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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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professional photographer+IROC-Z=56k no no

same photographer that took the picture in my sig and others as while, well i met up with him last night with the IROC-Z last night and these are what i got to show for it. still waiting for the rest of the pictures just haven't gotten them from him yet oh yea, this is the same IROC that is for sale






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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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car looks good but the photos need to be cropped bad.
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Get'er Done! Like I said on Z28.com... you do know that when I come to visit, your hiring that guy to take pictures of BOTH of our cars.
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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Your car looks awesome, man. I like the way the pictures are... I don't think they need to be cropped any more than they have been.
Perfect!

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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Your car looks clean man. My suggestion would be for an iroc wheel, but do what makes you happy.
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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First picture is my favorite. Car looks great, needs the hatch aligned and iroc wheels though!
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Car looks very good from last time i saw it Nick. I thought your going to give it to your sister? I agree as much as i like the 91-92 wheels. You have to ditch them and put Iroc Z wheels on. It will fit the car much better.
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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i hate to jump on the band wagon but i agree with most others: go with iroc wheels
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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your photographer needs to find spots without lines, like the parking spaces...they take away and distract from the car


good work on the car!
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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thanks guys, and yes i know the Z28 wheels dont really do the car justice, but i'm saving for a paint job for my convertible and am limited in funding right now, but i assure you all these are only temporary fixes instead of running the stock 15" gold insert double line IROC wheels

and yea i know the hatch kinda needs to be aligned too
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:59 AM
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ehh. Go with the Iroc wheels, She will look alot better,I know mine will!
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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ehh. Go with the Iroc wheels, She will look alot better,I know mine will!

haven't figured out which wheels i'm gonna buy for it when i get around to it, all i know is i'm not putting the 15" wheels on it
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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The stripes are upside down, nice car though.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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Hey Rolla, MO - Springfield here. I attended UMR back in the mid 80's ...

One question about the car >> The IROC-Z stickers on the rear of the doors. Are they smaller than stock? They just don't look as big as all the other IROC-Z door emblems that I've seen.

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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Midwest Muscle
Hey Rolla, MO - Springfield here. I attended UMR back in the mid 80's ...

One question about the car >> The IROC-Z stickers on the rear of the doors. Are they smaller than stock? They just don't look as big as all the other IROC-Z door emblems that I've seen.

Mike M
hey i went to UMR last year but i'm not going back


and that's very possible about the stickers, i had those ones made at a body shop off a stencil
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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I guess I will jump on the band wagon...The car looks freakin' sweet but photography being my ohter hobby...the hatch should have been aligned in Photoshop...stains on the pavement..and I agree about the lines being distracting but, again...the car is great!

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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
The stripes are upside down, nice car though.

You beat me to it.

Besides that and the wheels, it looks really nice man. I like the color a lot.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MetalliCamaroRS
You beat me to it.

Besides that and the wheels, it looks really nice man. I like the color a lot.


i didn't even realize the stripes were mix matched until after they were on the car...oh well it hardly cost me anything to have them done
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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BlueZee28...what i find best is to find a industrial area with blacktop...no lines..get that as a background and have the same person shoot the car....you wanna get all 4 tires in the picture also and the more agressive you can get the car to look from different angles the better....like these...these are not mine and were done in a hurry because this was actually a used road





notice no lines on the pavement and cropped to show off the car as the subject....

this is what you dont want....



lines are distracting and take away from the car...if you're good at photoshop you can use the clone tool and get rid of the lines...i like this shot but the lines **** me off and the clone tool is owning my ***

never take pics in direct sunlight, overcast is the way to go...especially for a dark colored car like mine...this is why



dont take what i am saying as an insult because mine are nothing near perfect but from what a few have said that are pros said i was onto something with the shots...just lighting and a few other things that i mentioned were off...but thats why you gotta love digital
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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thanks for the tip, and actually all of those were taken around sunset. we both knew direct sunlight was a no no...this picture he took of my convertible is excellent minus the black railings you see behind the car. i have photoshop i just haven't had time to fix any of the things wrong with the pictures yet


near perfect shot minus the railings:

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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another great thing to have is a circular polarizer...that will take the glare off the windshield and add coloring to the sky and other things...great tool for a camera especially with cars
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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It's funny what some consider appealing and not appealing with art. Black84z28-4spd ... your first two pictures are quite boring to me, bar having a very nice Camaro. Your car is centered with almost no background. Useful for showing the car, but not for a piece of art. Just my opinion. It's a generally accepted "rule" in art that your subject matter should not be centered.

Lines can be in the picture and not detract from the photo, it just depends on placement and angles. BlueZee28's picture with the pinkish building is definitely my favorite, though it needs to be color corrected pretty bad and probably crop to just over the stain in the asphalt. The composition in that one is just more appealing. Again, to me. My opinion.


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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 67 Camaro 88
It's funny what some consider appealing and not appealing with art. Black84z28-4spd ... your first two pictures are quite boring to me, bar having a very nice Camaro. Your car is centered with almost no background. Useful for showing the car, but not for a piece of art. Just my opinion. It's a generally accepted "rule" in art that your subject matter should not be centered.

Lines can be in the picture and not detract from the photo, it just depends on placement and angles. BlueZee28's picture with the pinkish building is definitely my favorite, though it needs to be color corrected pretty bad and probably crop to just over the stain in the asphalt. The composition in that one is just more appealing. Again, to me. My opinion.


