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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Should I buy it?

For anyone who followed my past thread https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=274045 The mods were nice enough to lock it So heres the Update, I went to look at the car today.

Theres surface rust about quarter sized near the gas cap, and a few deep scratches, otherwise the body is pretty good. Interior is really nice.

The engine is a rebuilt 350, hasnt run yet (scary) and the tranny is a 700r4. the car used to be a fuel injected v6. Oh yeah its an 85.

i wish it woulda been cleaner when i seen it but oh well, So I got him down to 2000, running. I dont know if this isa good deal? Just wondering your guys opinions on the car, whether or not to sell mine, buy this, or soop up mine by doing the v6-350 swap. Really tough decision right now.

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Front view, again, very dusty, and thats a bra upfront


Body seemed straight and didnt have any rust on the bottom of the car


The goods. Not done yet, said he will send it to a mechanic to finish the job. $2000 running



Let me know what you guys think
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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Not running? I don't know. I think I would walk away unless I could get more information on how old the engine was, what was required to get it running, and the status of other mechanicals on the car.

Sorry... no help here.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Re: Should I buy it?

Originally posted by 83_Camaro_83

The goods. Not done yet, said he will send it to a mechanic to finish the job. $2000 running
Not to be rude, but I did put that, so technically it would be running
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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i say go for it man- if it fires up buy it- i may sound dumb but i bought my grand national without hearing it ever start up- the guy was in jail there was other problems dead battery blah blah blah- the lady was like 6500$ take it or leave it- i took it - got it towed home- put a fresh optima in it and started it up and she runs like shes brand new- the camaro looks nice man- wash her up get it all running and go.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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eh....doesnt look like a great deal to me....JMO....maybe if it was a lil cleaner...but surface rust is never just surface rust in my experience
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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eh....doesnt look like a great deal to me....JMO....maybe if it was a lil cleaner...but surface rust is never just surface rust in my experience
:werd: 83camaro i emailed you!
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by AJT86
i say go for it man- if it fires up buy it- i may sound dumb but i bought my grand national without hearing it ever start up- the guy was in jail there was other problems dead battery blah blah blah- the lady was like 6500$ take it or leave it- i took it - got it towed home- put a fresh optima in it and started it up and she runs like shes brand new- the camaro looks nice man- wash her up get it all running and go.
Man, spending that kinda money and not hearing it, wow, you got guts lol. See i want it and all, but i think i need a second look, and definatley to hear it fire.

megaracerx - It may not be something special, but it could be with work, and I looked all around and there really isnt any more rust than that. Hes the second owner, never winter driven

Nick418 - Lol i know I replied....and aparently you jsut emailed me back! haha
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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its your money...and if your selling your car for $3200 you can get somthing alot better
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Car: 1987 Z28
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Im really having second thoughts lol....Do you know a really good v6- v8 swap FAQ? Im searching the faq boards right now.

The thing is, This car isnt t tops, which i love ever so much and its to hard to let go of my first car. Im thinking I just have to convince my mom or dad to let me have thier garage space for a while..... Im really stuck in this situation
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Car: 87 Buick Grand National
Engine: 3.8 SFI Intercooled Turbo
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well i spent the money because i ripped everything apart i had free righn- the turbo had to shaft play- it was a one owner car- the guy had all the work done at a well known shop- there were receipts for the rebuilt motor- only has 5K on it right now, receipts for everything- fully loaded GN- posi, power everything, concert sound II, t tops- all it needed was door pannels and t top seals wich are done. the car was packed with performance stuff as well- buying a "preowned" car is the luck of the draw somtimes- you can get a car that looks immaculate and runs like brand new- 2 weeks later its getting a headgasket.

