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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 01:40 PM
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Camaro or Firebird

OK, this is a fourth gen question, or opinion. I have the chance to but either a '94 Camaro Z28 or '94 Firebird Formula.
Both have LT1's, both have around 60kmiles, both are automatics, and both cost the same at $9500. But the Camaro is hunter green w/ black interior and t-tops, while the Firebird is black w/ gray leather interior but no t-tops.
I dont know which one i want???
What would be a better investment?
Any suggestions??
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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 03:17 PM
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Neither is a good investment! My choice would be the Camaro since that is where my passion lies. Which one would make you happier? Buying a car for investment is a bad choice, buy it to enjoy it.

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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 04:09 PM
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Hmm. Leather firebird seats are FAR superior to cloth camaro. I also like the firebird dash much more.

But, no t-tops. I'd buy the camaro for the t-tops with the intent of upgrading the seats.

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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 05:11 PM
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I agree with Jim, even though I like Firebird over Camaros, the t-tops are the only reason I still buy an F-Body. Go with the Camaro.
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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 05:34 PM
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Sorry, i didn't mean an "investment", i meant what would be a better car for my money.
I agree w/ the t-top thing, but what about the color??? (hunter green Camaro vs. black Firebird)
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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 05:55 PM
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well....pontiac is a division of GM...so is Chevrolet. so that means.....*gasp*...thier almost the same thing.....if u ask me..i like the camaro because the face of the car is evil...i dont like the firebird becuase it looks like an actual bird. i like camaros because of the IROC rims...i dont like firebirds checkerboards....its your desicion....but id go for the Chevrolet Camaro id rather have a car "Built like a rock" and not worry about "driving excitement" which both cars have qualities of....
im a fan of both cars and if i were u id flip a coin
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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 08:17 PM
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Just a thought...I had a 1984 T/A w/ 5.0 HO, went to 1988 RS w/ 305, my insurance dropped $500 just because it wasn't a
T/A (or Z28) even though it was newer and worth more.
Monies saved on insurance can be put to better use i.e erformance or cosmetic upgrades.
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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 08:55 PM
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So, my insurance will be cheaper because it will be a "Formula" and not a "Trans Am"??

Anyother suggestions on my "dilema"?
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Old Dec 19, 2000 | 10:48 AM
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Hunter green is a very cool color, I personally think. I love black, but I would take the hunter green w/ t-tops in a second
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Old Dec 19, 2000 | 02:43 PM
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Just to clarify, other than styling and interior details, plus t-tops, these cars are identical. I have an 88 ta and a 97 Z, so I have no loyalties either way. Who cares what others think, which one do you like better? (I'm a sucker for t-tops myself)

Formula is lighter and will be a touch quicker, leather is overrated in my book (hot or clammy or cold as opposed to cloth) Pontiac seat design is superior. Pontiac interior is better.

I love t-tops. Don't really care for hunter green, which has less miles and better tires?And I think you will find that a 4th gen car of that age will hold it's value WAY better than most other cars, as long as it's clean and well maintained. Especially if they stop makin' em.
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Old Dec 19, 2000 | 03:31 PM
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i actually wish i had a hardtop instead of t-tops but that doesnt matter. i would go with the camaro in that decision. as much as i love camaros i really like the looks of the t/a's over the camaros. however, the firebirds before 98 i dont like very much. i would go with the camaro.

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Old Dec 19, 2000 | 06:00 PM
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Formula is lighter???(by how much?)

Why would it be a ?touch" quicker? (by how much)

Thanks, any other suggestions?
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Old Dec 19, 2000 | 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by 91FastBird60kmiles:
Formula is lighter???(by how much?)

Why would it be a ?touch" quicker? (by how much)

Thanks, any other suggestions?

it seems like one question goes with the other. as far as i can tell, the t/a has the same engine as the formula350. what would make the formula quicker, (barely) would be the absence of all the ground fx.

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Old Dec 20, 2000 | 12:08 PM
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This is easy. The camaro. Think Z28. T-tops. Much better than a pointed nose, flip up light, bird. Only way I would get a one is if it was the Trans-am WS6. I would take that over any 4th gen camaro. Much nicer tons of power.

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Old Dec 20, 2000 | 06:57 PM
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Thanks guys a lot!!

I'm still not sure yet....lol......but im still looking for other choices (black z28, etc.)

Anyother suggestions or points to bring up on my dilema?

Thanks again
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Old Dec 20, 2000 | 08:31 PM
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I'd say the camaro. for these reasons. 1)t-tops. 2) cloth seats (i prefer them) 3) i dont want to mess with fixing the popup headlights on the firebird when they break (which i assure you, given time they will)

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Old Dec 20, 2000 | 09:05 PM
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The Formula. Camaro's are a dime a dozen on the roads today, espically the 4thgen styles. Go with the Formula, its nicer looking, rarely seen then the Camaro and nothing beats a Pontiac Dash or look.

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Old Dec 21, 2000 | 02:12 AM
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So nobody thinks $9,500 is a wee bit steep for a 94?

Personally, the only things I have against Firebirds are the pop up headlights and the honeycomb taillights, but that's pretty much what sets them apart from Camaros, eh?
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