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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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I'm gonna do this!........ verticle doors

Alright people there was another forum I was posting in but I brought it from the dead and it pretty much never picked up.

So here’s to a new start.



I'm going to buy a Vertical door kit from Street Dreams,
As shown in the link.
http://www.iserv.net/~strdream/hinges_production.html

Now the kit is only $750 for all you need including struts and hinges. It says you need high skill for this so my buddy who is a certified master mechanic is going to help me with it for free.

Now if you look at that link, you'll see there demo car is a Fiero. My question is; what are the seminaries between that cars door structure and ours? The doors look the same exact size, but I don’t know. Also do they bracket up the same way? If so this would greatly improve install because I’m going to have this down in 2-3 months if Flyinlow (with his show car) and zepher (him being rich and all and does just about everything) don’t beat me to it.

I know I have t-top and the seal above the window will get in the way but I already have a solution. Which is to just cut as much as I possibly car off and leave it like that. Just enough so it lips over but not too much as to it leaks.

Next I have a certified master mechanic helping me for free, and his buddy, he’s an Auto body Specialist, are going to help for free since they've never really done anything like this before and they want to.

I read over the manual and it seems to me that all the experience you need is the ability to weld and a strong knowledge of geometry and angles. I just can’t weld. So it’s going to be pretty easy.


If you want to see the videos and you didn't when you went to the link you can here
Small, 120KB, video shows much more but less quality
http://www.iserv.net/~strdream/gr_hi...or_open_sm.mpg
Large, 420KB, video shows higher quality but doesn't exactly show how they opened it.
http://www.iserv.net/~strdream/gr_hi...or_open_lg.mpg

I like the fact that all the other really expensive kits make you push open the door first, and but I love how this one doesn't. Make it look more like a professional install instead of some cheap body kit.

Also if your thinking these might be cheap quality kits, think again, everyone I’ve emailed highly recommends these over other kits.


Thanks,
Shane
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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alright was doing some searches and stuff, and one company is actually maing a kit for 82-92 firebirds(said nothing of camaro). All it is, is a hinge and a gas shock designed to fit the door specifically. After i saw that it was a bolt on kit, i was like hell nah. So obviously it is very do able.

http://www.carexcess.com/vdc/applications.html

see it there, although it is gonna be released "today" i still would like the other kit instead. I like being able to say yeah, that took me forever but doesn't it look nice.

If your interested in that kit its only $1,895.00

So now i gues there is a demand for the product, just its been too expensive becuase there was never a direct bolt on before.

BUt $750 sounds a lot better and i like how it opens a little beter, beucase it doesn't swing open, then go up. It just comes down then up. Nice like that.



Shane

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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by kidrcth
If your interested in that kit its only $1,895.00
ONLY........

It's a cool mod and something i plan on doing, but just not anytime soon......Just gotta work something out because I can't lift my door with a door handle.........
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Just gotta work something out because I can't lift my door with a door handle.........

haha no way. I completely forgot about that for all you people with shaved handles.

But maybe since it opens the door just enouhg to get in anways, it might open it just enough do that when you want to get in you can pull it up by the side of the door.
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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Well at least they can't tell you to search.

But Really it looks like a good project, and I agree that $1900 is to spendy.
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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well when i said only i meant its only compared to the normal fee if $3000 to 5000... sound like a big difference to me there.
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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I have a great, I mean great visual ability. I took what I could from the kits and turned it into a working model in my head. Then I went outside with a piece of cardboard the size of the hinge to put in the car. Then just looked at how the hinge would work and how the door will go up. I came up with the conclusion that the door will miss the fender by 1 inch. And that the t-top door seals will still work. I analyzed that video of the $750 kit until now I can even see myself clicking on the play button. I have gone through it in slow motion to see everything that was happening to fast so I could see it.

I also came up with the conclusion that the kit I want opens the door 1.5 inches out then up. Also from the way it looks like he was opening the door, it looks like it pushes itself up, you just have to pull it down. I have a great visual ability guys, and I can tell you right now this mod is going to be reasonably easy. Way easier than Targa Top, but will require almost as much work. I’m not the kind of visualizer that can see me adding a hood on my car but I can see things like this in motion and how they work from just seeing them. I am a very special breed, 1 out of 10 people is a visual (kinetic) learner. Well I’m one of them. I can’t read instructions without pictures and put stuff together, because I am a visual learner. It’s a good thing and a bad thing.

