Completed the Red Taillight Mod. Here's how I did it. (PICS INSIDE)
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ahh, my bad! just remembered the car of my ex. this one had the export lights.
First pic you can see the export lights, the outer side is amber.
on the second there is a rear foglight on the bumper as required in Germany
First pic you can see the export lights, the outer side is amber.
on the second there is a rear foglight on the bumper as required in Germany
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Great thread. Thanks for the comprehensive step by step.................think I'll make this a weekend project this spring.
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Hi All-
Sorry that I've been gone for a while, I graduated school and have been working on getting a new job. I'm back now, and noticing all the replies to this thread.
The pictures are broken, I will get them hosted and working again within the next couple of days.
I submitted this post to the admins to try to get it posted on the tech-articles page, but I haven't seen it yet. Does anyone possibly have a connection to find out what happened?
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Sorry that I've been gone for a while, I graduated school and have been working on getting a new job. I'm back now, and noticing all the replies to this thread.
The pictures are broken, I will get them hosted and working again within the next couple of days.
I submitted this post to the admins to try to get it posted on the tech-articles page, but I haven't seen it yet. Does anyone possibly have a connection to find out what happened?
--Pat
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Images are Fixed
My apologies again for the links being broken so long. I created a photobucket account today and linked appropriately.
Can anyone provide any advice for buffing the lenses out AFTER you paint them on the outside? I didn't use any clear, so I wonder if I can even buff them at all...?
Can anyone provide any advice for buffing the lenses out AFTER you paint them on the outside? I didn't use any clear, so I wonder if I can even buff them at all...?
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damn it; i bought a can of candy apple translucent paint a few months ago and had it sitting on MY shelf in the garage; and someone stole it, probably my brother;
i was going to do this mod today (even tho its cold, id use a heat gun to warm the plastic)
now i ahve to go buy another can , damn
i was going to do this mod today (even tho its cold, id use a heat gun to warm the plastic)
now i ahve to go buy another can , damn
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If someone wanted smoked lenses you could just add a little black base color to the clear and the more layers the darker they get. Then when at the desired darkness just sand and buff.
For the base model firebird(or formula) taillights(86?-92)
1. The color won't match the red of the red parts in the taillight, it turns out more orange maybe red-orange
2. The surface of the plastic part inside of the taillight is not flat. It has "hills". By putting paint inside it changes how the lense part looks when light shines through it. The paint fills in the areas between the "hills". Sorry i have a limited vocabulary tonight.
I don't recommend painting on the outside of the firebird taillights either, still doesn't match perfectly color-wise. The best and most difficult method I've found is to cut out a section from another taillight and epoxy it in.. Thats what I'm doing on my custom taillights, that and a few other things...
1. The color won't match the red of the red parts in the taillight, it turns out more orange maybe red-orange
2. The surface of the plastic part inside of the taillight is not flat. It has "hills". By putting paint inside it changes how the lense part looks when light shines through it. The paint fills in the areas between the "hills". Sorry i have a limited vocabulary tonight.
I don't recommend painting on the outside of the firebird taillights either, still doesn't match perfectly color-wise. The best and most difficult method I've found is to cut out a section from another taillight and epoxy it in.. Thats what I'm doing on my custom taillights, that and a few other things...
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has anyone tryed venturing into making LED tail lights??.. i dont want them gay clear lenses or nothin but i do want to use my GTO black outs nd cops keep giving me **** because the lights arent bright enough duringg the day.. so i am thinking about using led's because theyre pretty bright.. some company should make a whole replacement blackout assembly with led's
has anyone tryed venturing into making LED tail lights??.. i dont want them gay clear lenses or nothin but i do want to use my GTO black outs nd cops keep giving me **** because the lights arent bright enough duringg the day.. so i am thinking about using led's because theyre pretty bright.. some company should make a whole replacement blackout assembly with led's
Anything else would have to be custom-made, custom-designed.
Someone has made LED taillights for a camaro where they drilled holes on the inside of the plastic taillight lenses and stuck the LEDs in those.
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Firebat.
Ok, I see, maybe on the firebird tail lights, but on my camaro tail lights, I had them painted on the inside, Most people can't see the slight difference in colors.
My 3rd brakelight is a LED board. PM me if you want more info on it.
Ok, I see, maybe on the firebird tail lights, but on my camaro tail lights, I had them painted on the inside, Most people can't see the slight difference in colors.
My 3rd brakelight is a LED board. PM me if you want more info on it.
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whats wrong with spraying the outside on a camaro taillight? if you prep it right, spray the red (preferably on all red lights too, just to make sure they all match), and then clear it, there should not be a problem at all...
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Ok anyone know a good popular store to get the Testors Candy Apple Red Translucent paint from?
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yeap; i got my small spray can from a hobby/model shop . too bad someone in my family stole it; guna have to buy more; ive also heard that wallmart has them?
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I went to walmart today and even looked on their website and they had nothing. I got a couple hobby shops around im going to check out.
