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FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
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FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
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I was recently asked about aftermarket headlights that might fit 91-92 Firebirds, for which there has been little-to-nothing in a dual beam product that would fit and work properly. But FINALLY, there's an excellent LED headlight for 91-92 Firebirds.
Vision X now offers a new, plug-n-play, sealed, 4x6 Vortex LED headlight(so new, that it was not yet on their website when I originally posted this, but it has, since, been listed), available in chrome and black chrome, with dual beam(low AND high) functionality(like the H4666), a perimeter Halo(for a DRL), AND it's DOT/SAE approved. Being from Vision X, the quality is sure to be excellent, and its performance outstanding.
This thread was needlessly-attacked before I was able to add specific information to this original post, but it now features images and links, just as I've always provided in my threads. I had also originally included information and links to other 4x6 headlights, but I've moved those down to post #21, and as of this 6/22/19 edit, most of those links have been removed, due to them no longer working. Also due to this 6/22/19 edit, post #26 features links to two new 4x6 headlights that have hit the market recently. So this original post features only two Vision X products: the new 4x6 Vortex LED headlight(about which this thread was created) and the 4x6 reflector headlight housing(which is the best, replacement-style, reflector headlight housing available), with other 4x6 headlights listed throughout this thread.
The images I've attached at the top of the page are from Vision X's website. Chris at TLG-Auto/Headlight Revolution has them in stock, and he has produced video for this new Vision X LED headlight, just as he has for 5x7/7x6 headlights and all of the headlights he offers. And at the beginning of the video, you'll see many other 4x6 headlights that are available, but I doubt there's a better-made, better-performing headlight on the market than the Vision X Vortex headlight. And if I had a 91-92 Firebird, I would definitely install these headlights in it. And in a Camaro, not only would they provide outstanding performance, but also they would provide a killer appearance.
The downside for most people, unfortunately, is price, making it one of the most expensive headlights on the market, but it has since been slightly lowered as of this 6/22/19 edit. So the value will be in the eye of the beholder, just as it is for any product. But comparatively-speaking, based upon the price and performance of other such products, then yes, they will be worth the price. After all, high-quality US products like these require a lot of R&D, and that doesn't come inexpensively.
These are available from Headlight Revolution, or one of its affiliates, of course. And as I've stated in other threads: I am not affiliated with those companies; I'm merely a satisfied customer who tries to put the word out for such an excellent and reputable vendor(full disclaimer in post #22). But let's be clear... I'm not suggesting that anyone purchase anything, and I never have in any of my other product postings. I'm merely reporting my findings because I know people are looking for such products. And like always, I encourage people to do their own research and make their own decisions about what might be best for them.
The Headlight Revolution video linked below demonstrates the Vision X 4x6 Vortex LED headlight.
The next few paragraphs are about another Vision X headlight, it's stock-replacement reflector housings, complete with another demonstrational video from Headlight Revolution.
TLG-Auto/Headlight Revolution/GTR Lighting, from whom I got my Formula's 7x6 Projector headlights 3 years ago, have a lot of product videos on you tube, so check-out their many demonstrational videos. It's through one of their videos, linked below, that I realized the excellence of another Vision X headlight: stock-replacement, reflector housings for replaceable bulbs. Those, too, would make for excellent replacement headlights for 91-92 Firebirds, or any other 3rdgen, for that matter, as they're available in 4x6 and 7x6.
These are NOT ebay housings! They're the best reflector housings on the market. Tested in the video below with Halogen and HID, the results were, surprisingly, exceptional, with a sharp, projector-like cut-off line and a nicely-shaped beam pattern. And with a lack of manufactured, high-performance, dual beam headlight options available that fit 3rdgens, these reflector housings, with a Halogen bulb, or a dual beam HID kit or an LED kit, could fill that void and provide an excellent plug-n-play upgrade for all 3rdgens, but especially for 91-92 Firebirds. They're not as "high-tech" as people might want, but they can hold-their-own against higher-tech products, while presenting a somewhat stock-style appearance, and they're an affordable option. So for people who just want a simple, but better, sealed beam-style replacement headlight, these are as good as it gets.
