I was at a show yesterday and a dude with an 00 SS parked next to me. He fell in love with my car. He said he would trade me....but I wasn't sure. His car is a 2000 SS Camaro, 6 speed, LS1, 30,000 miles, Corvette 18 inch rims, with 3 inch Borla Exhaust. It's in perfect shape, and runs strong. I told him no thanks, but I could always get back in touch with him if I change my mind. I really don't think I will because of the work involved I have in my car...but wanted to see what some of the members thought. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome, thanks

 

i prolly woulda done it but props to you for sticking with it. i love your car to so it woulda been hard. maybe you prices on LS1 are different down there then up here. but here i could sell the LS1 and buy another third gen and do it to the nuts. way to stay loyal to third gens tho dude, and as always the car looks great.

 

Yours is nicer. I wouldn't do it.

 

I would do it only if your going to sell it once you have it and use the cash to trick out another 91-92 Z28.

 

That SS would look a lot better with a black grill,and lowered a bit too IMO:



Your car still looks nicer though

 

Would I do it ? Yes, only because I want a red SS. Would I trade your car for the SS? That would take weeks of pondering.

 

You car is sick man... I would never get rid of that thing...

 

wow, interesting offer. I don't know anything about the mechanical condition of your Camaro, but a 30k LS1 sounds appealing. Visually, I think yours is superior.

 

No offense but the SS is a dime a dozen amd your's sticks out like no other.

I would keep her.

 

man i dunno i love your car.... there is a black SS w/ some LCA at the used car lot,and it was going for $21,000.


i would think really hard about it..
your car looks twice as nice tho. and no one really has tricked out 3rd gen, that stand out like yours.

 

i say go for it and trade him for it . Get a black grill and lower it and paint the roof and windows red like the rest of the car and it would be awesome . I say trade.

 

well I've always wanted an LS1... but installed in a third gen..

depends how attached you are to your car.. me, personally.. I'm not that attached to my car yet (still a POS, working on fixing it) I'd trade for the SS and then sell it to the highest bidder.. then start over with a first gen or a third gen.

good luck!

 

If it were me, no i would not do it.

But you have to ask yourself, if i did this, why would i be doing it?

Appearance-I think everyone can agree in saying the SS looks like a squashed jelly bean compared to a clean thirdgen. Think about it, there is a reason he asked you to trade.

Performance-Im not quite sure about the performance of yours, but with all that work into it and how rare it is to see a clean thirdgen, I wouldnt justify trading it for a stock car that you see all over the place just for the extra power.

I say just build up your car to perform just as well as an LS1

 

I'm with gr89RS. I was considering selling my car earlier this month and investing in a 6spd lt1 or ls1, but after some opinions and just looking around, 4th gens are a dime a dozen (so to speak), but you will hardly ever find a clean, well done thirdgen in this area, so I decided to stick with mine.

 

I think it comes down to how you feel about your car.

I like camaroguy21's idea. Trade, sell, and build another thirdgen. I love my car, but I could use the money from the SS to REALLY build a thirdgen like I want.

It's a TOUGH call!!!

 

Everyone has a price. Mine is a late-model Infiniti. Yours might be a 2000 SS. Though, personally, if you're looking for pithy viewpoints - I wouldn't do it.

 

No dice.

 

I REALLY doubt I'll trade, but I wanted to see what some you guys thought. Around here, a 2000 SS with 30,000 miles goes for about 17-19 grand or so. I've got about 14 grand in mine. As far as performance....mine isn't as near as fast an an LS1....and I really don't care for speed....mostly for show. I really would love to get an SS one day...but for as much work as I've put into my 91...I still don't think it would be worth it. If I bought my 91 with everything done to it....I probably would consider it...but because of the work, time, blood sweat and tears, I put into my car...I don't think could ever trade it or sell it...no matter the price.

 

a 2000 ss, no. If it was a 2000 ws6 TA, I would in a heartbeat

 

yeah thos are better too IMO

 

WS6.........yes

SS.............no


Then again I'm biased......I own a 2000 WS6

 

Alright I'm going to say it, because somebody needs to, you are crazy. Your car seems nice, don't get me wrong, but a 2000 SS > your car. I like the exterior styling more, and IMO, you'd be a fool if you thought your interior was nicer then that newer one. (I don't care how clean yours is, it's the design that is old and out-dated.) Put both cars on EBay, which is going to pull in a higher final bid? The 2000 SS with only 30,000 miles. Plus his transmission > your transmission. His ability to mod and go faster > yours. Sure there are some downsides, like higher insurance rates, but that's to be expected with such a newer, nicer car.

