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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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From: Crawfordsville Indiana
Car: 85 trans am
Engine: 79 4 bolt 350
Transmission: 700r4
what kind and year steering column will work in my car?

i need to replace my whole steering column and i found alot that have cruise control but my car doesnt have cruise control. will it still fit? and what years will work in my 85 t/a? and i had ALOT of problems with my turn signal's not working, so is there any parts i should make sure to get along with the steering column so that they work? thanks alot
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Here is the break downs
Of couse they are all similar, but from the Parst & Illustration catalogs here is what they break out as different part #'s

IF you want an EXACT fit, there are 9 different part numbers for 84-86.

1) AUTO Trans (MD8 (NO PULSE WIPER (CD4), NO TILT WHEEL N33 - 7842505

2) Same as #1 but WITH pulse Wiper - 7842506

3) Same as #1 but with Manual Trans - 7842507

4) Same as #2 but WITH Manual Trans - 784508

5) Auto Trans (MD8) (NO PULSE WIPER (CD4), WITH TILT WHEEL N33 - 7842511

6) Same as # 5 but with pulse wiper - 7842512

7) Same as #5 but with manual Trans - 7842513

8) Same as #6 but with Manual Trans - 7842514
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Here is the break downs
Of couse they are all similar, but from the Parst & Illustration catalogs here is what they break out as different part #'s

IF you want an EXACT fit, there are 8 different part numbers for 84-86.

1) AUTO Trans (MD8 (NO PULSE WIPER (CD4), NO TILT WHEEL N33 - 7842505

2) Same as #1 but WITH pulse Wiper - 7842506

3) Same as #1 but with Manual Trans - 7842507

4) Same as #2 but WITH Manual Trans - 784508

5) Auto Trans (MD8) (NO PULSE WIPER (CD4), WITH TILT WHEEL N33 - 7842511

6) Same as # 5 but with pulse wiper - 7842512

7) Same as #5 but with manual Trans - 7842513

8) Same as #6 but with Manual Trans - 7842514
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
They should all interchange. If you don't have cruise, and you put a column from a cruise vehicle in, you just won't have cruise. I believe the harness that plugs into the column is the same in all cases.

You could always pull the column apart and fix/replace whatever isn't working in yours.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Jim is right, I am pretty sure there all basically the same, the Differences are probably all swapable from one to the other...

I Just don't know why there is a diff between a manual and an Automatic transmission. Its not like we ever had a Column shift...
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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From: Winnipeg, Canada
Car: 1982 Trans Am
Engine: 350 Crate
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.23
I have a manual 82 car that had a non-tilt column. I swapped in a tilt column from an automatic later year Firebird.

There are various differences. You cannot interchange some of the guts between tilt and non tilt columns, such as the turn signal stalk guts. The turn signal lever itself can be switched though.

Ignition switches are flipped 180 degrees between tilt and non tilt (but plug into the same harness)

The only difference on a manual car is it has a button you have to press at the same time as you turn the ignition off and pull the key out. A safety feature, that's all. You don't need it.

Generally though, they all interchange and bolt up. I STRONGLY suggest you find an entire column similar to yours. Take EVERYTHING, such as the high beam control, ignition switch, etc. If you can't find one with the correct wiper control, cruise or no cruise, etc, it's not the end of the world, you can switch those guts later.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
Originally posted by okfoz
Jim is right, I am pretty sure there all basically the same, the Differences are probably all swapable from one to the other...

I Just don't know why there is a diff between a manual and an Automatic transmission. Its not like we ever had a Column shift...
The automatics have a park lock cable that goes from the shifter to the column. I for the life of me couldn't figure out how the hell to get it off my steering column, so I left it attached when I did the swap. My original 5-speed cars don't have that attachment.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
thats right... I forgot about the Manual key lock thingie, and the Automatic Lock for the shifter...

And I have one of each

John
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