for a completely clean appearance. I really want to find my camera, or at least someone around here that will let me borrow one. My new engine/ supercharger/ etc. is in and finished.

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I have some of your older pics of when you first hide your wire looms and cleaned the engine bay up. I'll upload them for the people.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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i bet some of the carbed guys have some clean bays. Btw the guys who removed the ac did u also remove the whole box, and when you do , dont you lose the ability to use the vents and everything if you smooth the firewall.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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dont you lose the ability to use the vents and everything if you smooth the firewall.

Then again I didn't need heat in FLA. and always had the tops out on nice sunny days..

Now that I'm on Ohio I'm debating on a Non ac heater box I have laying around. or just a little plug in heater I see alot of people using
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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plug in?
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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Thats some impressive work RU-QUIK...I'd like to see that in person!
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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Anybody metalworked the inner fenders to get rid of the mounting pads for the wiper fluid and coolant tanks? I thought I saw someone's car around here that had the inner fenders all smoothed out....looked realy nice.
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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Anybody metalworked the inner fenders to get rid of the mounting pads for the wiper fluid and coolant tanks? I thought I saw someone's car around here that had the inner fenders all smoothed out....looked realy nice.
Ive seen that picture. Im tryin to look throough my collection I have and find it.
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quite a few cars like that.....mine included now. also rewelding the strut towers and smoothing them out.

here is a basic picture of what mine is coming out to be, it will be slightly cleaner but will have similar strut ideas. this is a nice setup.

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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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That looks nice....minus the flames

Let's see a pic of yours Jeff....even if it's not done.

Hey are you going to M9 at Stanton?
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i don't think i'll be there....can't find a stock tpi intake for a reasonable price. we'll see.
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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I have two complete sets of them setting on a shelf in my garage....what all are you looking for? Base, runners and plenum?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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i got a setup from my 87 also, who wants it
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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If only I could get this mess to look like that...

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If only I could get this mess to look like that...

that may be a mess but it's pretty
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
quite a few cars like that.....mine included now. also rewelding the strut towers and smoothing them out.

here is a basic picture of what mine is coming out to be, it will be slightly cleaner but will have similar strut ideas. this is a nice setup.

Thats my friends, he did a real nice job on it. Smoothed out the strut towers, rad support, frame rails, etc. Then cleaned up the firewall. Its a little more cluttered now with the turbo's but it still looks nice.
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Originally posted by 406TPI
Anybody metalworked the inner fenders to get rid of the mounting pads for the wiper fluid and coolant tanks? I thought I saw someone's car around here that had the inner fenders all smoothed out....looked realy nice.
I got the idea from the silver Camaro posted above and had mine smoothed this past summer. That was my one bragging right over Kandied's car (the mark by which all appearance mods are measured) ... but looks like that didn't last long!
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I got the idea from the silver Camaro posted above and had mine smoothed this past summer. That was my one bragging right over Kandied's car (the mark by which all appearance mods are measured) ... but looks like that didn't last long!
Looks nice Jeremy! That was the car I was talking about. Did you do the work yourself? (Speaking of the mounting pads) I was wondering if the metal can be pounded back down into shape or if it has to be cut out and a patch welded in.
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Thanks for the compliment I didn't do the work myself but I saw it in progress and know how it was done. For the smaller square pads, they cut each one diagonally in an X shape, flattened it out, trimmed the excess and welded the seams. For the large one on the drivers side, i'm not exactly sure where they cut it, but basically the same procedure was done. The welds were ground down then a thin layer of fiberglass was laid over the entire inner fender to smooth it out. I have a few in progress pics on my cardomain page and I could probably find more if there's something in particular that you wanted to see. If you decide to have a custom body shop do it, expect to pay approx $500 not including paint. My entire engine compartment was $1000.

I can't wait til I get the engine and everything in there to show a "finished" clean engine bay
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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Thanks for the compliment I didn't do the work myself but I saw it in progress and know how it was done. For the smaller square pads, they cut each one diagonally in an X shape, flattened it out, trimmed the excess and welded the seams. For the large one on the drivers side, i'm not exactly sure where they cut it, but basically the same procedure was done. The welds were ground down then a thin layer of fiberglass was laid over the entire inner fender to smooth it out. I have a few in progress pics on my cardomain page and I could probably find more if there's something in particular that you wanted to see. If you decide to have a custom body shop do it, expect to pay approx $500 not including paint. My entire engine compartment was $1000.

I can't wait til I get the engine and everything in there to show a "finished" clean engine bay
Jeremy, thats exactly how Pauls silver Camaro was done too I beleive... as far as cutting them in an X shape and flattening them out.
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