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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Just wondering what kind of unique mods you guys have done. Appearance or performance related, just post up a pic if you've done something creative or unique.
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

I have to say my exhaust cut out. It has a wireless remote, therefore I can step out side of the car and press the button and it becomes open header. Most people think it is the coolest thing they have ever seen. Especially when they don't know much about cars.

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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Probably my functional Z28 hood blisters. Followed a walk threw on here on them. It's cool on a cold night to see the heat waves come from the openings.

That or my aerocatch hood pins.
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by MeenZ28
Probably my functional Z28 hood blisters. Followed a walk threw on here on them. It's cool on a cold night to see the heat waves come from the openings.

That or my aerocatch hood pins.
I'd love to see your pics of your blisters. This has always been one of the things I wanted to do to my hood. Kinda been waiting for something to happen to the paint on mine to "need: to do it
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by Buggy Disaster
I have to say my exhaust cut out. It has a wireless remote, therefore I can step out side of the car and press the button and it becomes open header. Most people think it is the coolest thing they have ever seen. Especially when they don't know much about cars.

What brand cutout is that? And how do you like it? Anything bad about it?
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by BADNBLK
I'd love to see your pics of your blisters. This has always been one of the things I wanted to do to my hood. Kinda been waiting for something to happen to the paint on mine to "need: to do it
I need to take some new pics.... haven't taken any since I've done them. I'll get on it and post up by this weekend.
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by LivinLarge
What brand cutout is that? And how do you like it? Anything bad about it?
I'd like to know as well. I have a QTP that was junk, so I took it off, just run it open now

Originally Posted by MeenZ28
I need to take some new pics.... haven't taken any since I've done them. I'll get on it and post up by this weekend.
Yeah you should. I will keep my eye out.
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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Probably my coupe spoiler mod, powder coated brakes, and the custom CNC billet aluminum dash emblem.


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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by Buggy Disaster
I have to say my exhaust cut out. It has a wireless remote, therefore I can step out side of the car and press the button and it becomes open header. Most people think it is the coolest thing they have ever seen. Especially when they don't know much about cars.
I have a dougs headers electric cutout and I love it. No remote though that's pretty cool.

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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by BlueZee28
Probably my coupe spoiler mod, powder coated brakes, and the custom CNC billet aluminum dash emblem.
Those blue brakes are badass.
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Thanks, I cannot wait to get them mounted on the car with my new wheels. I was going to have that done this past weekend but ran into some other more pressing issues.
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 11:09 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Right on, I just put this C5 set up on but I haven't driven the car yet

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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 01:28 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Got a lot of them......



I know somebody will criticize on the dash oh well





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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 01:33 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Is the temperature in the rearview mirror functional? If so, I think that is pretty trick! How hard was it to install? And where did you put the temp sensor?
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 01:44 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Sure is at the time i just didnt have the sensor connected i have it clipped on to the header brace right behind pass side headlight ive also gotten the compass calculated was really simple goes right on the factory metal piece on the windshield wiring was probably the hardest I believe I pulled it out of a 04 trailblazer
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:11 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Lots of cool stuff in this Fabrication forum thread:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...some-pics.html
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:21 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by Buggy Disaster
I have to say my exhaust cut out. It has a wireless remote, therefore I can step out side of the car and press the button and it becomes open header. Most people think it is the coolest thing they have ever seen. Especially when they don't know much about cars.


Thats cool..

I always wanted to do this but have them open automatically when at WOT.

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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by 86_irocz-28
Got a lot of them......



I know somebody will criticize on the dash oh well




I love the rear bumper, nice work
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Probably my coupe spoiler mod
X10 on that

I'd have to say my air ride. When I pull into a show, I have the air about maxed out (donked). People look like this when I drop it to the ground:
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 06:39 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by Sickness91Z28
X10 on that

I'd have to say my air ride. When I pull into a show, I have the air about maxed out (donked). People look like this when I drop it to the ground:
Lol that is priceless

You have got to get a video of that...
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

I reversed the hood hinges on my camaro so it's hinged at the front like a Corvette.

BlueZ - How hard was it to put the camaro script on your calipers? I have a pair of c4 calipers waiting to go on my camaro that I was planning to powdercoat anyhow and I would love to do that.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

im currently making 1 off taillights does that count
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

For those wondering about the Cutout,

I'm not sure on the exact brand, I bought it used. GSP has one that looks identical, however the remote is slightly different. It works great. I have no problems with it. The remote is small and has a key ring on it, so it allows you to not worry about drilling/mounting a switch. I simply clipped it to my headlight switch.


Here is the link to the GSP Cutout. The one in the link is 3". Mine is 2.5".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GSP-UNIVERSAL-3-INCH-ELECTRIC-EXHAUST-STAINLESS-CUTOUT-Y-PIPE-WITH-REMOTE-V2-/230961515125?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35c6610a75&vxp=mtr
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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As requested, pics of my fuctional heat extractor Z28 hood blisters
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 10:39 PM
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^^ That's sweet!
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 12:25 AM
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I did some work to my spoiler mounted brake light and installed 3 rows of LED strips behind the lens. Hardest part was removing the back side of the light housing. They're mounted in there with lots of clear silicone...


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Since I swapped the motor for a 383, RS really doesn't fit any more. I had these polished stainless emblems made for the bumper and GFX. I still need to find something to do with the nose emblem, it's still original. Excuse the dirt in the pic...

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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 06:31 AM
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BlueZ - How hard was it to put the camaro script on your calipers? I have a pair of c4 calipers waiting to go on my camaro that I was planning to powdercoat anyhow and I would love to do that.