The Vision X 5x7/7x6 reflector housing(for 82-90 Firebirds) is designed for an H4 bulb, whereas, the 4x6 reflector housing(for 91-92 Firebirds and 82-92 Camaros) is designed for a 9007 bulb, which has an O-ring that seals the hole where the bulb plugs into the housing. Vision X even offers a harness for adapting 9007 to H4(included, I think), making both headlight sizes plug-n-play.
In general, reflector housings DO provide a cut-off line, just not a sharp, projector-like line. But the reflector housings from Vision X produce a sharp, projector-like cut-off line, as you saw in the video above. So higher-powered light sources, such as HID and LED, can produce excellent performance, with safe results, unlike using bright light sources in "ebay housings" or in modified sealed beams. And being available in 4x6 and 7x6, they will work for ANY 3rdgen as a simple, affordable, "high-performance" option.
So with the new Vision X 4x6 Vortex LED and the Vision X 4x6 replacement-style reflector housing, 91-92 Firebird owners have two, excellent, headlight options available to them. And checkout post #26 for two new headlight options.
Last edited by LAFireboyd; Jun 23, 2019 at 12:57 AM.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
For somebody who isn't affiliated with them, you took a lot of time to write up a lengthy sales pitch. The best part of this whole sales pitch is that you bolded the word affordable several times. The problem is, nowhere is the price actually mentioned. Best of all, as you even pointed out, the product is not on their website yet. Nice write up, post back up when we can verify a) that the product actually exists, and b) when we can verify to ourselves what affordable means to you (as in an actual quantifiable dollar amount.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
YEAH, I'll go along with the old slogan "IF IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT USUALLY ISN'T. A LOT of sales talk with NO price. Lets see IF ANYBODY buys a set (H4666) and gives us a heads up as to how well they work.
Last edited by edpontiac91; Jun 10, 2016 at 09:05 PM.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
Nowhere did I say that the Vortex LED headlights are, or would be, affordable. My use of the word, affordable, was in the paragraphs where I was talking about the replacement-style reflector housings, and I fail to see any confusion in that regard. Those reflector housings are not cheap ebay products, so, naturally, they cost more than ebay products. Regardless of that, they're still affordable, in any reasonable interpretation of the concept of affordability. And if you watched the linked video, where Chris demonstrates them against the cheap ebay products, he even states the price range of the products. Even if he hadn't, though he did, those products are listed on his and Vision X's websites, with prices. So if people can find their way onto TGO, then they're capable of pointing-and-clicking(or touching) their way onto those websites, where a brief visit would've provided answers to such questions.
The Vortex LED 7" and 5.75" headlights have been available for awhile, so they are listed on those websites, with prices; they're expensive. So here, too, a visit would've given people an idea of the price range of the 4x6 version. Vision X's website stated that a 4x6 version was "coming soon," and when I contacted them to find out when, they said it's ready to go, but it wasn't listed yet. So again, they're expensive, and in no way did I elude to them as being affordable. In fact, I clearly stated that they will be one of the most expensive products of their kind on the market.
And if people had read the footnote at the end of my post, when originally written, it stated my intention to add links to product listings and videos, as I had time to do so. I couldn't do it at that time because I have a life, and I had other things to do. But I wanted to get the thread posted to start spreading the word, then add more later. So, patience, my friends, patience.
Last edited by LAFireboyd; Jun 24, 2016 at 02:43 AM.
But I think I'll wait until I see some first hand reviews and comparisons of these once some other forum members can get their hands on them.