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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Car: 87 Buick Grand National
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and also about the V6-v8 swap alot of guys when i was first on here a while ago tried talking me out of it- said it wasnt worth the money go get a Z. right now im going with a 383- its acualy pretty simple when you have somthing else to drive. its pretty much pull everything out- put new motor mounts in, i have to fab a tranny Xmember, and go from there. it gives you a feeling of satisfaction that the old 6 banger has some life now with 2 more cylinders.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Car: 1987 Z28
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Im starting to lean away from this car, its pretty cool and all, But when i look at mine, (first car ever) it just screams out "keep me love me hold me" lol...sorry if i sound insane. But Im thinking, find a job, buy a crapbox, and build a 355 for my baby. I have many questions about the swap but If i start asking those and get answers the mods will lock it as usual

But yeah I just talked to my dad about it, he said the car wasnt bad, but then I thought, whats wrong with the one I have now? its just slow, get a job and fix that So I still need to think about this one, any input is appreciated
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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I wouldn't get it. Buying a sport coupe for 2 grand unmolested would be fine if it ran and had a good inspection sticker. But buying someone else's project is just one big question mark.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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I think you should keep your car and build it. Your car appears to be much nicer. Plus theres always a reason why the car is not been fired yet, especially w/ only alittle left to do. So get yourself a job, and get v8. How hard is that? plus $2,000 for someone else's headache isn't worth it.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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$200 will buy a running, slightly beat up v8 3rd gen around here. Maybe they're harder to find up there,....... but I'd keep looking anyway.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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Im confused, where is everyone getting that Im buying it not running? I put "$2000 RUNNING" he said he would take it to a mechanic to get it all running good caue its to cold to work on it at home. SO what i am saying, if i purchased it for $2000, it WOULD be running....so it wouldnt be a headache, but I think I have decided against it, I like the car I have now, And when I build up a 355 i can say its "MY" engine
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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for $2000us or $2400 CDN no way.
for $3000CDN I got a 1988 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible. Red w/black interior, black mint roof with 17" centerlines. It was a once in a lifetime grab but still I wouldnt even CONSIDER that for that price.
just My opinion

PS I sold the vert, the guy painted the front bumper, repolished the rims and has it for sale for $11000 CDN
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I sold it 3 days after I got it for 100% profit!
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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$2000 canadian, but i have made my decision, Im keeping mine It would just give me more self satisfaction by doing the swap myself
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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$2000 canadian, but i have made my decision, Im keeping mine It would just give me more self satisfaction by doing the swap myself
And then you know it's done right.

Further, I have learned that if there is ANYTHING suspicious about a car, you really need to walk away. Who knows, that v8 in that one could be absolutely junk. It could be just a stock rebuild, 160 HP motor. Which it sort of looks like it is.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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And then you know it's done right.

Further, I have learned that if there is ANYTHING suspicious about a car, you really need to walk away. Who knows, that v8 in that one could be absolutely junk. It could be just a stock rebuild, 160 HP motor. Which it sort of looks like it is.
The orange paint is deceptive lol
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Well, just.. like.. look at how messy it is in there. Plug wires are everywhere, no hoses, no rad cap, he's got a wire protector going over the rad.. yuck.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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its cause hes in the process of puttin it back together, used to be a v6 FI thats what alotta those things are, but whatever, I will pass on it and never think to sell my baby again
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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I think you have made the right choice. Your car is already 10x's nicer. If you do it right, it will only get better. Good luck man.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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good choice!
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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Thanx everyboy :lala:
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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good choice is right

good choice is right here in new york i bought a 1985 WS6 trans am T Tops perfect body and paint V8 TPI motor running (120000 miles ) for 1200US money i love it it is all power and the only thing wrong is that the seats are torn. (did u look on ebay there are great deals on there) or on cars.com
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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I dont really trust ebay, But I just couldnt come to sell mine anyways, the 2 times i have tried i had to turn down offers, lol, yeah somethings wrong with me
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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You are smart! I sold my first car and have regreted it ever since like three days after I sold it.
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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are you insane? that car looks wicked nice
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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True, True

I trust ebay because I know 2 people that sold cars on there for a reasonable price, also this 1985 trans am is my first car so i would not know what it feels like to sell it i dont think i would be able to
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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are you insane? that car looks wicked nice
It was terrible. Parents talked me into gettin a truck instead of fixing tranny in the z. It was an all-original car too
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Rust and deep scratches eh

any evidence of a repaint? Bondo?

Think about it, if your going to do any TPI tuning the 85 ECM sucks and you will have to upgrade to an 86+

Check engine mounts see if swap was done good

Insurance will be cheap
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