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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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JB WELD as body filler?

I have heard storys of people useing JB weld to fix holes in hoods and other areas apperatly it stands up to a beating.Anyone tried it?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:10 AM
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you'll have to "back plate" the hole, then use alot of JB weld to fill in the hole.

JB weld would not be my pick, it's too thin, too soupy.

To fill a hole in w/o a welder, I have always taped a pc. of sheet metal to the back side of the hole, then filled with bondo. Then once done and hard you can remove the tape

Never had one crack or fall out on me yet, and i filled many many holes over the years doing such things as shaving side mirrors off, truck side trim, antt. holes, etc
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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I've used the JB weld to fill holes and "weld" in patch panels now and then. Pretty good stuff for about anything I've tried it on, but it gets pretty expensive to use as filler. Seems to hold paint ok after sanding it. Guess it depends on what you're doing with it but a back up panel is always a good idea even for smaller holes.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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i didnt want to start a new thread, not trying to highjack it. i have a hole about 7inch round in my floor pan and i am on a budget, what can i use to fix it
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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My Auto Body Repair instructor tells me that over half of the fixes he made at his old shop were someone's attempt at doing it themselves. Don't use JB Weld. Just don't. Even if it works... why? Why not just do it the right way the first time?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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i didnt want to start a new thread, not trying to highjack it. i have a hole about 7inch round in my floor pan and i am on a budget, what can i use to fix it
fiberglass cloth a resin work well. for small holes get some fiberglass filler.Then undercoat
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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thanks, i know it sounds ghetto but, would a stop sign work or sheet metal?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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thanks, i know it sounds ghetto but, would a stop sign work or sheet metal?
LMAO.Thats kinda thick. take a drive around big meatl places they usually leave scrap metal laying around the side.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Sounds like someone found a stop sign "just laying around"

On topic: I used JB to eliminate the antenna on the Mustang. I formed a piece of sheetmetal underneath the hole, taped it into place, and JB'ed the repair area (allowing some JB to get under the repair panel of course). It sanded smooth and with few pinholes, which I filled before shooting the car. With paint. heh

Going on two years with no repair visible. It's as if the car never had an antenna. And with the level of suck attained by local radio, I don't miss it...

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Originally posted by iroc87matt
thanks, i know it sounds ghetto but, would a stop sign work or sheet metal?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Fiberglass or body filler is probably better to use than JB Weld for a good fix.

Just curious, but does anyone use lead? Seems that no one does that anymore.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by soulbounder
Fiberglass or body filler is probably better to use than JB Weld for a good fix.

Just curious, but does anyone use lead? Seems that no one does that anymore.
the lost art of lead.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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yeah lead seems to be a good route to go does anyone actually do it hto?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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hey guys- about the lead- my senior year of highschool i had work release with no job so i had nothing else better to do but work on my 70 chevelle wagon. it needed some filler and i had lead sticks laying around and my toarch. it took a couple weeks to get it down to where i could do it and make is astheticaly pleasing- but it worked and thats a year ago and its still there 100% solid. its all about patience. dont rush it and dont heat the metal up too fast and too much. ill try and get some befor after pics if i can find them. after leading- use a flap disk and it makes it look like its not even there.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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I also vote for fiberglass.

If anyone is using lead, just be aware that it is poison and not just in state of california.

matt, if you use up that stop sign, there are 4 or 5 around here that are just pissing me off. I wouldn't mind if someone made real use out of them.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by VILeninDM
matt, if you use up that stop sign, there are 4 or 5 around here that are just pissing me off. I wouldn't mind if someone made real use out of them.

i didnt steal it, my dad used it on his first car
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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matt, if you use up that stop sign, there are 4 or 5 around here that are just pissing me off. I wouldn't mind if someone made real use out of them. [/B]



what do you mean? a real use? you mean sitting at points where your car would really get going isnt a real use??
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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Now if we could find a use for those worthless red lights all over the place. Nothing worse than sitting at a red light at 1 AM with not a car in sight except the cop that's waiting for me to run the light.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Several years ago, I filled a section of floor panel (probably 10 in by 2) with POR-15 filler--which can be molded, sanded, drilled--along with their mesh. Still in place and apparently holding well. Highly recommended. You might consider checking their web site for more info.

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Gnarley_Boarder
yeah lead seems to be a good route to go does anyone actually do it hto?
I used lead in some spots on my old '71 Monte Carlo. Held up and worked GREAT!
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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If you do use JBweld, use the quick 15min one. The regular is to sloppy n drippy. takes forever to set and will run n drip.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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I have heard storys of people useing JB weld to fix holes in hoods and other areas
If you want a metal type filler, use Evercoats Metal to Metal filler.
http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/p...eyword=10021ZP
It's good stuff.


thanks, i know it sounds ghetto but, would a stop sign work or sheet metal?
If you go to a local sheetmetal fab shop, more than likely they will just give you a small piece of offal for free.

I would try to get a piece slightly larger than the hole.
Take some avaition snips and cut off the rusted edges of the hole and cut the patch the same size but, an inch larger all the way around.
You'll need to have/get a good grade silicon (such as GE SCS1000), rivet gun and acording sized drill bit in relation to the rivets used.
Place the patch over the hole (from the topside) and drill the patch/floor around the perimeter of the patch panel (every 2" or so).
Make a mark so you know where to line the patch back up (if your forgetful like I am), take the patch up and lay a 3/8" bead (of silicone) around the hole (going over the rivet holes you drilled).
Place the patch back in place and press untill the silicone squeezes out then rivet away.
Clean up the excess silicone top & bottom side and put a little extra over the rivets to help seal water out.
Paint or undercoat as desired.

Or...

If you have a welder... make patch panel the same size as the hole. Weld patch in place. Clean weld. Paint.

Just my opinion though....
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by deadbird
Just my opinion though....

i walk past a sheet metal place everyday, ill stop in since i like your idea. thanks
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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if your that despret us JB weld if not find someone to help you repair it.

i plan on doin all lead work on my car when i strip it down this spring, im goin to try and only use a thin skim of body piller on the body to just make sure i didnt miss anything.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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Re: JB WELD as body filler?

Originally posted by Gnarley_Boarder
I have heard storys of people useing JB weld to fix holes in hoods and other areas apperatly it stands up to a beating.Anyone tried it?
i hope this is a joke :lala:
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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And with the level of suck attained by local radio, I don't miss it...

I can relate to that!
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