Are these GTA rims????
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
Kinda hard to clearly make them out GOOD, but they not only appear to be GTA rims, but 87 only GTA rims. Which would also make sense with the center caps having 'birds, rather than the WS6 logos, as on the 88+ wheels.
Got a closer, more straight on pic?
Got a closer, more straight on pic?
Re: Are these GTA rims????
I will have to get a a better pic, but it is 87 TA and the guy says there is a 350 TPI in it. So I'm not sure if it is a GTA or not I havent been able to look at the car personally only in pics thats why I was asking. Also, what is special about these rims "if" there only 87 gta rims. Thanks for your help!!!
Re: Are these GTA rims????
NO, there were never any GTA specific wheels.
Those wheels were first available on 86 Trans Am's, then used on T/A's all the way through 92 (the GTA being a luxury model of the Trans Am) and also Formula's in 91-92.
So I do not know where they picked up the Slang GTA wheels.
Sorry for the rant, just a personal Pet Peeve.
Those wheels were first available on 86 Trans Am's, then used on T/A's all the way through 92 (the GTA being a luxury model of the Trans Am) and also Formula's in 91-92.
So I do not know where they picked up the Slang GTA wheels.
Sorry for the rant, just a personal Pet Peeve.
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
The gold center wheels were most commonly seen on GTAs, hence "GTA wheels". The domed high tech turbo wheels were the standard T/A (also on '87 Formulas) wheels and the crosslaced wheels were an upgrade until the domed wheels were dropped for the deep dish version found on the '88-92 Formulas. Also, most T/As had either black,silver, or charcoal centers and the GTAs had gold. I've also seen some T/As and GTAs with white and red centered wheels as well.
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
The early crosslace wheels didn't have the "dimples" at the ends of the spokes, next to the polished lip. After 88, the dimples were introduced.
Here's a pic I took when I was showing my ride height. Notice the "dimples" at the ends of the crosslace. The early wheel were smooth & didn't have those in them.
Here's a pic I took when I was showing my ride height. Notice the "dimples" at the ends of the crosslace. The early wheel were smooth & didn't have those in them.
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
Also - That does not appear to be a GTA, it seems to have vents in the front fenders, GTAs do not, looks like a TA. Also, if it is an 87 GTA, it will not have a 350 with T-Tops, the 350 motor in 87 was not available with T-tops, unless of course the owner had them installed afterwards.
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
Also - That does not appear to be a GTA, it seems to have vents in the front fenders, GTAs do not, looks like a TA. Also, if it is an 87 GTA, it will not have a 350 with T-Tops, the 350 motor in 87 was not available with T-tops, unless of course the owner had them installed afterwards.
TAs could be had without the vents, but GTAs couldn't be had with them.
The sail panels don't have the GTA 'bird emblems, but those kinds of things are easily changed/removed.
But, it doesn't really matter. He was only asking about the wheels anyways.
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
well the rim ? is taking care of and as for the GTA ? look at the Rpo codes in the console and look for rpo y84. the GTA did not come with diff color G/X there are a lot of TA things on the car like the fenders, the seats, the ground X color. from what i see it not a GTA.
That should answer you question in your 2nd post.
That should answer you question in your 2nd post.
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
It also looks like they have the fronts on the drivers side of the car, and the rears on the pass. side. The "dish" is different on front/rear "GTA" wheels. Same size wheels..just different offsets.
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
I had a body shop screw up putting mine back on years ago. When I tried to leave, I heard the rubbing & stopped. Left the car blocking the driveway, & made them take a floor jack out to the car, and switch them. They weren't very happy about doing it out there, without an air impact, but oh well! If they had done it right to begin with....
I'm currently tuning 4 fronts on my GTA right now, and have 4 fronts stored indoors & collecting dust.
Re: Are these GTA rims????
doh' looks like i'll have to return my GTA! the factory screwed this one up!
"Y84" - GTA
"CC1" - T-Tops
"L98" - 350 TPI V8
"H" - 1987

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Re: Are these GTA rims????
Yup you can see it was black from the paint chipping off and the poor masking job by the previous owner.
But ehh heres some more proof.

According to Frankie (the Admin) from the GTA Source Page
But ehh heres some more proof.

According to Frankie (the Admin) from the GTA Source Page
Some Canadian-bound GTAs in 1987 had both the 5.7L engine and the CC1 hatch roof. I've not seen any US-spec GTAs with that combo for '87.
1987 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = Canada only
1988 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = No
1989 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = Yes
1990 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = No
1991 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = No
1992 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = No
1987 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = Canada only
1988 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = No
1989 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = Yes
1990 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = No
1991 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = No
1992 - 5.0L cars = Yes ---- 5.7L cars = No
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
The non-crosslace bird wheels were 15".
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
Fieros use a 4.5" bolt pattern
They do not bolt up to Fbodys
The centercaps are much smaller
Various 91-92 base birds had a 15" crosslace
They are all gold and have a much shallower dish
They do not bolt up to Fbodys
The centercaps are much smaller
Various 91-92 base birds had a 15" crosslace
They are all gold and have a much shallower dish
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Pics are easier than words
Base bird and mid TA not to be confused with the Formula wheels
Colors, natural and gold
15x7

91-92 Base crosslace "Knockoff GTA"
Colors, powdercoat gold only
15x7

87-92 "GTA" wheels, found on GTAs and TAs
Note the dimples in the outside perimeter, 87 was the only year to not have these
Colors, gold, black, silver, gray, natural
16x8

Fiero stuff
Base/some GT
Colors, natural
14x6

GT Crosslace
Colors, black, graphite, natural
15x7

Hope that clears things up
Base bird and mid TA not to be confused with the Formula wheels
Colors, natural and gold
15x7

91-92 Base crosslace "Knockoff GTA"
Colors, powdercoat gold only
15x7

87-92 "GTA" wheels, found on GTAs and TAs
Note the dimples in the outside perimeter, 87 was the only year to not have these
Colors, gold, black, silver, gray, natural
16x8

Fiero stuff
Base/some GT
Colors, natural
14x6

GT Crosslace
Colors, black, graphite, natural
15x7

Hope that clears things up
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
I stand corrected...I just always ***-umed the Fieros were the only 15" crosslaces, Only seen ine TA with 15" crosslaces, & that was just 2 years ago.
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The 15X7 crosslace also came in plain old clear coated aluminum. I had a set on my car temporarily.
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
I will have to get a a better pic, but it is 87 TA and the guy says there is a 350 TPI in it. So I'm not sure if it is a GTA or not I havent been able to look at the car personally only in pics thats why I was asking. Also, what is special about these rims "if" there only 87 gta rims. Thanks for your help!!!
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Re: Are these GTA rims????
Sorry, it was bothering me
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