Alex
That's a good price for those, Alex. And in a stock sealed beam product, that's currently the best one on the dwindling market. I would get them while you have the chance. Then if you decide to change them later, you won't have spent a lot of money on them now. Also, if you do end-up changing to an aftermarket product, then, at least, you will have them on hand for a day when you might decide to go original again. Because, when/if that day comes, it could be very difficult to find them again, and they might not be as inexpensive.
I read one of your posts where you stated that you have Kragen down there. Pep Boys? Pep Boys, a couple of years ago, eliminated Sylvania headlight products and began stocking Philips. So any Pep Boys will have those, Alex, and you won't have to order them and pay for shipping, if you have a Pep Boys on the island.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
I wonder if the Vision X 4x6 housing has the same great cutoff as the 5x7 housing. I am not happy with my current headlight housing.
*edit* you also said that the 4x6 is offered with H4 and 9007, but I am only seeing a 9007 version. However, on Amazon I can only find a H4 version from the seller Vision X.
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Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
Originally Posted by AmorgetRS
I wonder if the Vision X 4x6 housing has the same great cutoff as the 5x7 housing. I am not happy with my current headlight housing.
I was surprised when I saw that, too. It's nice. And I wondered that same thing. We would think that it does, just because the other one does, but I haven't seen one demonstrated. Chris has videos comparing the larger size headlights, so maybe he has videos comparing the 4x6s. If I find one, then I will post it.
BTW, Vision X is in Seattle, too, so you're practically neighbors.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
Not bad, they're getting there, but I wont be swapping my HID/proj anytime soon.The Lumen isn't quite HID territory, plus they wont publish individual lumen, only combined.I guess you could just divide those numbers in half though.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
Originally Posted by LAFireboyd
That's a good price for those, Alex. And in a stock sealed beam product, that's currently the best one on the dwindling market. I would get them while you have the chance. Then if you decide to change them later, you won't have spent a lot of money on them now. Also, if you do end-up changing to an aftermarket product, then, at least, you will have them on hand for a day when you might decide to go original again. Because, when/if that day comes, it could be very difficult to find them again, and they might not be as inexpensive.
I read one of your posts where you stated that you have Kragen down there. Pep Boys? Pep Boys, a couple of years ago, eliminated Sylvania headlight products and began stocking Philips. So any Pep Boys will have those, Alex, and you won't have to order them and pay for shipping, if you have a Pep Boys on the island.
No Kragen or Pep Boys, only a crappy independent Napa. When I used to live in CA there was everything there. Fact is I buy everything when I'm in CA a couple times a year and take it down in my suit case.
I'll buy those lights then. Price doesn't matter to me. Hell, I'd pay $100 each for them if there were a bad *** plug & play replacement. My thing is that I want to never cut the factory wires/connector.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
Originally Posted by 92GTA
I'll buy those lights then. Price doesn't matter to me. Hell, I'd pay $100 each for them if there were a bad *** plug & play replacement. My thing is that I want to never cut the factory wires/connector.
Same here. I don't mind the $$. I just want plug n' play, no cutting.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
You brought up a good point, Alex. There is no true "plug-n-play" aftermarket headlight for 91-92 Firebirds because the connector for the H4666 headlight is not a standard H4 connector. It's sort of a splayed H4, so a short adapter harness would be needed. But those harnesses are available, so a headlight change will not be a problem, and the car's harness will not have to be altered.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
I put in projectors in a 4666 housing for HID's, didn't cut or modify anything other than the 4666 housing as far as I can remember, maybe and if maybe it was just the back of the headlight bucket tabs
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
Originally Posted by LAFireboyd
You brought up a good point, Alex. There is no true "plug-n-play" aftermarket headlight for 91-92 Firebirds because the connector for the H4666 headlight is not a standard H4 connector. It's sort of a splayed H4, so a short adapter harness would be needed. But those harnesses are available, so a headlight change will not be a problem, and the car's harness will not have to be altered.