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Painted from the inside:
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i just did this mod this past weekend; painting them from the INSIDE
i put on 7 coats of the said red translucent paint; it turned out good; im very happy i did it
i did notice that even though i cleaned the inside of the lenses well; when everythign was dry and reassembled correctly, teh shade of red is a little bit duller; probably because the lense is clouded with the paint,a nd you cant see the reflector as well anymore
its ok tho, i hated the orange stripe on there
i did buy some Meguiers "clear plastic polish" and plan on rubbing some of that on the outsides of the lights , to buff them to a nice shine
- and you guys WERE right, those tabs' and plastic retainers are VERY fragile; i went into the project with the attitude that"if i go slow, i can easily not break anyhting" wrong; that plastic is brittle as an egg; if you bend it so slightly, it breaks offf;; but yea, i did glue them all back together tho, and uses some black sealant around the joints of plastic
very glad i did this mod; thank to the couple guys who wrote up the instructions above, helped out a lot- much better than flying blind at it
i put on 7 coats of the said red translucent paint; it turned out good; im very happy i did it
i did notice that even though i cleaned the inside of the lenses well; when everythign was dry and reassembled correctly, teh shade of red is a little bit duller; probably because the lense is clouded with the paint,a nd you cant see the reflector as well anymore
its ok tho, i hated the orange stripe on there
i did buy some Meguiers "clear plastic polish" and plan on rubbing some of that on the outsides of the lights , to buff them to a nice shine
- and you guys WERE right, those tabs' and plastic retainers are VERY fragile; i went into the project with the attitude that"if i go slow, i can easily not break anyhting" wrong; that plastic is brittle as an egg; if you bend it so slightly, it breaks offf;; but yea, i did glue them all back together tho, and uses some black sealant around the joints of plastic
very glad i did this mod; thank to the couple guys who wrote up the instructions above, helped out a lot- much better than flying blind at it
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now what about doingthe reverse lights red also do you think that` would be illegal or get me in trouble i got a "custom" light up valance from GTS a few years ago basically take the black pieces of the taillights and its a red lens that covers from reverse light to reverse light think it might look good if itwas all red all the way across
by the way the plate is relocated o the rear bumper
thanks
by the way the plate is relocated o the rear bumper
thanks
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off of the top of my head; i dont see any way that would be legal; or pass inspection, or be legalally allowed... i cant think of any vehi8cle that doesnt have white/clear reverse lights; which is done on purpose; so u can see whats behind u when ur backing up... i mean it sounds liek a good idea; i'd liekt o eliminate the white lights from my taillights, but i dont see any way that would be legal at all.. correct me if i am wrong tho
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reverse lights also have to be obviously known as reverse lights right when they are seen. please show pics of this valence you are talking about with the all red.
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I'm sorry George, I just don't like that at all
I think the plate on the rear bumper looks like a hack job, maybe a firebird bumber would do a better job there.
And that center section just looks funny to me. Doesn't really "go" with the car.
Sorry
I think the plate on the rear bumper looks like a hack job, maybe a firebird bumber would do a better job there.
And that center section just looks funny to me. Doesn't really "go" with the car.
Sorry
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ok, here are some pics of my "red-taillight mod"
i did this about a month ago; but ive just been too busy to actually even load up the photos to here..
now, OBVIOUSLY the car is getting painted (within the next 3 weeks) and that is why the paint is all scuffed up/missing/dull.. so look past that
i used the translucent red that is stated on the first post here; and you can read up about 7 posts to see how i did it (pretty much the same as everyone else that did thier on the inside)
ok 4 pics: attached
comments?
i did this about a month ago; but ive just been too busy to actually even load up the photos to here..
now, OBVIOUSLY the car is getting painted (within the next 3 weeks) and that is why the paint is all scuffed up/missing/dull.. so look past that
i used the translucent red that is stated on the first post here; and you can read up about 7 posts to see how i did it (pretty much the same as everyone else that did thier on the inside)
ok 4 pics: attached
comments?
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was going to put a firebird bumper on but its too short on the sides so i think when i get it ready for paint im going to shave the antenna door locks and get a license plate box from like one of those mini truck places and get that mounted on the back so its recessed in a little bit and that would look better but i was thinking bout painting the turn signals and reverse lights red so that its red all the way across kinda like the firebirds are
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good job guys...if i was to do it over again, i would have painted the inside and polished the outside but it still looks tons better than factory
i only used about 4 coats and it worked fine.
heres my thread
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...red+tail+light
i only used about 4 coats and it worked fine.
heres my thread
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...red+tail+light
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Re: Completed the Red Taillight Mod. Here's how I did it. (PICS INSIDE)
off of the top of my head; i dont see any way that would be legal; or pass inspection, or be legalally allowed... i cant think of any vehi8cle that doesnt have white/clear reverse lights; which is done on purpose; so u can see whats behind u when ur backing up... i mean it sounds liek a good idea; i'd liekt o eliminate the white lights from my taillights, but i dont see any way that would be legal at all.. correct me if i am wrong tho
I tested them in my kitchen with the lights out and they are bright as hell.
I've already redded out the entire tails, the clear section is now red and is wired exactly as the turn signals.
Pics to come soon.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/390461555736...ht_7227wt_1161
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Re: Completed the Red Taillight Mod. Here's how I did it. (PICS INSIDE)
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Re: Completed the Red Taillight Mod. Here's how I did it. (PICS INSIDE)
wow! looks good!!! 
how good is the illumination of the rear area when backing up with this leds?

how good is the illumination of the rear area when backing up with this leds?
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Re: Completed the Red Taillight Mod. Here's how I did it. (PICS INSIDE)
Finally I have to do this mod too. 
I have a spare set of tails laying around for the last two years...
I have a spare set of tails laying around for the last two years...
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