Abaddon_fallen1

Yeah, I know, crappy rendering but this is what I've been talking about for a while.

NoItsNotForSale

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Looks like cutlass headlights. Looks OK I guess.

Z28ricer

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Looks VERY good IMO, nice job

3.1EyeCandy

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I actually like my popup headlights.

1989karr

Grand Prix lights???

stroked1990RS

It looks like it was done on a PC . the hood lines look to be fake...lol

fast83camaro

It was.

stroked1990RS

my bad sorry .

89bluirocz

here one of mine thats not rendered its actually done almost just like RAIFs

89bluirocz

another

StevenK

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I've got those fog lights.....and I can't beleive you are using them as driving lights, they are not bright at all and they are not focused towards the center at all.

89bluirocz

well the thing is the way they sit they dont shine as wide they shine more out and they are bright enough even on dim if i decide there not bright enough they make a 100 watt bulb i can put in there

hmmurdock_00

Dude, you got lights on your antenna.

92RS3.1L

I like em! Definately looks good!

89bluirocz

what car are those lights out of they look like a grand prix's headlights maybe a cutlass

StevenK

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I should get some of those 100 watt bulbs for my fog lights, where did you get em?

KissThis

Why don't you just buy a Camaro and you wouldn't have to worry about mocking up lights?







Though I do kinda like the lights on the red car

Abaddon_fallen1

Yes, those are Grand Prix headlights, and yes, it looks fake because it was made in Paintshop. But that is what I've been striving for, but it was harder to explain than show it.

KiLLJ0Y

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no no no...

budweiserbeauty

I agree with you! I've always had a thing for pop ups since I was a kid. Used to watch Herbie movies and in the Monte Carlo one, he falls in "car love" with the Lancia that had pop-ups, and she winked at him that way.....I know I'm a goof...but they're so 80's they stand out, because not alot of cars on the road today have them. If a person doesn't want pop-ups, then why buy a Firebird when there's a million other cars without them!!??!!

deadbird

That's as stupid as saying buy a new pair of shoes becauase you don't like the shoelaces....

Only the Firebird has the bodylines of a... go figure... Firebird but, the semi-truck headlights that pop-up do look like s--t.

Call it the one design flaw to the package the person asking the question is looking to change to make the car 'perfect' in thier eyes.

Other's call it customizing.

Cars don't adapt and change styles on thier own.

Derek The Great

I like my pop ups too and i disagree your opinion on the "semi-truck" headlights, i think they look great, and i also think thats what sets our cars apart from the common cars at night, because first of all, as budweiserbeauty said not too many other cars have them. Second, today the parking light and headlight assembly are usually combined, where as our cars they clearly arent, so any person passing will know the car they just passed wasnt built within the last 5 years. Lastly, and this is my opinion, third gens are old news, many younger people no longer think that they are cool yada yada yada which is why i think the cars are unique, and to give them mods to try and bring them into the 21st century isnt all that great, its a shame to see 20s and such on older cars as well as body kits and all this other mumbo jumbo im seeing...

Rick King

here is an idea, how about ones that are in the nose, the very frount . ones that rotate in a hafe circle, I know it would be a ton of work

just food for thought

later and

GB

biff85ta

The GP light would be hard to fit into the bumper like the photo. If you look at the lines of the two car you could tell why. It looks much better and easier in that pic than it would be in real life.

deadbird

I personally like the pop up lamps myself... just not the gigantor size of them... that's why I changed mine...

And it's perffectly fine that you do disagree but, that doesn't change the fact the lamps are large enough to be used on a semi...

deadbird

And, as I said in the other post about this in the A&D forum, this is because the grand prix lamp is too big for the opening.

Here's a comparison of the lamp next to the turn signal... notice the height difference...

firebirdjosh

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Few hours of fabwork for a custom look for a car I care about and put alot of effort into making just right VS selling it and getting a camaro which looks different and start all over?


Ugh people are sooo stupid.

83CAMAROMAN

I say go for it....it would def be unusual...and im about fifty fifty on the like dislike scale.....but what do you care what i think...lol...its ur car

Abaddon_fallen1

Of course the nose clip would have to be modified, I'm gonna try to keep the original lines, but the light mod gives it a late 2nd gen (77-78) feel to it. It's just my preference, and I do appreciace the input, but don't tell me to get a Camaro if I don't like pop-ups, cuz I'm not looking for a Camaro, I just want to do my own unique thing. Plus the whole foglights as driving lamps gives me concern about DOT regulations plus the state and local fuzz.

Derek The Great

ok but for the sake of argument, its not like people are going to pass your car at night and say, "ya you kno i think ive seen those an a kenworth before..." a kenworth also happens to be what ya photoshopped the headlights on, it never dawned on me that these lights were big though, and im used to it...

Derek The Great

hudson did that idea back in the 40's or early 50's with the hornet i believe exept that it had 3 head lights, 2 in the normal location and one in the midle that rotated...