Yeah I consider an adapter still to be plug and play so that would be great when/if offered with these. Great to hear those adapters are available.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
H4666 adapters wouldn't come with, but they're available online for about $30/pair. Here's one listing on ebay, but an internet search for H4666 adapters will turn-up more results. The adapters would be needed for installing any aftermarket headlight with an H4 connection into 91-92 Firebirds, whether it's the Vision X Vortex LED 4x6 headlights, the Vision X 4x6 reflector housings, or any other brand of good or cheap reflector housings.
From the information I could find online, the H4666 was more powerful than previous 4x6 headlights, so rather than make it with a standard H4 connection, the shape of the prongs was changed to prevent people from installing it into older cars whose wiring might not be up to the task of handling the newer headlight. Whether or not that's true, I don't know, but it would seem to make sense.
How often have you been getting back to CA, Alex? If you'd like pair of never used/boxes never opened H4666 Silver Stars to take back with you, I've got a set that you're welcome to have, no charge. I bought them for a project a few years ago, then I never ended-up using them. I have no need for them, but I have neither the time, nor the interest in dealing with shipping them to anyone either. You're in Bakersfield, right? I'm in the AV, so that's close enough for me. Whether you use them or get something better, at least you'll have more use for them than I do.
Last edited by LAFireboyd; Mar 8, 2021 at 11:58 PM.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
It looks like the 4x6 Vortex LED headlights can be purchased directly from Vision X, but Vision X recommends purchasing them through Headlight Revolution.
Last edited by LAFireboyd; Jun 24, 2016 at 02:23 AM.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
Edit 6/22/19: Many of the links in this post from three years ago were dead, so I removed them. Today, however, unlike three years ago, there are many 4x6 LED headlights on the market. Most are Chinese knockoffs, so I wouldn't get too excited about them, but some appear to be decent. So if you do web searches for 4x6 LED headlights, you should find A LOT of results, and most of those will be on ebay and Amazon. But for the best of the best, such as JW Speaker, Truck-Lite and Vision X, go to Headlight Revolution and type 4x6 in the website's search engine, and you will find several good products, but most will be for 4-headlight systems, as for Camaros.
And here are some custom 4x6 projector headlights:
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
Bringing this up because I've edited the original post to include product data and images.
As for my "sales pitch" and accused "affiliation" with TLG-Auto/Headlight Revolution/The Headlight Superstore/Black Top Racing/GTR Lighting, my history with them began 3-1/2 years ago, when it was just one little company, TLG-Auto, owned and operated by Chris Nelson(the guy in the videos), located in northern MN. I was searching the internet for 7x6 projector headlights w/HID, the real thing, not ebay fakes. I had neither, the time, nor the desire for a DIY project, so they had to be manufactured products, and they had to fit the car like the stock headlights so as to work properly in the car's functional headlight system. And because form IS just as important as function, they had to look good, too, not like a sloppily-assembled DIY project that only looks good to the person who made it.
So after months of searching, I eventually found the ONLY such manufactured headlight on the market, GTR Lighting's 7x6 Tru-Projector, about which I have a separate thread here on TGO. They were designed by GTR and Chris, specifically for Chris' Fieros and his fellow Fiero enthusiasts, so I contacted him. I didn't know him, he didn't know me, and neither of us were sure about fitment in Firebirds, but he helped me over the phone with details and dimensions. To blindly send me a set to tryout would've been bad business, nor did I even hint at such a proposal, so I purchased them, just like anyone would've had to do, gambling that they would fit, and they did, exactly as calculated. But it was because of his help that I was confident enough to take such an expensive risk. I probably could've purchased and returned them if they hadn't fit, but returning things can cause all kinds of ugliness, so I wanted to be as sure as possible before making the purchase, and it ended-up being an excellent experience from start-to-finish. So as I've stated, I'm merely a very satisfied customer, and he offers great service, along with top-line products.
