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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 04:56 AM
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Notch Back

Any one got pics of a firebird with a notch back? More spefically of the one gtautoacc.net offers? I would do a search but well...
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:01 AM
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i think this is what you want , i hope i helped.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:05 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:07 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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Thats the hatch that my IROC has...I like it but theres not much visibility out of the back window....It makes the car look soo much better.....

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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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Out of curiousity, does anyone know why they didnt make a replica of the original Notchback design?

I imagine no one wanted to give it up as a mold, lol.

Im not raggin on GTAuto, i think we're very fortunate to havea company willing to reproduce old and new parts for out generation cars, im just curious why the completely differnet design...
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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I believe the reason he did not dulicate the original 88 hatch was there is some structural challenges to the original design. George's (GTAuto's) design is stronger.


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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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There are at least three aftermarket ones that have been available (Motion Glass, GT Auto, and some company out of Texas), but I still prefer the original one. The original notchback to me looks natural, like it belongs...the others to me look like they're trying to make the 3rd gen into something its not. If I can get my hands on an original notch, I know a few people who would probably help me make repros.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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theres a guy in my town... Edison, NJ whos selling an original notchback 67K miles... when i asked him how much he was asking $12,500 for it... such a sweet looking car
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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GTAutos design is completley hideous. If you look at it from the side, it has the EXACT same dimensions as the stock glass... this leads me to believe that their hatch was merely molded from a stock hatch, with a section cut out. At least, thats the impression I get. The whole point of the notchback is to enhance the body lines for the car, and GTAutos does nothign of the sort.

If you would like a hatch that is close to origonal, call Motion Glass, in NY. Their hatch is pretty close to the origional.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 04:30 AM
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Yeah i dont like it.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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I like the way gtauto's looks but it happens to be on a camaro not a firebird . I like the lines of it and losing the 8 billion pound stock glass piece would be cool.

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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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Is that spoiler centerpiece built into the notchback, or did they just primer the whole center? I was thinking a notchback might look even better without the spoiler.

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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 10:44 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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I Believe that the Stock Notchback used the base Firebird Spoiler and high mount light.

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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by 88 WS6 TransAm GTA
GTAutos design is completley hideous. If you look at it from the side, it has the EXACT same dimensions as the stock glass... this leads me to believe that their hatch was merely molded from a stock hatch, with a section cut out. At least, thats the impression I get. The whole point of the notchback is to enhance the body lines for the car, and GTAutos does nothign of the sort.
Agreed. The aftermarket notchback looks horrbile compared to a factory notchback (or the glass hatch for that matter).

From the side it looks like someone forgot to mask off the rear window before it went into a paint booth.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by SBlackfoot
From the side it looks like someone forgot to mask off the rear window before it went into a paint booth.
It does! :sillylol:
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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Oh and the stock notchback uses a 3rd brake light under the spoiler, as in the picture of the red one above.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Cronic3rd
I like the way gtauto's looks but it happens to be on a camaro not a firebird . I like the lines of it and losing the 8 billion pound stock glass piece would be cool.
I'd bet the GTAuto one isn't much lighter than a stock rear glass, if its not heavier.

Stock notchbacks came with the stock pedestal style Firebird spoiler...Aerowings wouldn't fit, and they weren't going to make a specific one for so few cars.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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just my opinion but i don't really like them
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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http://community.webshots.com/album/47844782dELDPG


here is a few pics of mine with the notch interior is gutted now putting in 4th gen leather carpet and grey pannels....also power windows...pic comming soon on the progress
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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Very nice car Paul...I especially like the flames!
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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must limit vision back there too.. the rear pillars are already enough of a blind spot!!
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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thanks LT1....... yes the blind spot takes a little getting used to..but no big deal now
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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Nice bird paul. Thankx. BTW gtautos claims 1/2 the weight of the stock peice with their notchback.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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thanks yes it is much lighter i can handle the notch with no help took it off a few times and put it back with no problem but the glass one is another story
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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I don't like the GTAuto notchback, but this image from your site looks good. Kind'of reminds me of a Testarossa.
http://community.webshots.com/image2...4fZPxbS_ph.jpg

However, I can't stand the profile of it. I like the look of the stock notchback because of the different body line it gives the car. THe GTAuto notchback doens't change the profile lines at all.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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yea i much rather have a factory style...been looking for 2 years finaly found one and the guy decided from all the calls he got it was very desirable and kept it.....but the gt auto from the rear i like the looks. it grows on you now i like it alot

the link you put up does not work btw
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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This one is for sale...



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6427
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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I like the look of the factory notchback better than the GTAuto's. Theres looks like they just got a regular hatch glass used it to make the form of the mold, and then made the notchback part. I like the fatcory one because it changes the body lines and looks more subtile than the GTAuto's.
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