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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 08:05 PM
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my headliner is busted.... help

i drive an 84 Z28 with t-tops and the headliner is being really gay. The cloth is sagging and i cant figure out how i could get it to stick back to the headliner. Would a glue stick work?
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 08:05 PM
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also, how do you guys get those pictures in your sig? an url?
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 08:10 AM
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yeah .. a url .. like this:

[Ximg]http://www.go.com/picture.jpg[X/img]

except take out those x's.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 08:55 AM
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Just use spray trim adhesive. I use "3M General Trim Adhesive - Clear".

I just re-covered my T-Top headliner, speaker covers & sun visors.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 02:51 PM
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Do this Mine was really bad too. Im not sayin you shouldnt try to fix it. Mine was just so bad, and I used so much 3M adhesive to make it stay, I got fed up and ripped it out. Plus my headliner backing was rotted to hell. Looks must better bare metal. Then again, I have T-tops...if you have a hard top, it wouldnt look too good. Im savin for a new one. They are darn expensive tho!

Justin

Wait I just saw you have t-tops.. This way looks much better when the tops are out. No one notices its gone.
Attached Thumbnails my headliner is busted.... help-265998_10_full.jpg  

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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:38 PM
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I notice (and everybody else as well) and think it looks like crap... that's why I finally took the one out of my '86 and put it into my '89 (after re-covering it).

I was going to get the fiberglass T-top liner from the Classic Industries for $18x-something, but then saw an ABS plastic one for $150 on-line.

If your particle board is shot, then no amount of glue will make the headliner material stick.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:08 PM
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so how do you spray it on?? just directly on the cloth or do i take the headliner out and spray underneath the cloth? pics would maybe help.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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djunod...i didnt mean NO ONE would notice. I know everyone here notices, cuz I have a pic of it. I would LOVE to put a new headliner in. My old backing was so crappy. It basically fell apart when taking it out. But now that its gone, from outside the car, you cant even tell. Haha...actually, I never took my headliner down all the way. Most of it blew off on the highway one day with the tops out. Oh well. Where is the best place to get replacment t-top headliners these days? I havent really found any good deals on them.

Justin
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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try that hawks dude. at the top of the page.. or one of those other guys.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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Check the Yellow Pages of your Phone book for Auto Reupholstery shops. You can get the headliner installed so it looks like the factory one. It will also be cheaper in time and money then sending away for a replacement. Had mine done that way and it looks really great. My opinion.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 05:34 PM
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The headliner in my 91 was sagging so I ripped it all out. But I did it for two reasons. #1 I wanted to check for rust. #2 I want to convert the interior to black so I need a new one anyway. I plan to get a black one from www.1aautomotive.com for $150. Here is how they describe it:

THE SHELL IS MADE OF MOLDED ABS PLASTIC WHICH UNLIKE THE ORIGINAL PRESSBOARD SHELL WILL NOT ABSORB MOISTURE AND PROVIDES BETTER ADHESION. THESE HEADLINERS ALSO USE A NYLON PADDING WHICH WILL NOT DETERIORATE LIKE THE ORIGINAL PADDING. YOU GET THE SAME GREAT LOOK AS ORIGINAL WITH MUCH BETTER MATERIALS.

And it costs something like $120 to ship to Hawaii (something crazy like that) but its ok because I will be ordering two sets of black headliners (one hardtop, one t-top) and two sets of black carpet at one time. The only thing I have to check on is to see if they weigh more than the stock pieces (since it says THESE HEADLINERS SHIP UPS 70LB RATE). I doubt they really weigh 70 pounds each.

If you want to keep your color and the pressboard is in good shape then just have a local reupholstery shop do it. Shouldnt be more than $50 and no hassle for you.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by 84Z28_5.7ltr_V8
so how do you spray it on?? just directly on the cloth or do i take the headliner out and spray underneath the cloth? pics would maybe help.
Take out the headliner (being very careful, since it is friggin fragile). Remove the material. Spray the 3M Trim Adhesive onto the pressboard. Lay the material back onto the pressboard. Use a tube of trim adhesive to glue the material onto the back of the pressboard.

Most fabric stores sell headliner material, and it is much less expensive at a fabric store ($4 - 6 yard) then at an automotive upholstery supply shop ($20 - $25 yard), at least here in Augusta GA.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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Would ironing it work? Mine isn't that bad, only one spot, but would that work?
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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Once that Headliner starts to sag----ITS HISTORY. No amount of quick or dirty fixes are going to salvage it----ITS SHOT. Face up to the fact it going to need replacing.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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thanks for the tiips guys! maybe ill just take it to a place in the city to get it done when i get my seats done. By the way, how much do you figure it would cost to get seats cleaned, and small burns fixed?? a general price would help. Or does anyone know of a really good upolstry (sp?) cleaner out there that i could use?
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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I found a local upholstery shop that replaced my headliner, and recovered the rear speaker panels for $ 120. It looks BETTER than factory, too. He will steam the seats and carpet and detail the interior for $75. don't know what other shops are like, but in my area I would highly recommend him.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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thats not to shabby!
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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my suggestion is similar to djunod's. I redid my headliner on a non f-body so i didn't have the t-tops to deal with. I was going to try to reattach the original headliner but it was jsut falling apart. so i took the entire thing out of the car and removed everything from the board. I made sure that every bit was off of it so i had a good surface to work on. I went to a fabric store and got some headliner material for pretty cheap. I used the 3M trim adhesive and did the whole thing... it fell down 2 days later. So i did the whole thing over again with another 3M adhesive that was heavy dudy and that worked well. It actually started seperating again about a year later but the car was crap and i sold it. If you're looking for something to really last, getting a new backing board would be reccomended. Mine looked great for the year it lasted though and cost maybe a total of $20
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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Just a another example for getting it done professionally and not worrying about it falling down again. But it your car and you can do anything you want with it.
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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what is the headliner made out of?? looks like cardboard or something... a cheap way to fix it would be to just buy new cloth and then cut out the same shape as the headliner and put it in.. ?
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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84Z28_5.7ltr_V8: check out my post on repairing headliners: Repaired my headliner... a few lessons. It should help.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 01:53 AM
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thanks! that really helps!
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