If I were you I would have acted cool on the outside and been yelling "YES!!!!" on the inside. Then made the deal ASAP.

Your crazy man.

 

Yup, even if you have to trade the car and sell it......you'll get more money then from your camaro.....

Then buy a 4th Gen WS6

 

Im sure he knows the dollar value is not quite even between the two, the only thing that would make a person hesitate would be which car makes them happy, not knowing that they have the more expensive car..but it would be a good way to earn money for a new thirdgen, but he is already pretty far in building this one.

 

98+ maros remind me of sebrings anyways....hardly ever notice them going by me

 

 

that is funny, 4th gen maros do look like Dodge Intrepids I still like em tho, I would never trade a 4th for my 91 Z. 91-92 Z28s are way better looking, Shawn you would be stupid if you trade. Your car is sooooo much hotter

 

Keep in mind you are asking a third-gen enthusiast board.....

 

All his hard work put into his car > a SS with a few appearance mods. If I was in that position with my car, I wouldn't trade either. It really depends if you like 4th gens. I do, but not nearly as much as thirdgens. Therefore I would not.

 

you have a very nice car with alot of hard work and effort. if your swapping for any reason other then your tired of your own car don't do it. in all reality it's an equal swap for the most part. his mileage is the only thing that would tell me to do it, if i were in your shoes at this point in your project it would be very, very hard to say no.

 

I love your car its beautiful it all comes down to how you feel about your car and what would you do with out it. You have babied that car!!! I think it was a long term plan for you...

As much as I love my car I would trade and do it. It just makes since as long as its an even trade no strings attached. Make sure its not been wrecked and all.


I agree with this-Alright I'm going to say it, because somebody needs to, you are crazy. Your car seems nice, don't get me wrong, but a 2000 SS > your car. I like the exterior styling more, and IMO, you'd be a fool if you thought your interior was nicer then that newer one. (I don't care how clean yours is, it's the design that is old and out-dated.) Put both cars on EBay, which is going to pull in a higher final bid? The 2000 SS with only 30,000 miles. Plus his transmission > your transmission. His ability to mod and go faster > yours. Sure there are some downsides, like higher insurance rates, but that's to be expected with such a newer, nicer car.

If I were you I would have acted cool on the outside and been yelling "YES!!!!" on the inside. Then made the deal ASAP.

Your crazy man.

 

thats what makes it special though.. Yea the interior is outdated but thats wat makes it so diffrent tho. Lot of joe schmos own a later WS6 or Z28 or SS and i see them around alot. But thirdgens man... You dont see that many esp in his shape and condition, its more of a eyecatcher then any 4th gen.. Plus the exterior style is hella lot better then a 4th gen camaro SS. i brought my GF to the Chevy dealership to look at a 2000 WS6 LS1.. She kinda liked it but said my camaro was hell lot cooler looking and has more of a classy look to it. Shawn if i were you, i would either leave it alone or get a LS1/ T56 Swap. Id rather have a LS1 3rd gen then a LS1 4th gen any day!!

 

it would be a very, very hard choice as the mileage on it is key. that looks like a very clean ss. it would have to be to consider it though.

 

i agree jeff.. But think about it. I see soo many low mileage 4th gen Camaro SS. Even lower then that! Like 5k org miles and in those lower ranges. 30k seems lil high for new SS to me... JMO.. Also how many low mileage 4th gens and clean ones do u see? Like a million... lol.. It not to big of a deal to me.. Nothin special. I say Shawn should throw a LS1 and T56 if he really wants that. I think that be the "Sickness"

 

and i will admit. that SS is badass and i love it. but over a 91 Z that has lot of work done to it with a sweet paint job.. i dunno man im still leaning towards the 91 because the looks and exterior is lot more cooler then a 4th gen

 

I think the other question is "do you want something faster?" If speed is not of any concern, I'd definitely say that keep the 91, but LS1's do have a lot of potential as compared to L98's. I think it has already been stated, but 4th gens may be faster, 3rd gens just have that classy, yet muscular appeal that you just can't get with a SS.

 

The money value of the two is a moot point. He should base it on what he likes better. He has already mentioned he's not into super high performance, so a new SS loses its primary selling point.

