I want to lower my car but I'm not sure how much I want it lowered. I cant decide between 1" and 2"s. Can some of you post pictures to give me a good idea of what I want? Thanks!

 

then go with 1 1/2"

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

 

I lowered mine 2" and have 17" wheels.Everyone comments on it.My brother lowered his about 2 1/2"-2 3/4" and it looks really good.Almost makes me want to lower mine another 1/2" or so. Sorry I don't have pics to post;my new scanner hasn't come in yet.I will as soon as it does.

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'91 RS 5.0 TBI
New paint-solid black
ROH Snyper wheels-17x9 wrapped in 275/40/17
Eibach sportline springs
Flowmaster cat-back
TBI mods
383 implantation soon to come.

 

Here is my car lowereed with 18's.

I don't know how much exactly it's lowered, but I just wanted no wheel well gap. I would guess 2.5 front and 2.25 back. I'm using ultra stiff Global West springs. 800lbs in the front and 250 in the back....although I had to do much modification to have it sitting like that. Hope this gives you some idea.



Tommy

 

I lowered my GTA with Intrax 2" lowering springs, and wish I had gone with a 1" drop. 1" doesn't seem like much, but it is a dramatic difference, and you probably will be able to make it over speed bumps. With the dual cats its almost impossible not to hit them. Plus I think my ride is waaay too harsh now.. just my $.02 ...

Oh yeah.. and putting in lowering springs is a real pain in the *** . I hate spring compressors.

 

My car is lowered with Belltech drop spindles and lowering springs in the back. The ride did not suffer much at all. My car is on carolinafbodyclub.com if you want to see pics. It is the yellow one with the cowl hood. Go under events and go to the dyno in Belmount pics. I will post some pics if I can get hold of a scanner. Oh yea. How much and where did you get those 18's from. They look sweet

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1986 305 TPI
8.0 @88 in the 1/8
**Soon to be 355

 

You lowered that? My stock RS looks that low! But my springs are bad....But it still sits that low!!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

 

Yeah...got to be careful of those worn springs. The car must be "well driven"!

Post a pic..I'd be curious to see what it looks like....if it's sitting like my car and
you have the 16' rims...the ride must be rough as hell!

Late-

Tomy

 

Actually it rides really well. I think I have 15s tho. Maybe the 16s. But I looked at it a while ago and its not sitting AS low as yours. Maybe half an inch or so higher. But it looks slammed. I love it and Im not getting those springs fixed until the V8 gets here!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

 

Click on the Link!

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91 RS Camaro
3.1L
Cat Back System, K&N filter,modified air box, Fastchip Stage 2, 160 thermo, Rapidfires and Bosch Wires 5 Air Horns

Kills: 89' 302 Thunderbird, 88' 305 Cutless Supreme, 90' 3.8 Bonneville

My Car

[This message has been edited by Garmer (edited December 06, 2000).]

 

How the hell can a V6 camaro with 140hp stock with 40hp aftermarket at the most beat a 215hp mustang GT? Some of you V6 owners sound like youre pulling my chain...

 

Hi,
I agree with Rocky Balboa.....how do the V6 guys beat these cars? I mean Mustangs suck, and I know 3rd gen's are great, but how the hell does a v6 beat a v8? Maybe those other guys weren't racing?

I have a 1990 IROC-Z with 5 speed headers and almost any other thing you can think of. I beat the stangs also....but not that easily. And I know for damnn sure, that if I had half the engine mods I do know that the stangs would stay up with me.

Anyway..it would be good to know how the v6 guys do it.

Thanks

Tommy

 

Oh my god not this damn question again!! Why is it so hard to figure it out?? Im gonna make it short and sweet. My car is in REALLY good condition and the 2 V8s I raced were not and had an automatic tranny. So there for I beat their *** ! Well not the TBI that was a close one. But yes my fellow V8 fathers, us V6 sons of yours can kick your *** in a race. And if you want further info on this why dont you post those questions in the V6 section?