And look at what he does for the headlight industry and car enthusiasts. It takes a lot of time to produce videos, and he has A LOT of them online, most being about top-line products. He describes the products in great detail, and he demonstrates them for everyone to see, so he's already done most of the "homework" for consumers. And top-line products, particularly top-line, American-made products(which is what people want), carry top-line prices(which people whine about--we see that here on TGO everyday), so demonstrating the products is important for business. Junk is easy to find, but nice products, not-so-easy, so all of those videos are excellent educational tools for the consumer, too. He doesn't just publish products on a website and say, "here they are, come and buy them," like most vendors. He provides support, making sure you'll be getting what you want before you make the purchase, and then by being there for you after the sale. So I am a loyal customer, and I suspect that anyone here who might've had similarly excellent experiences with a specific vendor would probably want to show similar support. Chris' business ventures aren't even tailored toward 3rdgens. He just happens to offer nice products that work for our cars, but the 3rdgen community might never learn about those products and companies, without someone, me, in this case, spreading-the-word. And isn't that how it's supposed to work? Yes, I believe it is.
Last edited by LAFireboyd; Jun 24, 2016 at 02:35 AM.
Re: FINALLY! An Excellent Quality, DOT, Sealed, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds!
I appreciate all the good info here...
I have a 91 Formula and I am on my 2nd attempt at using aftermarket lamps...
1st was HID kit, with cheap housings that eventually turned into a fish / bacteria tank...
2nd, a bit better, using LED.... though still not sealed as it should be, again, due to cheap housings....
$750 is a bit steep, but I will keep a watch, I'm sure prices will drop and other options will become available... I also switched all the other lights to JDM Led's, big difference that made...
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
So I just found this thread, looking for headlight options for my 92 camaro..... And I have to say, these lights look sexy AF. The price however, is astronomical! Wowzer. $699 for just two, and I need four
It looks like most of the people here are firebird owners, would these fit in a camaro too? They should right, it's 4x6.
My other question would be, would four of these work together stock functioning as high (4) and low (2)? Again, i'm assuming yes.... since the big rig in the advertisement is rocking 4.
I'm looking for lights to finally replace my awful stock heads, and these look exactly like i want: LEDs with a rectangle shaped halo light. It would be cool if the halo came in different colors, but white is still good.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
These will fit a Camaro, but like you've already said, 4 would be very expensive. I doubt any 3rdgen Camaro owner would go for them for that reason.
But there are several other options for Camaros, where there's a low beam headlight and a matching high beam headlight, and they cost much less than these, so buying two of each is affordable. Such options just don't work on 91-92 Firebirds, which is why these headlights are significant.
Checkout Headlight Revolution, and search 4x6 headlights. Also do some web searches, and others will probably show up, cheap and good quality. But Headlight Revolution is a great source for distinguishing the good from the not-so-good.
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Since this thread has been revived, I cleaned-up many of the links in an earlier post. After all, it's been three years since I wrote this up, and several of them didn't work anymore. I also did some new web searching, and I discovered many more 4x6 headlights on the market today. Most are cheap knockoffs, so you'll be taking your chances on them. But here are a couple of links to some promising products, and both are dual-beam, high/low headlights that might fit Camaros and 91-92 Firebirds, fitting the topic of this thread.
