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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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Is this (fiberglass hood) fixable?

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I just got my SS hood today and the passenger side corner (by the windshield) is broken off. Any of you that work with 'glass think that this is fixable? The hood was insured, so the shipping company should pay to fix it, if it can be fixed. I can't get it to a body shop until Wed, but I want to know. No, I really NEED to know. Here is a pic of the corner. Let me know what you think.

Thanks in advance. Thomas
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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The chunk

Here is the chunk that came off.

Sorry for the size, but I wanted you guys to see the detail.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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Call the company you bought it from. Then the shipper to tell them they owe you a new hood. That is going to be a tough fix.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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i had a really small piece broken off my fiberglass, its a ram air 2 hood and the body man said that he needed a special type of fiberglass to match it up to the hood. like it was greasy of something compared to the normal glass. I think that could be fixed but the guys at the body shop wont be too happ to fix that and that corner will always be brittle.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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Use the insurance

After all you paid for a new hood and they did not bring you one! Be interesting if the just offer a settlement?? Les
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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tom, i'd just have them send you another hood.... sound to me it wasn't properly crated, or the transport company wasn't very careful in handling it.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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when I recived my harwood hood both corners were broken like that. I've been doing fiberglass for a good year or so now. And it wasn't "easy" but wasnt very hard of a fix. took mea bout a day to fix and is very strong on the corners once again.


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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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Well, I bought the hood from another member here on the boards, Irocdaddy. The hood was packed really well. Even the delivery guy said that he was suprised that it broke. You can see on the corner of the box where it was dropped or smashed. The seller insured the hood for $350.00, what I paid for it. Shipping was $170.00.

I talked with Irocdaddy about it today, and he was upset that it broke. He really packed it well with foam and about 3" of bubble wrap per side of the hood.

Anyone know of a good glasser in Tucson? I am trying to be positive about this. Just keep the opinions coming. Thanks.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:59 PM
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i guess these things happen

as long as it was insured, it should be taken care of, i'd like to think

i can't wait to see the finished product, though
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 11:07 PM
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Wow, if the shipper charged you that much & then broke a well-packed hood- they need to cut a nice big check to the body shop. I'd check their policy on items damaged during transit... if you can't get them to buy you a new hood, maybe they'll let you get a couple estimates from body shops and pay you off.

If you do have a body shop fix it, see if they'll include in the price the cost of trimming down the edges. New 'glass hoods always have about a 1" lip all the way around. I just trimmed mine down this weekend and glassed the inside edge (between the inner section and outer section). Now it looks a lot better. You'll also notice in the pic that I had to do a little work on the corner as well- though I only had a couple hairline cracks.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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That hood could be fixed...but unless they really make it worth your while (pay the claim and let you keep it), I wouldn't bother. Any shop is going to charge you several hours labor to fix that, and it still might crack later.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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Man..that's a shame....it looks like it could be fixed....but..man..that just sucks that that happened...good luck..
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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I am going to try and call some body shops that do work on Corvettes. Since they are mostly 'glass, they should be able to fix this. I am going to get UPS to pay for the whole thing. The seller and I are trying to get them to refund all my money, to include the shipping charges. If the hood cant be fixed, then they just bought a broke SS hood.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by 88aziroc
I am going to try and call some body shops that do work on Corvettes. Since they are mostly 'glass, they should be able to fix this. I am going to get UPS to pay for the whole thing. The seller and I are trying to get them to refund all my money, to include the shipping charges. If the hood cant be fixed, then they just bought a broke SS hood.
UPS ships things that big!?!
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:12 AM
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A common mistake people make when using fiberglass hoods is to keep using the OE hood shocks. When the hood is closed, the shocks will put pressure on the mounting points of the hood, and over time (years) this will cause the hood to weaken in those areas and possibly crack. I have seen this in person on my friends 2nd gen. Since the hood is damaged in that area, I think you should get a new one from the people who made it. That is unless you plan not to use hood shocks, or you plan to make the hood full pin on. If you get it fixed, the hood will be weak in that area, and if you use OE hood shocks then you might be having more problems with the hood later on down the road. My .02
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:53 AM
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their is a place in mesa that does boats and jet skis it's by the old super shops on main st. or by lopers (cant remember that well) if you know where that is anyway it's a drive but they do good work
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
A common mistake people make when using fiberglass hoods is to keep using the OE hood shocks. When the hood is closed, the shocks will put pressure on the mounting points of the hood, and over time (years) this will cause the hood to weaken in those areas and possibly crack.
That is why you should use the hood shocks from the 82-83 Camaro with the Cross-fire fiberglass hood. They are much weaker and will not cause undue stress on the hood mounting points. Autozone carries these in normal stock.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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that really sux i say get a new one it looks like it's going to be some time to get it fixed so i'd just have them ship you a new one for free.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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88aziroc -

First problem I think you have is that this hood was purchased not from a business, but a private individual (therefore, I don't think he has another one just "laying" around to ship to you).

Second, $350 sounds like a low amount to insure it for. It should have been insured for the cost of replacing it with a new one.

Third, that sounds like a hefty shipping charge (but I know it varies upon shipping company).

Since the hood was insured for what you paid and not a replacement cost from a vendor of those hoods, you could request the shipping company pay the amount to have a shop fix it.... Unless you can prove to them the replacement cost of the item.

Bumming dude.....
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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I have already talked to UPS and they said that they will pay to have it fixed or pay me the 350 plus refund the shipping, if it can not be fixed. The seller faxed me the shipping paperwork and it did cost 172 to ship.