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

 

Monkie..that is so stupid. That's just like
saying I can beat a Ferrari because my car
is in really good shape and the Ferrari is
running on 5 cylinders. In a FAIR race, the
v8 would rape you. Why don't you go try to
race a v8 in good shape and then give us the
results.

Thanks

Tommy

 

Come on guys, how come 4 cylinders some time beat you? Many factors come into a race, not just the HP!

The Cutlass I beat needed a tune up real bad. Now we were real close to about 60, and then up to 110 i blew him away!

Now w/ the Thunderbird, he had just done a tuneup. I dont know how/why I beat him, it is just one of those things, again when I get to about 100, Nobody can catch me (at least the people I have raced)!

But I dont think it is fair the way you guys think we alway lie about everything! As far as I go, if I put a kill up, it is true!
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91 RS Camaro
3.1L
Cat Back System, K&N filter,modified air box, Fastchip Stage 2, 160 thermo, Rapidfires and Bosch Wires 5 Air Horns

Kills: 89' 302 Thunderbird, 88' 305 Cutless Supreme, 90' 3.8 Bonneville

My Car

[This message has been edited by Garmer (edited December 07, 2000).]

 

Oh Yeah........trust me......I have had my *** kicked by supra's and RX-7's! But those cars are in a different pool of cars. They are using turbos..like the RX-7. But these
guys are saying that they are racing aginst
the same types of cars. Like a V8 Mustang
VS. a V6 third gen Camaro. In a like for like race the Stang would win. These guys are also saying just because they have a stick they will win.that's bull****. Sorry to vent guys. I'm just tired of people saying that they can beat a stout V8.

Thanks

 

Mr. Iroz Z,

Who said anything about beating a "STOUT" V8? We all know (including myself and Monkie) that I brand new V8 vs. a V6, the V8 will win, there is no question about it. I just dont see why u guys try to ditch us V6 guys, for winning?

Oh yeah another thing, when you say that those other cars are out of a different "pool", well I guess we could say we beat a V8, which is out of a different pool too. Just something for ya to think to.

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91 RS Camaro
3.1L
Cat Back System, K&N filter,modified air box, Fastchip Stage 2, 160 thermo, Rapidfires and Bosch Wires 5 Air Horns

Kills: 89' 302 Thunderbird, 88' 305 Cutless Supreme, 90' 3.8 Bonneville

My Car

[This message has been edited by Garmer (edited December 07, 2000).]

 

Mr. IROC-Z...Is it really that stupid?? Wow, that shows how smart you are! Yea lets look at this for a second...A Ferrari running on 5 cylinders??? Well, thats about impossible but if it was I would give it to the Ferrari just because it is made of lightweight material. And it is a race car. And you are sitting there saying "thats like me saying I can beat a Ferrari that is on 5 cylinders." Ok, you have a V8 where as the Ferrari is running on 5 cylinders. It has no TCer or SCer and has less cylinders than you so why cant you "rape" it? If your car has 300,000 miles and mine has 110,000 miles and mine is in better condition Im sorry but your two cylinders are not gonna help you. But if you wanna fuss and cuss and bitch about this post on this link... https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/000494.html

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

 

just with my TA I've beaten alot of really fast cars,even a newer TA! it's not the car,it's the driver!! ofcourse thes guys had no clue what was going on when I shot by them chirping 2nd and 3rd at 5700 rpms,these are the guys that think higher gears mean:fast. I really knew a couple people that insisted on using "overdrive" for a race!!
.....automatic drivers, well I have an auto too, but you all know what I mean.(soon to be trans planted with a T-56 ). basiacally any car in decent running condition,with proper timing,fuel delivery can be fast. my car might be beat,but if I feed it half a tank of gas and short the TCC, I can still clean up like old times.(not that that would be a good idea)last summer I left a Salem,New Hampshire cruiser in the dust,I turned off my lights and imeadiatly went for second gear. I had that thing going faster than I can ever remember,holding perfect upper powerband. I happened to have the borla plate open(no cat) and had never tested the "flow qualities" of this setup,supposedly the Salem cops have somekind of hi-po setup under the hood, whatever the case,some dirty driving saved me from a big ticket and probably a little jail time. that night I watched "the worlds greatest chases" on fox. I'ts definitly the driving.

