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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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interesting comparison (what would you take?)

Lets say all cars are the same price and same shape.


would you take a 1986 IROC Z LG4 305 AUTO ,loaded

over

a 1992 camaro RS L03 305 auto, loaded


Im gonna go with the 92 because

a better motor
upgraded dash
better interior overall
FI
updated skirts
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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I gave up my decent '85 Z28 TPI 305 for a close to mint '91 RS. I have regretted that decision ever since. For the difference between how much I paid for the RS and what I got when I sold the Z28, I could have got new wheels and paint for the Z and still had money left over for mods.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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"a better motor
upgraded dash
better interior overall
FI
updated skirts"

That is nothing in exchange for the handling of a true Iroc-Z
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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I would take the 86 just becaue its an Iroc The Rs may look better to some but the Iroc would out-handle and perform the RS. Also the Iroc will still be sweet looking with Iroc rims, 145 mph guage cluster, fog lights and "Camaro" Grill, Iroc hood etc.

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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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the Iroc cuz its an Iroc-z man. No brainer there. LOL, the motor problem can be fixed!
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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stock for stock my 92 rs handles just as good as my buddys 88 roc convert.1992s had 145mph speedos as well.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by mike83z-28
I would take the 86 just becaue its an Iroc The Rs may look better to some but the Iroc would out-handle and perform the RS. Also the Iroc will still be sweet looking with Iroc rims, 145 mph guage cluster, fog lights and "Camaro" Grill, Iroc hood etc.
im willing to be a l03 will outperform a LG4 and I bet stoc for stock the 92 had better tires lol
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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i would spend the money on a 89 GTA.....thats just me...
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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I'd pick the iroc it it was me. I've never been a fan of the 91-92 dash, and the L03 really isnt much better than the LG4.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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I'd take the IROC, even though its the LG4. I don't like the 90-92 dash and if its got the interior I had in my 92 RS, its hideous IMO.

And you can always swap over the ground effects someday
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Neither, just keep looking for anything but a 305. Trust me.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Even though they are both 305's, I still have to say the IROC. The RS's were just a big letdown all the way around. And like Metalli said, you can always switch the gfxs later. And of course the motor prob can be fixed as well. There are too many things the IROC's got standard that the RS didn't. JMO
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by Gnarley_Boarder
im willing to be a l03 will outperform a LG4 and I bet stoc for stock the 92 had better tires lol
eh maybe, it would be close thats for sure. But my 83 & 84 Z with an lg4 has taken out some 91-92 Rs's when it was basically stock
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by mike83z-28
eh maybe, it would be close thats for sure. But my 83 & 84 Z with an lg4 has taken out some 91-92 Rs's when it was basically stock
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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The IROC was the top performance optioned Camaro. The RS was the base model. 'Nuff said.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Gnarley_Boarder
stock for stock my 92 rs handles just as good as my buddys 88 roc convert.1992s had 145mph speedos as well.
The RS has a wider turning radius and did not come with 145mph speedos. That's the Z28.

I'd still pick the RS, because it looks better. You're going to end up replacing the suspension on either one anyway, so handling is out the door. Interiors can be changed to whatever you want. L03s also have a lot more tuning options than LG4s, if you're willing to learn how to program PROMs.

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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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true, if your gonna get an iroc, then get a higher end model like TPI cars 305 with a stick or L98. Those are the ones worth getting.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 01:36 AM
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How about both??????????There you go now were talking
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 03:17 AM
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I would take the 92 hands down.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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How about both??????????There you go now were talking
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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I would take the 92 hands down.
Same
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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92 No question.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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I would take the 92 also. Very easy to change the springs, sway bars, and add a wonder bar to make it handle like an iroc.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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a good thing is that the '92 will not come with bold 80's glamrock-style iroc decals on the doors, no offense
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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IROC all the way!
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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I'd get the IROC if I was just planning to do a few bolt-ons/maybe a camswap. Easier/cheaper to work on the LG4, probably better heads if I recall correctly. No TBI bullsh*t problems to deal with either. By 86 the LG4 was up to 165hp (if the tech data tables on this site are to be believed), only 5 down from the toilet bowl injection 305... Might be possible the IROC would have a posi rear too (not sure if the LG4s IROCs did very often or not)

With a set of headers, performer RPM intake, and a cheap 204/214ish duration cam it'd run pretty good for a 305.... You could do the intake/cam swap in one weekend, headers the next, no computer or TBI related worries.

If you're going to yank the motor and throw in a 350 or whatever the RS starts to look a little better. Otherwise I don't want anything to do with a 305 TBI car...

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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ray87Z
If you're going to yank the motor and throw in a 350 or whatever the RS starts to look a little better. Otherwise I don't want anything to do with a 305 TBI car...
Absolutely.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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why the RS over an Iroc for motor swap if both are same price/condition?

Iroc has better guage panels 145mph speed to Rs's 110 or 85mph. Better suspension stock although its gonna have to get replaced anyway eventually. Other than that, the fact that its an IROC is enough to sway my vote. Not some base RS car. LOL
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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I chose carb LG4 over FI because I wanted the lack of computer control. To each his own, I guess. It all depends on your needs.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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I would go with the 92 because it will more than likely have lower miles on the chassis and will be worth more in the KBB if he decided to sell later. I consider them the same as far as motor and suspension since both need to be changed/modified for the car to kick butt. The rest of it comes down to personal preferance.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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BASE rs? 91-92 RS came with a nicer body then any iroc aside from the hood.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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I chose carb LG4 over FI because I wanted the lack of computer control. To each his own, I guess. It all depends on your needs.
wasn't the LG4 a computer controlled carb?
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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Funny considering that I basically made this choice the week that I bought my car.

RS Hands down. Here's why...

I wouldn't leave either motor in for long, and the suspension on both cars needs to be braced and upgraded to get my approval. In the end it comes down to looks. The 92 RS's with the dark interiors look so much better than the IROC's IMHO. Not to mention the surprise factor that is found if/when the RS runs mid 11's.

Ground Effects + Cleaner Dash + Better Speedo + 25th Anniversary Badging = Happy Driver.

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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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92 RS. Looks much better, and get this, BETTER performance all around. If the RS has the 16 inch wheels, you'll have the "IROC" suspension already, sway bars and all, plus it's just plain newer and will most likely have less milage.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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Do the new. Who keeps stock suspension anyway? Love the new style gfx. I will be swapping some on my 88 some day. LOTS of cool guage setups available for 91-92 cars.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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IROC!!!!


For many reasons.....1st looks
-91-92 ground effects are overdone(Personal preference)
-Iroc wheels own you
-Nice hood
-fog lights/nice grille


Performance
-wonder bar
-higher steering ratio
-if you are staying carb, you don't have the TBI computer to get rid of
-could have posi and four wheel disks


Chris
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