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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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Center Caps

I am down to one alloy wheel center cap. The animals here in Brooklyn should be shot.
I have the beautiful Firebird 'turbo rims'. After purchasing four new caps, they will have to be secured better. (either the vandals, or the caps). I have an idea or two on how to keep them fastened, but would also appreciate any input from others.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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epoxy? They wont come off after that!....did that to my rs wheels cuz the metal clips that came with them only pushed my center caps off the wheel
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Not an objectionable idea. The negative aspect would
rear its ugly head during a tire patch or tire change. I never permit plugs.
I was thinking along the lines of glueing bicycle brake cable inside the cap, and permitting the ends of the thin cable to get squeezed between the back of the wheel, and the mating surface of the hub/disc assembly. This would only be good if the cable is very thin and does not make the wheel seat improperly on the hub. Thanks, though.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Make sure you have really nice tires before you try glueing the cap to the wheels..

You can't balance the wheel without having the center cap come off..

Though I haven't done it yet, the best idea would be to take one of the metal brackets that are used on the rear wheel caps, and bore out the center hole to clear the hub on the front wheels.. Then you'll be set. I think you have to increase the diameter by only like 3/16" or so.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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I lost you someplace. These plastic caps have tiny tabs that hook onto the hole. The tabs are plastic, or metal on the newer G.M.-made units.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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Some NOS Gm center caps for our cars come with plastic tabs that will fit perfectly on your stock rims. They should not be able to come off while driving.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by DVL86
Some NOS Gm center caps for our cars come with plastic tabs that will fit perfectly on your stock rims. They should not be able to come off while driving.
he is not talking about driving though, he is talking about his caps being stolen when his car is parked. I have no ideas other than drilling a whole in the cap and securing it to the wheel with a bolt, thats what I did on my c-10, I havn't really thought how that would work on a thirdgen though.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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Park the car in well light spots at night...dont park it in bad neighborhoods or anywhere where there are lots of bored kids..
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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You know what the creedo is here?
What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine too.
I live in a good neighborhood, but sh.t can happen anywhere, I guess. On a different note:
I drove my Triumph up to Vermont every summer.
Never put the top up.
Never emptied the armrest or glove box.
Never removed the radar detector from the windscreen.
Never removed the easily-removable Pioneer radio.
Never set the alarm.
Nothing happened in 20 years of summers in Vermont.
They are a different breed of human up there.
Old Aug 21, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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Maybe the kids in Vermont have things to do on their hands and thus they dont burglarize cars.
Old Aug 21, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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While it's not solid like glue. it does work. I siliconed mine on from behind. Never had a problems since. and if you need to take it off. just clean the silicone off and re do it.
Old Aug 21, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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How do you take them off without scratching the plastic center cap?
Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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I've had mine off once since I put them on.. and not scratched them. you just need to be careful.. Also if yo uare gonna be taking the car to a tire shop.. take them off at home first .. never let the shop do it.. or you'll be buing new ones.
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by DVL86
Maybe the kids in Vermont have things to do on their hands and thus they dont burglarize cars.
Yes, unlike here at the Fort. !@#$-ing kids ganked my radar detector AND 10 bucks from my closed ash tray during broad daylight, on a military base no less. "What's mine is mine and what's YOURS is mine" applies to where I live as well (also applies to the female in a marriage, but that's another matter entirely).

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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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This is one of the reasons why I am still single at 47. Sort of a mistake, though, because I love kids. Then there is the thing about continuing your lineage.
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by NoTransistors
This is one of the reasons why I am still single at 47. Sort of a mistake, though, because I love kids. Then there is the thing about continuing your lineage.
Single at 47...I'll trade you

The continuation of one's lineage could be considered morally and/or ethically questionable in today's world, and I base that on nothing more than foreign and domestic events over the last 10 years at least. Just something to think about.

Now, then...keeping this 3rd gen-related - have you considered IROC-style rims that have the cap mounted in the center of the wheel itself? With the RS-style rims, the center cap is cylindrical (actually, it's a conic for those nitpicky math wizards ). The IROC rims have a flat, round cap that snaps into the center of the rim. I tried removing my Z28 caps (the car isn't a Z28 - it's a 1989 IROC-Z) in favor of 'IROC-Z' caps, but I found that I was risking damage to the caps as well as the rims by using a small flathead screwdriver; it would've been easier to remove the rim and pop the caps out that way. Does that make any sense?

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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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The 'turbo-rims' are way too classy to replace. If the grease caps on the front hubs were flush, as the rear hubs are, there would be the option of using a flat/round cap.
You live too far from Brooklyn to trade spouses/girlfriends.
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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I was thinking more in terms of saving your existing rims for special occasions, but it would be a bit of work to swap rims even on an infrequent basis...point taken

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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Having lived in Staten Island, I know the real deal !
I think the silicone idea is the better one. Unless you could modify the caps with a bracket inside to hold a retaining wire that could be wedged between the wheel and the hub.
R U sure it's the kiddies that are getting them and not the wonderful NYC potholes?
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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I don't like the center caps that 'clip' on...

so I'm designing my own, polished aluminum disk, gonna get stuff engraved on them, fill it in with some paint, they are drilled already, then I'm going to drill and tap my rims with 7/64s or 6/32 screw thread, and use sockethead cap screws with a bit of locktite...
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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Please let me know when the photos are ready.

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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u could alwasy drill a small hole in the cap and tie a wire through that and to the rims. i had 2 center caps stolen off my formula in bklyn recently
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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damn u all u guys make it l0ok like bklyn is full of thieves..... mine are still on and i had my car for a year now and parked it all over bklyn..... i parked my car in bensonhurst, bayridge parkslop, sunset, red hook, etc everywere and they still on.....i think its the pot holes.. cause i have goten out of the car plenty of times to pick them up.......
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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I live one block North of Brooklyn College. You call this a wonderful neighborhood??????????
Brooklyn is full of thieves. It certainly isn't Vermont.
Last week, I discovered that someone had hacksawed his way through the Facia board on my garage, then had swept away the sawdust.
I believe that his aim was to gain access to the bottom door-track wheel, cut its axle, then push in the bottom of the door. No, I am not paranoid.
Sat out there with a loaded rifle for the whole week. Nothing yet.
News at 11.
Old Sep 4, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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u sure itz not one of them mutated rats we got in our subways?!?!
j/k
Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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The subway is on East 16th Street. I'm eight short blocks away.
Can you imagine how f..king close I am to Flatbush Avenue? Or to Foster Avenue?
Time to move.

S.W.
Old Sep 5, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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foster ave aint that bad......
during the day.......
Old Sep 5, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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Very f*cking humorous.
Old Sep 5, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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dude i was joking
i didnt mean to offend u... im sorry if i did
Old Sep 5, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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No offense taken. My choice to live in this sh*thole.
Old Sep 5, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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haha o0o0ok

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I'm closing this thread. The last 8 posts were all junk.
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