KIDS: DON'T TRY THIS IN YOUR COMMUNITY, IT CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH.

 

First of all, yeah it can be the driver that can make all of the difference in the world, but, more usable power, well you know. I have an '81 Elcamino that has a V6. That baby beat a '89 5.0 Mustang GT. We had a rolling start and I had the jump. Any other time,(off the line) I got beat. I have added an '82 T/A to my collection and I beat those things on a daily basis. Now for the 4.6's, well, not yet. I do belive that V6s can do well, but only under the right conditions. Wbatever they may be. As for lowwering, my Elco is slammed. I put a whole lotta sus. into it and it can out handle anything that I've come into contact with, but I scrape my frame a lot. I don't want to go that low with my T/A though, maybe 1.5-2 inches.

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'82 Firebird, dead stock, 9 bolt disc rear, over 200,000 miles and still going strong, more to come...

 

GO V-8 power. Go cool blublublub grrrrr. heh, raw power is the only way to go for this chicky.

 

Ok this kind of has something to do with this debate, not so much as V-6's vs. V-8's but as far as beating a car that should toast you.

There was one guy on this board who had an 89 IROC with the 5.7 TPI engine. He took the car to the track. The car had good tires, and was stock. The engine was pretty tired with over WELL over 100,000 miles on it, and the car ended up with getting a 16.3 et pretty consistantly.

I've got an 87 IROC with the fantastic LG-4 and a 5spd. My performance mods, as of last time I ran it, were basically just a free flowing cat, 3" exhaust, dual snorkel intake, 160 degree thermostat, a chip (worthless in an LG-4), and a posi rearend. My car has about 80,000 miles on it and it ran a 15.6 et consistantly.

Now, Mr.IROC, I understand that you are saying it is extremely inprobable that a low horsepower and low torque V-6 guy was racing a higher horsepower and MUCH higher torqued V-8, of similar weight, and lost...but it is possible. If I raced the guy with the tired L69, beat him, and posted that my LG-4, with minimal mods beat an L69 which is rated stock with 75 more hp and a lot more torque you would call me a liar as well.
I've also been in the other side. When I first got my car it would run slower than hell when it was cold. I pulled out of work and up to a stoplight. A stock DX civic pulled up next to me, the ligh turned green, and he took off after my car wouldn't rev beyond 3,000 rpm., and needless to say, he took off, flailing his arms around like he was the king of the world. He probably went into the import folder and boasted that be beat an IROC-Z, with a 350 (most don't know it even came in a 305, to tell you the truth).

[This message has been edited by MikeDwhoROCZImports (edited December 08, 2000).]

 

Ok...we have seemed to lost track of the
original thread of this message which was about how to lower cars. The issue about V6
vs v8 is final. In summary, the V6 guys are happy because they can beat V8 cars that are in crappy shape. Of course, this is true. Whatever makes you happy....

The Ferrari example was made to show how stupid the reasoning is when people say that they can beat other cars because they are in poor shape. I can write tomorrow and say that I beat a Ferrari, and you guys would seriously doubt the validity of this. The only way I would be able to beat a Ferrari is if it was in "poor shape" (like running on 5 cylinders) like Monkie said, or if the guy did was not racing me, or if the guy didn't know how to drive. In an even race, a Thirdgen V8, will beat a Thirdgen V6. That's it. All the guys with V6's you...know you want V8. With all the hop ups you have done to the V6, you could have bougth a V8.

And bragging about beating V8's is your way to cover up the shame of having a V6.

