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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 12:21 PM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS Vert
Engine: 350 S-TPI
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Cargo Cover

Can anyone get my exact dimensions as to where to cut the holes to install the stock cargo rollup/cover. Also, how long of screws am I gonna need??


Very up close and detailed pics might help also.

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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 12:29 AM
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From: Hellfire and Brimstone!...A.K.A. portland
Car: 91' TRANS AM Modified
Engine: Classified
Transmission: Auto with Overdrive
CARGO COVER INSTALL

I just placed it right up behind the back seat and left a quarter inch gap and got a piece of thin aluminum 2"x4" inches and cut it in half and cut out the "U" shapes for the edges of the cargo cover
and used 3/4 inch screws, (3) each per mounting brackett and don't forget the trunk mount piece will have to be replaced to extend the cover in place when finished ,It only took me like 15 minutes to install with a drill and cordless screwdriver and some additional velcro for the outter edges never hurts but it keeps the cover in place so when you close the trunk it will not unhook and retract on you when you're driving!

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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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Ok. The end retainers I have looks like a hole has to be cut in the current panels. Thats why I was wanting exact location. These panels are big, and I know will be hard and expensive to find if I fubar one.

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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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From: Hellfire and Brimstone!...A.K.A. portland
Car: 91' TRANS AM Modified
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Transmission: Auto with Overdrive
CARGO COVER

I also got the retainers as well but I found that steel supports would aslo have to be welded into place from inside the steel housing of the said vehicle and that mean also cutting the paneling too but those are the options you got to work with and welding is costly too and if there is a short cut way that is inexpensive go for it!...hell ya only live once!
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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Car: 1992 RS Heritage Edt.
Engine: 305(LO3)
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Hey guys, I got a cover too and was wondering how I was going to install it I know that the factory supports are welded to the body I think that if I put a piece of metal behind the holder it shoud hold. Can either one of you tell me where to get the piece that goes on the hatch lid that hold the two hooks of the cover?
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:04 AM
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:11 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
For one thing, in my interior trim panels there was a template for where to cut the hole... BUT you have to remove them to get to them to cut them out... MATTER OF FACT, they are keyed in a certain way to make sure you line them up properly if I remember right.

I had to fab some brackets, and screw them to the car, and then I just re-assembled everything back together and then took the screws I got from the salvage yard to the bracket, worked like a charm the first time...

John
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:34 AM
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So you fab'd the piece in the pic above? If thats all I need to do I'll be all over it this weekend.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
correct, I took some sheet metal. The car that I snagged the cover from I measured the approximate size and location the depth that I would need, and on the bottom I made some flanges, and used some self-drilling & tapping screws, used my handy dandy cordless drill and went to town.

You DO NOT NEED TO WELD THEM IN... Use Screws, they are fine...

When I put everything back together it fit perfect, no one can tell that I put it in, especially with the trim pieces...

I used a VERY sharp utiliy knife/razor blade to cut it out.. just be careful... removing more is easy, putting back is hard.

John
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 07:32 AM
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Car: 1992 RS Heritage Edt.
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Thanks okfoz, my buddy has one I can measure from. I'll take some pic and get them posted soon.
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 07:40 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
one MORE thing attach the brackets to the car (screw them to the chasis)
AFTER you cut out the holes in the trim pieces put them back on the car assemble everything to make sure you get a good fit..

then use your interior trim to align the holders and then you will not need to worry about alignment when you screw the holders to the bracket...

does that mae sence?

John
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 07:44 AM
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Car: 1992 RS Heritage Edt.
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Cool, I got it. Thanks for the tips!:hail:
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 03:47 PM
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Car: 86 T/A
Engine: 305 tuned port
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
where did you get these roll up cargo covers from and where can i find one in desperate need of one
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Originally posted by mc86T/A
where did you get these roll up cargo covers from and where can i find one in desperate need of one
I have gotten about 3 of them in salvage yards, paid $5 for some and about $20 for others, it depends on where you get them... that usually included the hardware. (EXCEPT THE METAL BRACKETS THAT YOU NEED TO FAB)

You can buy NEW from classicindustries.com tho Your looking at about 150-200 tho for all of the parts...

REMEMBER TO GET THE TRIM PIECE FROM THE HATCH IT HAS A METAL BRACKET TO ATTACH THE SHADE TO THE HATCH

IF you decide to be rich, and buy from Classic Industries, they only have them listed in the Camaro Book and not the fireird book... but Camaro and Firebird shades are IDENTICAL...

John

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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 07:54 AM
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the shade are all over e-bay, thats where I got mine, its brand new too. hey OKFOZ, where can i get just the peice for the hatch? or do I have to make it?
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 08:22 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
you have to fab it, unless you happen to get a piece from a hatch that is the same color as your interior... the piece is basically the same as the non-shade type but there are 2 slots, and a metal bracket behind it that you attach the shade to.

John
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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is the metal bracket one piece with the trim panel or can I fab just the metal piece?
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 05:06 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
I think it was riveted to the trim panel, I THINK... have to look...

you MIGHT be able to fab a metal piece, but if you score one in a salvage yard just get the piece it will save you some work...

John
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