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then i guess alot of pros dont know what they are talking about....and his picture is centered too ...but it looks great

when it comes to lines there is a reason why pro car photographers clone out the lines or just find an area with fresh blacktop that has none at all....car mags will look past those images if you send them in...two local guys just got their cars in super chevy(purple chevelle with a huge blown 5722 that turned out a blusish color) and camaro performers (black 84 z28 with a 434sm blk) and notice none of the pictures have any type of line in the picture...my other hobby IS photography and iout of the couple i posted 64 others were taken and did not cut it too my standards...
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by black84z28-4spd
then i guess alot of pros dont know what they are talking about....and his picture is centered too ...but it looks great

when it comes to lines there is a reason why pro car photographers clone out the lines or just find an area with fresh blacktop that has none at all....car mags will look past those images if you send them in...two local guys just got their cars in super chevy(purple chevelle with a huge blown 5722 that turned out a blusish color) and camaro performers (black 84 z28 with a 434sm blk) and notice none of the pictures have any type of line in the picture...my other hobby IS photography and iout of the couple i posted 64 others were taken and did not cut it too my standards...
If his picture was cropped the way I was saying... it would be far from centered.

Maybe you're just talking about stripes in the asphalt. I'm talking lines in general. Either way I'm not arguing anything. I'm just saying that for a picture to be a piece of art, not just a "hey my car is shines and is pretty", lines aren't a bad thing... especially with a car like a thirdgen.. having hard lines itself. It all depends on how they are used. *shrug*

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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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the parking lot lines are what i was referring too
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Both of your cars look fantastic. Why are you selling the Iroc?
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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Both of your cars look fantastic. Why are you selling the Iroc?


i need money
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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i need money
If I put all that work, time, and money into a car, there's no way I could ever sell it.
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Sometimes the background can make all the difference:






Beautiful shots on the Camaros. I wonder how many of my blemishes a pro could identify in a car like mine.

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dont sell the iroc... =( anyways how do u align the hatch??

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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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dont sell the iroc... =( anyways how do u align the hatch??


i dont even know, i'll probably have to have my body work guy do it for me
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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I dont wanna dig up the post - how much are you selling it for - details or a link to the thread???
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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I dont wanna dig up the post - how much are you selling it for - details or a link to the thread???


1989 IROC-Z coupe 92,xxx original and stock miles. 305TPI/700R4
has an aftermarket catback system, not sure of the brand
Sony head unit
stock speakers

both front fenders are brand new, headliner is new, driver seat covering is new, various mechanical parts are new including the alternator, starter, and a rebuilt distributor. i have new plugs and wires for it i just haven't had the time to put them on yet.


there are a few very minute details that could be fixed on the car including:

the engine temp and oil pressure gauges dont work
has a crack in the dash
rear seats have faded slightly, they are not BLACK BLACK like they should be and could use some dye
the car could, believe it or not, use some more wet sanding. there are still a few spots where there is a little bit of orange peal that we didn't get all the way out.

the factory IROC wheels with gold insert would be on the car at the time of sale, and i am keeping my stock '91 wheels.


$6,250
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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That's all? If I had the money and lived near MO, I'd buy that car from you in a heart beat.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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That's all? If I had the money and lived near MO, I'd buy that car from you in a heart beat.

most people have told me i'm crazy for "wanting so much for a third gen"
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Personally (note, personally, not flaming) - i think with the milage and work it's too much for the car. Now, the rest of the people - who knows ..... i paid what you're asking for that car for mine - with 46k, brand new paint w/ghost stripes, and new tires. Depending on the specs of the car, i wouldnt mind paying that. Mine is rs with a 305- yes, not quite as desirable, but personally (note personally again), i think mine was in a bit better shape. Good luck on your sale , it sounds like a solid car, i hope it finds a good home.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KCobain147
Personally (note, personally, not flaming) - i think with the milage and work it's too much for the car. Now, the rest of the people - who knows ..... i paid what you're asking for that car for mine - with 46k, brand new paint w/ghost stripes, and new tires. Depending on the specs of the car, i wouldnt mind paying that. Mine is rs with a 305- yes, not quite as desirable, but personally (note personally again), i think mine was in a bit better shape. Good luck on your sale , it sounds like a solid car, i hope it finds a good home.

i am not taking any of that in any offensive way, but i dont know how you can say your RS was in better shape than my IROC when both have brand new paint, and my IROC is dang near flawless and also you've never seen it in person, oh well. matter of opinion i suppose. and as far as the price, again yours is an RS and IROCs pull quite a bit more price wise
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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I wont argue irocs pull a bit more - just sayin milage seems a bit high . With the right patience i bet seh'll find a nice home - or suck more out of your wallet when you decide nawwww- i dont wanna part w/it (i wish i would have before i sold my z)
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Originally Posted by KCobain147
I wont argue irocs pull a bit more - just sayin milage seems a bit high . With the right patience i bet seh'll find a nice home - or suck more out of your wallet when you decide nawwww- i dont wanna part w/it (i wish i would have before i sold my z)

92,xxx isn't alot of miles for a car that is almost 20 yrs old
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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well u can always do a a lil rebuilt.. to stock specs.. clean up the engine bay and sell it for alot more...
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