Those are decals that I bought from Fourth circle Designs I think.



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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

i would say my steering shaft. it took a lot of time to get it right. there is always someone at the track that comments on it

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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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I forgot to add above that I've shaved the door handles. I've also mounted the keyless entry touchpad from an explorer behind my license plate. I can pop the trunk with it or open the driver's door in case the battery in the door popper remote dies.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by 2007xl50
I love the rear bumper, nice work
Why thank you that was done on my old camaro but ive done it on my new one as well as the gas door also my side skirts are shaved and firewall are shaved on the new one to

Need more recent pics but heres this for now
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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i dont have a pic yet but i put a 8.5 posi rear from 80 z28 in about 10 years ago i used the lower control arm as ladder bars
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by MeenZ28
As requested, pics of my fuctional heat extractor Z28 hood blisters
Man, these are sick
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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84 1LE, did you ever finish that? It looks like it will be pretty cool!
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Not yet.
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by 92RS_Ttop
I reversed the hood hinges on my camaro so it's hinged at the front like a Corvette.
PICS?
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by The Project
PICS?
Here's a link to my build thread:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...erse-hood.html

It won't let my post the same pics twice. I also have a video on YouTube showing how it opens and closes. Search my TGO username on there and you'll find it.
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My MSD in my org 92 battery. there are more mods..
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 11:21 PM
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Reinforced my rotted cowl with carbon fibre (details in a fabrication thread). Why? Because I could....

In the next year I am thinking:
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 09:49 AM
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Def my white leather seats
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Those white leather seats are pimp nasty
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 09:51 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by nosajwols
Reinforced my rotted cowl with carbon fibre (details in a fabrication thread). Why? Because I could....

In the next year I am thinking:
CF filler panel (between nose and rad support)
CF STB
CF Fan Shroud (top half)
CF T-Tops

Because I can (hopefully)....
Your are just wrapping the existing parts correct?
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by BADNBLK
Your are just wrapping the existing parts correct?
You sir have confused me with a Honda guy.... In all fairness the cowl is technically a wrap though, but it has a functional purpose as well.

The plans are (in likely order of execution, next part depends on the success of the previous):

The fan shroud will likely be CF bonded to a modified (simplified) shroud (wrapping), this is super easy. May vacuum bag, may not. Totally cosmetic.

The STB, metal ends for mounting on a home made CF tube. Plan is to use the foam core method DIY bike builders use, acetone after cure to remove the foam core. All CF for strength with fibreglass between the metal and CF to prevent galvanic corrosion. Likely will compression tape this one instead of VB.

Attached is the inspiration, mine will be a simpler shape.

Filler panel made from scratch with CF top and bottom and a fibreglass core to save cost. MDF mold of the shape I want. Trim to fit after cure. This will be VB. Will not be the same shape as the factory filler.

Door panels fibreglass, Kevlar, and CF in a more or less flat panel design with leather trim added later.

T-Tops (this will likely only happen if all the above works since I think this is the hardest). Seperate the glass and use it as a form. Mold relase the top of the glass, multiple layers of CF on top of that, then a fibreglass cloth core (save money and to build thickness...), then CF on top and VB. Release from the glass and trim to size. This should result in a CF panel the same size as the t-top glass with a slightly shallower arc. CF top and bottom fibreglass in the middle.

Right now I am waiting for warmer weather so I can make some experimental test parts (have to work on this stuff outside) to figure out how many layers etc. Have the VB equipment almost all lined up.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

5 1/5in.and 6x9 speakers and installing the “88”short wing.














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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

[quote=ronusmc;5542381]5 1/5in.and 6x9 speakers and installing the “88”short wing.













6x9s fit under the sail panels. Why would you mount them like that?
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Well I have a lot of body mods like ZL1 fender flares, Second gen trans am rear spoiler with third brake light that I'm still working on, Fiberglass GFXs, Fiberglass hood with ZL1 cowl scoop, rear T/A hood vent molded into hood, Side vents molded into fenders, Pop up head light deletes,
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 11:21 PM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by T/Aperformance
Well I have a lot of body mods like ZL1 fender flares, Second gen trans am rear spoiler with third brake light that I'm still working on, Fiberglass GFXs, Fiberglass hood with ZL1 cowl scoop, rear T/A hood vent molded into hood, Side vents molded into fenders, Pop up head light deletes,
Pics would be appreciated since you have mentioned so many unique mods...
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 12:08 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Originally Posted by IW-33
Pics would be appreciated since you have mentioned so many unique mods...
Just click on my name I have a lot of pics there on this forum, To many for me to load up and fill this thread with.
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 02:26 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

[quote=
6x9s fit under the sail panels. Why would you mount them like that?[/quote]

I had to recover all the panels including headliner so I did them in black vinyl to match the black vinyl door skins I found .With vinyl that's the only way I could do it. Besides that's a large heavy speaker and one that would not fit under a sail panel if I wanted it to. The magnet is so large and deep it barely fit even the way they are. I listen to mostly classic rock and with the head unit adjusted properly between the 5 1/2 fronts and those 6x9s it sounds amazing especially if your sitting in the back. The camera/flash really does not do them any justice ,they look a lot better in a darker environment.(limo tint)

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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 04:23 AM
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Re: What's the most creative mod you've done to your car?

Ttop350....why do you have a MSD in your battery ??? And how ???

92rs-ttop ...you said something about using ford explore number pad...to open your doors...I went and looked at your thread about your flipped hood ( nice job ) and didn't see anything about the number pad...
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