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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 12:36 AM
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Car: 1986 Iroc-z
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in need of special lug nut tool

l have an 86 iroc with 16 inch factory iroc rims. The rims have a special locking lug nut. it is the rounded lug nut with stagered cut outs around the outside. The tool is know were to be found. I have looked every where dealers, parts stores, and tire shops. Does anyone know some way or place were i can get this tool or a method to getting the lug nuts off. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 01:00 AM
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Any dealership should have them. I got mine from the local dealership, but they had to take a box full of them outside to try each one to find the correct key. I think there was like 10 or so different keys that were made. Cost me $15 for the keyed socket, but what are you gonna do. I figured for the $15, I'd just keep the keyed lugs and have the peace of mind that my wheels wouldnt get ripped off up here at my apartment in the city.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 01:01 AM
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hey 2 of my friends have had the same problem and we took a twelve point socket and hammered it on to get them off.. it will wreak the locking nuts but u dont got a key newayz..
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 01:07 AM
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There usually will be no replacement, the lug nuts are sold in sets of 4 one for each wheel, with a key. There might have been duplicate keys used in different sets, but I sincerely doubt it, I have seen many, and none the same.

I was out in the woods when I couldnt find my key with a flat tire. I used a cold chisel. A solid heavy steel chisel. I hammered and hammered until I had a decent notch on the outside of the locking lug nut. After I had a good notch cut in it, I turned the cold chisel sideways, and spun it off.

I have run into this problem several times. A different time, we tryed to use vice grips and ruined the locking lug key, we ended up using a torch and ruining the wheel, and the rotor.

Yet another time we used a small pipe wrench with a cheater pipe. This one worked really well, if you can use a pipe wrench, and it will get in there, I would do it for sure, most likely your best bet.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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Ahh we've done that too! hammer on an oversized socket! its been done easy i might add!

cant belive I forgot that
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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Car: 88 Iroc Convertible
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If you are going to hammer on a socket - just make sure you use a craftsman (guaranteed for life) socket (usually 1/2" works) just in case the socket brakes!

Funny thing about these wheel locks is that they are really pretty easy to take off!
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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Yeah, easy to get off a bitch to try to get them off the socket.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Just put the socket in a vice, put a screwdriver through the back, and hammer it out. Usually only takes one good hit.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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I tried that when I was taking my trans crossmember off. The socket wasn't exactly straight so it kept turning in the vice. I end'd up using a punch on all the sides of the bolt and it eventually worked it's way free for a final hit in the center and it popped out.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
I experienced a similiar problem. A local tire shop had a kit that worked wonderfully--actually, it was pretty much like the socket approach mentioned above.

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Well there is a way to do it. I left my car to have new tires put and on the way back to pick it up I realized I didn't give them the key lug. They managed to change the tires, and the lugs are still on there undamaged. I think they have some kind of set similar to the oversize socket thing but less destructive they use.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Engine: 350 5.7 L98
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I agree with hammering the socket on it to remove the locks.I did the same thing to remove my locks just weeks ago to replace my tires.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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My cheap-o Pep Boys "rally" locking lugs stripped out on me when I was in the middle of nowhere with a flat.

I took the lug wrench and CRANKED the other 4 lug nuts on TIGHT. Then I was able to use my pair of pliers to remove the locker nut. By tightening the other 4 down, it took the stress off the one.

Then I threw the stripped out nut very very VERY far into the woods. I had planned on returning it to Pep Boys with a nasty attitude, but throwing the thing felt much more satisfying. Bonus- the guy I was with was shocked as hell when I launched that SOB!

Oh I guess if you have aluminum wheels you might not want to tighten the lugs TOO tight, in case you crack the wheel.

You can also buy the locking lugnut removal tools from "real" parts stores like paradisetools.com or toolwarehouse.com ...
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Car: 89 IROC
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when i got my car it had the locking lug nuts. and no key. but luckily my uncle owns a used car lot and they have a machine that rethreads the locking lug nuts and removes them. i guess alot of people trade in their ****ty cars with no keys to get the lug nuts off!
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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If you are at home and have a welder, you can weld a regular lug nut onto the locking one and then take it off. Just make sure you protect you rim.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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Just pound the socket over top to get it off. It worked for me when I lost my key. I used an impact wrench too though so I dunno how easy it will be with a ratchet.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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Just make sure you don't really hit the axles hard with the hammer. You might bend one.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Autozone can get ahold of a tool kit for rent that takes them off. They take off most locks. And of couse everyone knows autozone's renting program is free cuz you get your money back when you return the tool...even if you destroy it. I work there so Ive borrowed it before and it works well. I dont remember the part number so they may have to look it up.

Justin
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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I am also a fan of welding a lug onto the top of the locking lug. I've done this on mulitple cars.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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you can weld a bolt to the lug nut also. just make sure it's a decent sized one. had to do it for all 4 wheels on my old firebird.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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You may also want to try those craftsman sockets that are used to remove stripped out bolts.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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Maybie somthing like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2453872730
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