Now, for some good news. I just took the hood to a body shop here in Tucson where they have been doing 'glass for over 40 years. The owner told me that it is an easy fix and would only charge me 75 to fix it!!! Happy days are here again.

He does a lot of fiberglass repair for boats and stuff and said that it would be as good as new. He also told me that he would prep it and paint it for 100 plus material. He has done many hood repairs of this nature and said that the hood will be as strong, if not stronger, then new. Gotta talk him into a warranty.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I will post pics of the first SS hood shipped to southern Arizona as soon as I get it on.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by 88aziroc
Manic,
I have already talked to UPS and they said that they will pay to have it fixed or pay me the 350 plus refund the shipping, if it can not be fixed. The seller faxed me the shipping paperwork and it did cost 172 to ship.

Now, for some good news. I just took the hood to a body shop here in Tucson where they have been doing 'glass for over 40 years. The owner told me that it is an easy fix and would only charge me 75 to fix it!!! Happy days are here again.

He does a lot of fiberglass repair for boats and stuff and said that it would be as good as new. He also told me that he would prep it and paint it for 100 plus material. He has done many hood repairs of this nature and said that the hood will be as strong, if not stronger, then new. Gotta talk him into a warranty.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I will post pics of the first SS hood shipped to southern Arizona as soon as I get it on.
88aziroc - Can't ask for it any better then that. If the shop repairs fiberglass on baots then this hood should be simple for them. And it's good to hear the shipping company is taking care of you. Congrats and I and everyone else are awaiting the pics when this done
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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I'd get a couple of estimates from body shops that want a lot more to repair the hood and send those to UPS. Then when they cut you the big check, take it to the guy who only wants $75.

You know, a little something for the effort.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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That is also called insurance fraud. That is why it cost so much to ship the hood in the first place. Just get what you deserve from them. You never know who is on this board

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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That is also called insurance fraud. That is why it cost some much to ship the hood in the first place. Just get what you deserve from them. You never know who is on this board
I was under the impression that UPS themselves were cutting a check, not their insurance company. The "extra" money would pay for all of his time dealing with this mess and transporting the hood to & from the body shop.

I (along with ES87Iroc) also wondered how UPS came to deliver the hood. I've bought 2 'glass hoods and they both had to go truck freight because they were too big for UPS.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 06:07 AM
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I was under the impression that UPS themselves were cutting a check, not their insurance company. The "extra" money would pay for all of his time dealing with this mess and transporting the hood to & from the body shop.

I (along with ES87Iroc) also wondered how UPS came to deliver the hood. I've bought 2 'glass hoods and they both had to go truck freight because they were too big for UPS.
I tried to ship a aerowing and they said it was too big, their size constrait for normal items was 108" max girth.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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I know UPS will take some pretty large packages (for a lot extra $), but I wasn't aware they would take a hood either. Fedex Ground has good rates on large spoilers and things like that, and they're less restrictive on size than UPS. I doubt a truck freight company would have charged so much.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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I am going to get UPS to pay for the repair and maybe a little extra for the "trouble". It has been a nightmare dealing with this. It is not easy to transport a hood without a truck. Luckily, a good friend and his wife helped me out. We almost lost the hood going down the road, due to high winds. I almost loaded my shorts!

The shipping was set up by UPS and then contracted out to a frieght company. The seller called around and 170 was the best he could get for a hood shipment.

UPS will be cutting the check. Although they say it takes between 2 and 4 months to process. What a load of bull! Oh well, at least I can pay to have it fixed and get them to reimburse me.

I should be picking up the hood today. Another guy on the board is coming over to help me put it on. Cant wait. I will get some pics as soon as it is on. Thomas
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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IT IS FIXED!!!

The shop did a perfect job fixing my hood. If it were not for the primer, you could not even tell it was repaired. Here is a pic.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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One more.

The hood is going on my car as soon as some friends get here to help. I will post pics once it is on the car.

I have to wait to get it painted until this guy I know gets his shop up. Should be about 2 weeks or so.

I want to thank you guys for helping me out.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 08:42 PM
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UPS mangles everyother package I get Glad it worked out well.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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Woah, nice job!

UPS has brutally violated so many packages of mine it's not even funny.

FED EX has never messed up anything of mine.:hail:
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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Woah, nice job!

UPS has brutally violated so many packages of mine it's not even funny.

FED EX has never messed up anything of mine.:hail:
UPS= union

Fedex= non union

Thats the difference...at UPS they don't have to care.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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Hey Tom, are you going to post some pics with the new hood on your car???
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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Yes, I will post some tonight. I just put the hood on late last night, and it was too dark to take pics. Amber even got some "working" shots of us putting it on.

I will take some pics when I get off at 2 or so.

I will keep you guys updated on the progress.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 03:45 PM
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had the same problem with US body source, i had to fix it myself or wait 4 weeks for a stupid claim to get processed, or 8 weeks to get a new hood, plus i would have had to pay shipping so....... i just fixed it myself no big deal glad to hear you got it fixed
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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A couple of pics with the hood on. Not painted or aligned yet, but you can get the idea. Let me know what you guys think.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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One more of another angle.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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Hey where are the pictures of us putting the hood on???
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If any of you guys have that problem again and need some help repairing it, send me an email at andreaandmark98@hotmail.com. I do composites (fiberglass and carbon fiber) in the Navy and I know a few things.
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