New from The Retrofit Source is a real bi-xenon projector headlight mounted in a 4x6 ABS housing, which should be excellent. And compared to most retrofit products, this one is very affordable. The listing is for the pair of housings with projectors inside; you'd have to purchase the light source kit of your choice, HID or LED, separately. But given the product's depth, it's questionable that it will fit 91-92 Firebirds. It might, but some modification to the back of the mounting ring looks like it would be necessary. Camaros might have the same issues. These apparently originated at Wile E. Coyote's favorite store. And why not? That place has everything! https://www.theretrofitsource.com/un...headlight.html
Grote is a respected name in lighting for the trucking industry. The authenticity of its LED reflector headlights has come into question, with people believing that they're rebranded knockoffs, which they might be. But these dual-beam 4x6 LED projector headlights look promising, and they should fit 91-92 Firebird without modifications, which means they will also fit Camaros without modifications. I'm not saying they're good or bad, just reporting what I've found. But if these are good products, then they would be another option, along with the Vision X headlights about which this thread was created, that help to fill that void for 91-92 Firebirds. You'll also see individual low beam and high beam headlights for 4-headlight systems that would fit Camaros. Looks like they can be picked-up on Amazon. https://www.grote.com/family/led-sea...rward-lighting
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What is the life expectancy of LED headlights? I suppose regular stock bulbs will always be the cheapest option but if they last 10 or 20 years, that would be pretty dope.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
That information is usually listed in the manufacturer's data. But I believe most LED headlights list a life expectancy in the neighborhood of 30,000 to 50,000 hours. I don't know if I'd believe that's possible, but if they come close to that, then they'd likely outlive our cars... and us.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
Still only 630 (effective) lumen on the grote for the low beam...so-so, barely in the halogen range.Even combined lumen is so-so.
The Acme (RTS) has virtually no info.Plus i dont like how they left the projector lens exposed.Just asking for that to get sandblasted over time with no outer lens to protect it.Might also get stone chipped easily.
Even the Vision line up top has 5894 lumen, but thats combined (pair).So halve that for a single lamp.Thats on 46 watts Vs 35 for HID.
Theyre getting there ,but im still sticking with good ol HID.I still have the same bulbs in my set-up after all these years.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
I purchased a pair of these to see how the low beam and look of them goes with the car. If i like how it turns out, i will definitely grab the other two to match and post up pictures.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
They have come down in price, you can find a pair of the Truck-Lite or JW speakers for around $400 a pair. That's a DOT approved light and some of the JW have heater elements for northern climates. From what I understand the cheaper alternatives have poor light patterns, not DOT approved and blind other drivers. There's a guy in the Houston area with a Callaway C4 ZR-1 that comes out to a lot of stuff, he did the truck-lites and seems to really like them.
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oo i'll have to check those out. I'm hoping to test these out in heavy rain since that's what my issue was before. I could not see much in front of me with the stock lights with silverstar bulbs. If the firefighters use these VisionX headlights, i figured why not . Worth a shot when it comes to my Third Gen
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
I have purchased and dealt with customer service from TRS & Headlight Revolution and have been happy with both.
Headlight Revolution has TONS of helpful videos on YouTube about lights / comparisons / getting proper beam pattern, etc...
Let us know how it goes and post some pics
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
Originally Posted by luvofjah
I have purchased and dealt with customer service from TRS & Headlight Revolution and have been happy with both.
Headlight Revolution has TONS of helpful videos on YouTube about lights / comparisons / getting proper beam pattern, etc...
Let us know how it goes and post some pics
Thanks,
Rafael
I'll keep everyone updated when I get them installed. Plan on upgrading the battery cable at the same time.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
So i finally got around to installing the two VisionX 4x6 headlights i bought a month ago or so. Ill make a separate thread on the installation with pictures and what i ran into incase anyone decides to get some for their thirdgen. As for here i will post what they look like and once i make a video for how they light up on the road, i will post one up this week. I do plan to get the full set and have them all turn on together with halos, and halos+low beams/high beams . the box they came in the info on the side my previous set of healights a close up the back side . very plug and play but do have to swap the red and black wires on the headlight harness to match with the LED ones on the VisionX another rear shot comparison with my old ones on appearance The halo on. these are able to go farther in than my old ones the "halo" on the left is on from my old ones and the halo on the right is very bright and clean looking . Also has the low beams on. i had to get an angle to get a better shot without just seeing a big blur on the snapshot
Well i hope this helps anyone and i will post a video as i said to show how they light up the road. and i will post an update after i get the other set as well and show how they look with the set complete.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
Those look great, 91vertZ28. And so does your car.