I think some of the people suggesting go for it are true Camaro lovers, but may suffer slightly from 4th gen envy. You may like your thirdgen, but its not the car of your dreams, its simply the cheapest, best option for the moment, and if given the opportunity, would not mind a trade. I certainly cannot afford a new SS, being only 21, but I also don't really like them, so that doesn't bother me. I don't like how it looks....at all. WS6's are another story, but the point remains, I bought my Iroc because I think it is the best looking Camaro ever produced. All the other stuff, the engine, the interior etc, are definately nicer on the 4th gen, but they still have their shortcomings. Every time I see one, I can't help thinking, "I can do better". Whether that's an LS1/T56 into my car and a custom interior, or some other exotic combo I don't know, but I do know I wouldn't be satisfied with a new SS.

Also, prices on 4th gens are dropping like rocks. My friend purchased a 2000 Z28, midnight blue w/ a T56 for $11K. I believe it has 40K miles on it, and is absolutely mint. So while this SS MIGHT be worth the estimated $20K now, what is its worth in a year, or 5 years?


I don't think either one is better than the other. I think it truly is an even trade. Therefore you should pick the one that will make you and you alone the happiest.

 

once a third gen always a third gen.....I think emotional value is worth more than something new and flashy. Alll the work you did to the car. The happy times the sad times.....I think your desicion was good

 

Wow, thats a nice avatar. Where did you get it?


Anyway back on topic, I do not want to speak for 84customZ28. But I believe I seen him say in some threads that he is not really into racing. And that he installed the NOS kit just for show.

 

Glad you like it . It's actually off the local car club forum I spent most of my time on. Our administrator there is a goofy fella, he worked up a bunch of odd ones like that I hadn't seen before. I thought this one was a riot, I laugh every time I see it.

 

Id take the pic of the SS, and advertisze it.. see how much it goes for, where it goes for more ..

IF the profit outweighs the time/effort/money you put into yours.. start over ..




But .. do you reaaallly feel like starting over ??

 

 

Last year I almost sold my car and bought a 99 Z with a Speed Inc 383 and a 9"... Dunno what I was thinking... Good choice man...

 

I'm not going to trade-

I put way to much work into this car. If I was some rich kid, that didn't do any of the work, that just wanted a play toy to go race, I probably would. But I spent the better part of my life, building this car, making it the way I wanted to make it, to create a car that didn't even exsist.

Like alot of you guys said, if I was into speed, I would definently consider the SS, but I'm not. Having someone come up to you, asking if I woud like to trade for a 2000 SS LS1 6 speed with 30,000 miles, tells me something....I have built a bad *** car, even though it's older, has more miles, it's slower...that is a huge accomplishment in itself.

At the show, there were a few dozen people that would come up, and just drool about my car...the paint, the wheels, the interior (BTW,the only thing I'm missing is the 4th gen dash and console), and they wouldn't say one thing about the SS parked next to me. It's an SS, with an LS1....it's not something that was modified...it was built from factory like that....and mine surely isn't.

So for you guys that say "your crazy", go ahead and say it, but if your attatched to something that you've built and spent the better part of your life on...it really isn't worth trading..because trust me, you'll look back and say "I didn't know what I had until it was gone"

And one more thing that you've got to look at. If my car was a stock 1991 Z28, no mods, no nothing...do you think that guy would have wanted to trade? My guess is NO. What makes people want this car are the modifcations that I have done.

 

If someone would trade me for my car? Yes i would take the SS

your car? no

Only thing possible that ur car might be missin is an engine which still im sures urs is plenty fast. I think if u had a 383 stroker or LT1/LS1 there would be no questioning any of this

I would not sell ur car for the reason or blood sweat and tears...money isant worth as much to me as what it took to build what u got.

Its so much better of a feeling fixing something up then buying it already fixed and nothing to do with it...

 

Yeah I guess there is no right or wrong choice its what you want its your car...Your car is awesome and RARE almost extinct!

However, I would have to come over and open up a can of whoop *** if you turned a car down like this...

 

ya dude....i dont know how much time/money you have into your car, but ive admired it for a while and im guessing quite a bit. No one can answer for you. Depends on how you feel about your car. But 4th gen SS's and WS6's are goin for quite a bit around here....its worth a thought. If you plan on selling your camaro anytime soon it will be hard to get what its worth and especially what its worth to you. Gonna have to wait around for the "right" buyer. this car wouldnt be hard to get what its worth.

 

Or this one



Tell him I will trade him lol!

 

well if it makes you feel better. the black SS above, is only a set of IForged wheels and an anniversary graphics kit away from the red one. theres one way to look at it.

(grille and clear markers too, but those are more of a minor detail and i dont think they make it look any better)

 

i think the grille makes a bigger difference than you give it credit for.

edit > ... although i'm no grille expert, especially considering i DONT HAVE ONE