Tommy

 

My car has had both, and to tell you the truth i think a peppy V6 would have been nice. The only reason my car is in good shape is because i cant afford to drive the thing. All it does is eat gas and tires. The whole point of having a nice car is to show it off, but if you don't go to shows then there is no real point. The guy beside you at the lights dont know or care what mods you got.
I have killed alot of cars. I normally stop racing when i hit the speed limit or when they have no chance. But I always have guys pass me after thinking that i still give a S*** about racing them, when really they lost but just didn't give up. Then they post how they kicked it into fifth gear and blew passed a V8 thirdgen.

 

Anyways, although it doesn't exactly make you faster or give you extra power, third gens, Firebirds or Camaros, look "DOPE" when slammed. But they don't look cool hitting a dip at 30 mph when slammed!! No matter V6 or V8.

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'82 Firebird, dead stock, 9 bolt disc rear, over 200,000 miles and still going strong, more to come...

 

Ok..first of all, I am quite happy with my V6. I would've went with a V8 if not for the higher price of the car, the insurance costs, and the gas money. Personally, I don't go out and race EVERY day. If I did (not to be disrespectful), I'd own a Mustang. What gives you the right to tell all of us V6 owners that we should have shame for driving a car with 2 less cylinders than yours? Does that automatically make yours better than ours? If we'd wanted an 8 cylinder, we'd have bought an 8 cylinder. We're not saying that we can go out and beat EVERY Mustang GT. We're not saying that we can beat them badly...but the fact remains. Some of the V6 guys have beat Mustang GT's and other cars as well. Could've been traction problems, could've been a tired engine, could've been a crappy driver..there's a lot of things it could've been, but just because it's impropable doesn't mean it's impossible. You seem to think that because you have a bigger engine that your car is automatically better than ours and we should be shameful about owning nice cars. Well, I think I speak for every V6 owner in saying F**k you. You may feel inadequate and compensate by only owing v8's and trashing everyone for owning 6 cylinders, but most of us are happy with our cars, and personally....I have had offers for even trades on mine for mint Mustang GT's and turned them down quickly. Speed isn't everything to having a nice 3rd gen, and you need to learn that.
And one more thing....Why the hell is this in an appearance post? I came over here to find out the best way to clean my wheels, not to argue with some jack@$$.

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92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....

DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!

AIM name OVRCLCK350



[This message has been edited by Ovrclck350 (edited December 10, 2000).]

 

Mr. Iroc-Z, I would like to complement you on your car but I was curouis if you could make it a tad smaller so I do not have scroll sideways in order do read the posts. Thx My methods for lowering my car ... being to lazy and cheap to replace the worn out shocks and struts.

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Current: 1991 RS 305 TBI
Past: 1990 RS 305 TBI (A woman forgot what red lights are for)
Current: mostly stock - newer 305 w/ 12,000 on it
Eclipse speakers all around w/ 10" tube in back
Future: 2" Cowl hood w/ K&N filter

 

Where did you get those wheels Mr.IrocZ?

 

Dang Mr. Iroc.....Im sorry but Im gonna have to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th my fellow V6er's reply! Oh and wooooo you have a V8. I can get one of those too ya know.



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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

 

Thanks Monkie

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92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....

DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!

AIM name OVRCLCK350

 

I have half the motor you do Mr. Iroc and I can hang actually... if you could keep up that's a better question.

 

this whole post is upsetting. I would like to think that thirdgen-ers are more of a friendly group than this.

As i recall the turbo V6 trans-ams were the fastest third gen camaros ever MADE.

I myself own a 86 IROC 305 TPI, which is a solid car, and a nice engine, but i don't get why everyone feels the need to ragg on v6s, then ragg on v8s.

Remember what kind of car we (all) own, and relax a bit.

 

Sorry guys this is getting out of hand. I am going to close this thread.

Thanks for understanding,
Chuck