1989karr

why not convert to the 91/92 style lights? They are considerably smaller than the 82 - 90 design. You'll have to do some fab on the bezel lip though

iansane

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Bleh. Even those flip up too much. I like deadbirds lights. Next time I mess with mine I'm going to just inset the lights that I have like the new c6 vettes.

deadbird

Don't fool yourself.. those lights on that truck are very much real. I intentionally looked for a Kenworth knowing what I'd find. I'm not bent on being right that I would go out of my way to edit pictures to prove a rather silly point.

Wouldn't that be a Tucker you're thinking of ?

jazzcat2001

what about doing something similiar to the c6 vette lights?

NEEDforSPEED

isnt that a photo shop?

KrisW

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Hey, Abadden_fallen1, I think they look great, and most of all, they look very Pontiac. I say go for it!
And don't be pissed if I steal your idea! I really like it!

sheltonw3

You can always have both options too....if your car is a 91-92?

Abaddon_fallen1

Hey KrisW, Go ahead, the thing that's gonna bother me is I won't be the first with an actual working model, oh well. If you do go through with it, tell me how it went. (I really have to make an insturction manual, maybe then it would clear things up )

KrisW

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I've been thinking alot about it. Its gonna be easier for me, I think. I don't run ground effects, so I could start with the 82-83 fiberglass nose piece. I think if I start with fiberglass, I could just hack the nose down and re-glass it in the way that your picture is. I don't think they make the 85-90 T/A nose in fiberglass yet, do they? If they do, you may beat me to it. I'm overseas right now and won't be home till February to work on my car. I'm probably gonna worry about the engine first (obvious reasons.) I'm saving this thread, though, because its gonna happen at least once to one of my cars.

Derek The Great

hmm now that i take a harder look, the lights do look athentic, but every kenworth ive ever seen has had 4 lights...
ah yeah tucker made that car, i forget what they called it, im not too into 50's cars or 40's but i member readin sumthin about it somewhere....

deadbird

I know this is draggin on but, the lamps in a kenworth depended on the duty model. I'm not a truck guy but, I do know (from friends) that the lamps were used in the lighter model trucks (ie: carhauler, bax van etc). Also on the 'in town' semi's



Also on the 84 gmc trucks



Aerostar...



I'll excluse the K-cars so no one's eyes get set ablaze..

Not trying to be a dick about it but, they are huge lights more common to a truck or van than a car.

The Tucker, had you checked the link provide I gave, is simply, a Tucker. The man, the dream. A guy who treid to start his own car company gainst the big 3 and lost due to being ahead of his time... and crushed for that.

KrisW.. all F-body nose fascias are urethane.. none were fiberglass to my knowledge... exclusding Knight Rider.. which obviously isn't factory.

*please excuse the budweiser typos

KrisW

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I'm sorry. I meant the aftermarket fiberglass racing style replacements. I have seen them for the 82-83 nose, but none others. I probably should have been more clear on that.

Derek The Great

wonder what kind of car the orange one is behind the aerostar... looks like a pentastar...
-delorean also lost his dream "against" the big three...

deadbird

The car in the background.. if I were to guess... looks like the laundau (sp?) to a bud's beater 74 chevelle malibu he had back in the high school day of destruction...



(not his car but, a 74 malibu for comparo). Ultimate demolition derby car too btw

About the "had you checked the link provide I gave" comment I said.. my apologies.. I misread what you said...." ah yeah tucker made that car, i forget what they called it, im not too into 50's cars or 40's but i member readin sumthin about it somewhere...." as being 'oh yea, it's a Tucker... xx model...'. Sorry about that.

JeremyNYR

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very cool topic. I'm surprised i didn't come across it sooner. About 1 1/2 to 2 years ago I did a similar photoshop using Flyinlow89's T/A (well, it was his at the time). Here's what I came up with. I already got a headlight assembly from a Grand Prix and it looks like the headlight pocket will need to be extended down about 1/2" to 3/4" to fit properly. The assembly looks like it'll fit very well width wise.

I've come to the conclusion that the only way to modify the bumber to fit the lights and to be durable is to make a new cover out of fiberglass. From my research, cutting and bonding urethane isn't an option if you want something that will last.If I decide to take this project on, I'm going to modify an extra bumper I bought to look the way i want it and then use it as a plug for a fiberglass mold. After all that, there's still the issue of fabricating mounts for the assemblys and the metal piece that supports the hood latch will also have to be cut for clearance.

Here's the photoshop i did way back when. I was keeping it secret until I actually started working on it, but what the hell... the cat is out of the bag.

KrisW

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Very nice, the more I see it the more I want one!

Ever thought of using the aftermarket 82 nose and glassin' it up a bit to look like the 85? At least it already bolts on. Maybe its easier and maybe not. I wouldn't know, I'm just thinking out loud.

Great pic!!

JeremyNYR

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Can you give me a link or info about this fiberglass nose? My T/A is an 84 and I plan to keep the older style look to the nose. The only fiberglass version i've seen is the one that comes with integrated fenders and is very lightweight for drag strip use only.

Abaddon_fallen1

That's exactly what I'm talking about JeremyNYR! I'm more about aerodynamics than anything, and let me tell you, them pop ups really mess with air flow when you're haulin' 120 mph @ 3 a.m.
More on that, maybe later......

Derek The Great

that car looks pretty sharp, minus the rims...