If you still have halogen bulbs in your high beam housings, you might want to consider an LED kit. This one from Morimoto is the newest and best one on the market. It will pack a wallop when paired with the high beams of the Vision X headlights, and the color will probably match better than the halogen bulb does. But any cheap LED kit would probably look and perform better than the halogens, too. And high beams, not being regulated, the brightness, aim or beam pattern won't matter. H4: Morimoto 2Stroke 3.0 | Headlight Revolution
By the way, are you sure about those two small upper lights being the low beams, or did I interpret your comment wrongly? I think--those two small upper lights illuminate with the halo, at least, that's what happened when Chris powered the halo in his Headlight Revolution video for these, and the large center light is the low beam, and the two lower deep reflectors are the high beams--I think, but I've never played with them, so I can't say for sure. Or is that center light ON in your pic, but I/we just can't see it because of the angle?
Will the low and high beams illuminate together? I hope so. Chris does it his video, and it's amazing. But for some reason I'm thinking it might require an additional plug-in module to make that happen... or maybe that's the a JW Speaker I'm thinking of.
Very cool, man. Post more when you can.
And blacksunshine, on a web forum for my kind of truck, a rep from Headlight Revolution was posting up some new LED headlight housings coming from Morimoto for the truck. So I pm'd him about the Sealed4, and he said they're in stock and ready to ship. So if you haven't heard anything yet, it sounds like they're on the way, or will be soon. Looking forward to seeing those too! There's a 5x7 model in that headlight that will fit 82-90 Firebirds, so your 4x6 example will be what everyone goes by. Hope to see it in your thread soon. Sounds like you're making great progress over there!
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
Originally Posted by LAFireboyd
And blacksunshine, on a web forum for my kind of truck, a rep from Headlight Revolution was posting up some new LED headlight housings coming from Morimoto for the truck. So I pm'd him about the Sealed4, and he said they're in stock and ready to ship. So if you haven't heard anything yet, it sounds like they're on the way, or will be soon. Looking forward to seeing those too! There's a 5x7 model in that headlight that will fit 82-90 Firebirds, so your 4x6 example will be what everyone goes by. Hope to see it in your thread soon. Sounds like you're making great progress over there!
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
Originally Posted by LAFireboyd
Those look great, 91vertZ28. And so does your car.
If you still have halogen bulbs in your high beam housings, you might want to consider an LED kit. This one from Morimoto is the newest and best one on the market. It will pack a wallop when paired with the high beams of the Vision X headlights, and the color will probably match better than the halogen bulb does. But any cheap LED kit would probably look and perform better than the halogens, too. And high beams, not being regulated, the brightness, aim or beam pattern won't matter. H4: Morimoto 2Stroke 3.0 | Headlight Revolution
By the way, are you sure about those two small upper lights being the low beams, or did I interpret your comment wrongly? I think--those two small upper lights illuminate with the halo, at least, that's what happened when Chris powered the halo in his Headlight Revolution video for these, and the large center light is the low beam, and the two lower deep reflectors are the high beams--I think, but I've never played with them, so I can't say for sure. Or is that center light ON in your pic, but I/we just can't see it because of the angle?
Will the low and high beams illuminate together? I hope so. Chris does it his video, and it's amazing. But for some reason I'm thinking it might require an additional plug-in module to make that happen... or maybe that's the a JW Speaker I'm thinking of.
Very cool, man. Post more when you can.