That site says they installed the passenger door in one day but, in their instructions they say do one door entirely first so that the second would be an easy on install. Well if I were them I’d start on the driver’s side door first, wouldn't you? SO maybe 2 days for first door then 1 day for second. It'll be cool though.

Thanks,
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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I just have one question, if i do, is anyone else gonna follow, or are they just gonna say good job but i wouldn't do it myself? I mean it seems like something flyinlow would do if he knew that the cheap kit will work. I just think that that is how everyone else is thinking.
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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actually i found a beter place then them. You give them the info on your car and they make it so it fits for you.

They make each kit custom.

http://www.cardoorcustoms.com


they are $400 right now but they will go up to $650.

They make them completely custom to your car. HOwever they are under suck high demands right now there is a back order, so if you pay $400 now, you'll get it in a while. It normally takes 2 weeks to custom fit them then send it but since the back order they might take longer.


FLyinlow please look at this, this is your dream
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
Just gotta work something out because I can't lift my door without a door handle.........
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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thats some bull****

Dude whats up with the wood? look at the pic, it has wood holding the door up
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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yeah well look down at my last post, changed my mind and went to a different, better, cheaper kit. Thats made specifically for 3rd gen f-bodys.


http://cardoorcustoms.com

they make the right kit d00d.
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Post some pics of it finished if you could. I would love to see how it looks.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 02:09 AM
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Thats awesome

Do you know if they have any pics on F Bodys? If you dont mind,I wouldnt mind doing that but Id like to see pics first.Not trying to take your idea or anything,just thought it would be cool to have something diff than everyone else around here.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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That looks Cool and all but personally I think suicide doors would be better. You know shave the handle off, and put automatic door openers on it.
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 01:50 AM
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Some info

Yes our website should be up with our gallery pictures before saturday. And the price will stand at $400.00 until we sell our first 100 sets, we are currently at 65 hinges. as of 3:30 pm pacific time Feb 2nd 2004. Thank You for you interest in CarDoorCutoms.


CarDoorCustoms


I emailed them to see pics but they didnt have any yet. I appreciate you sharing ideas cause it helps me attempt diff things than anybody around where I live.Except for maybe them a$$hole ricers.Anybody around Parma Ohio area?
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 01:56 AM
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Yes our website should be up with our gallery pictures before saturday. And the price will stand at $400.00 until we sell our first 100 sets, we are currently at 65 hinges. as of 3:30 pm pacific time Feb 2nd 2004. Thank You for you interest in CarDoorCutoms.


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I emailed them to see pics but they didnt have any yet. I appreciate you sharing ideas cause it helps me attempt diff things than anybody around where I live.Except for maybe them a$$hole ricers.Anybody around Parma Ohio area?
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 01:59 AM
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My bad wrong button

Sorry
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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thank you dead bird..i was just gonna do that myself



LMAO@ the twonk!!
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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Let this take its course deadbird and chevy boy, what we found out about this d00d everyone else will eventually.
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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email me if your serious about the mod, got some info on it... a do it yourself type..
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by omnipotentgoku
email me if your serious about the mod, got some info on it... a do it yourself type..
I might as well help you out a little....
No one tell no one about this

http://us.share.geocities.com/lmp1054/Scissordoors.pps

P.S. This is what you get for 29.99 ebay informational CD thing. Also you need powerpoint
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Re: thats some bull****

Originally posted by br()bert
Dude whats up with the wood? look at the pic, it has wood holding the door up
Hehehehe... its "special"... remember only $795 with this kit.
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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Re: thats some bull****

Originally posted by br()bert
Dude whats up with the wood? look at the pic, it has wood holding the door up
That would be what's called a mock up... at least, I hope so. :lala:
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You call THAT a website? It's got the technical content of a doorknob.


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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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well i think i've made my point made already on that forum. It cool for you guys to make fun of me where i can read it, but once its done behind my back i get pissed.

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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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Sorry guys...........

This thread is heading south quickly. I am going to close it now, before it get outta' hand.

If somebody does make this mod happen, then you can post about it all you want.

Questions?
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This will be the last post in this thread. Here is some info for you guys (or gals) that may want to do this "mod" to your car.

http://www.cardoorcustoms.com/sponsors.htm
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