Thanks @LAFireboyd , it's my high school dream car since 2007 , and welp i went to go look right now and you were right on something being up with how my lights were turning on . So i guess i have to switch the green and red wire since i have the high beams( the two bottom ones) turning on and my low beams not coming on right after the halos. Ahahaha thanks for the comment, since it made my go check out what was coming on. I'll repair it tomorrow after work and post new pics. Thanks for the catch on my mistake ill also take video tomorrow as well with a drive around the block to see their range. Oh and i am planning to get matching headlights to have the four halos and low beams coming on together( no high beam for now til i install the metal rod by the steering wheel high beam lever) . And also yes the low/high beams can turn on together but you will need the extra plug they offer but says its for offroad only so i didnt get it for my application but the option is there . P-HLHI4 9895475 Engages all three beam modes simultaneously to dramatically increase visibility and light output. That's the part number and item
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
Ah, yes, the infamous, "high-tech" high beam activator design. Oh, to have been involved in that Think Tank? "But boss, without being able to step on the switch, like when you were young, then how will the driver reach it?" "No idea, but for now, so I don't have to lay underneath the dash and push on the switch with my hand, how about handing me that thin metal rod over there. I'll slide it down the column to test the switch, and then we'll figure it out tomorrow." "Dammit, I just broke a piece of plastic off of the column cover. Put that piece of plastic on the tip of the rod; I'll use it to cushion my hand when I push on the rod."
Wow, four of those low beams on altogether. That will be intense. Good alignment will be critical. Sure will look good, on and off.
You never know, you might take the 'vert off-roading some night. Maybe for a drive on the beach, really dark out there when there's no moon. You'd never have the high beams on in the face of oncoming traffic anyway, but whenever you're out there alone, all that light would be great to have. At least you know it's there if you feel the need in the future.
This is exciting. And I'm not even one of the people with any of these new lights. But I've probably been wanting to see all of these lights more than anyone else, so it's great to finally see them.
I like bringing attention to great new products like this, that can benefit 3rdgens. I'm just a consumer like anyone else. Not an HR homer, no sponsorships, no discounts, no kickbacks. I just love this stuff. And speaking of great new products that 3rdgens can use, I'm writing a new thread for a new LED(not a headlight). Just haven't decided which forum yet.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
Originally Posted by blacksunshine'91
Yes, I got an email. They were shipped out today.
Cool. Good to know. You could be the first person in the world to get the Morimoto Sealed4 headlight! So the world, at least, the world of TGO, or maybe just me, will be waiting to see how they work. No pressure
BTW, the HR rep also said they'd be posting a video about it sometime in late December, early January. Obviously, you, and hopefully we, will know before then.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
@LAFireboyd Lol that is hilarious , engineering at it's best . if im taking it offroading, it'll have to wait til i get the Hawks roll bars they have for the convertible And i agree it is exciting to have all these new products that can be used for the third gens. The reason i picked up the VisionX was that no on seemed to want to buy them due to the cost and uncertainty of how they would look probably. So i wanted to help provide a review for the third gen community so they dont have to spend a hefty penny and end up regretting these expensive headlights. And plus , pictures and videos are always great info for everyone so they don't have to hunt down real hard for forums on this stuff. I'd figure just providing links to the other headlights' respective threads so people can compare between the pricier options when you do make a thread on those.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
Morimoto make great stuff, they and Diode Dynamics are the two big boys in aftermarket quality lighting for autos. I have stuff from both, both aces. I have a set of the Morimoto XB LED sealed headlights in my Ram with their fog lights, great look and output down the road. The 4x6 lights coming from them will be killer. I really thought of pre ordering the 5X7 version that they are releasing at the same time for my TA. I currently run the Trucklites on the 'bird, so wanna see and hear the feedback when these get in folks hands before I spend more $$, the Trucklites really are great. Even though these Morimotos will be better, the $$ may not be worth it for the difference for me....
I really want to hear your feedback when you get them on.
Re: FINALLY! DOT, LED Headlight For 91-92 Firebirds! (Mfg Data/Images Inside)
They arrived today. Realized I forgot to buy the wire harness adapter, so I'm going to see if I can source the parts this weekend to connect them. But in the meantime, I put one of them in to test fit it. It fits perfectly! ZERO gaps or anything that required any adjustment.