84 1LE

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Hope this is correct category.Its not complete yet.This is how they are mounted in 4th gens.I had to make indentations on the tank for it to clear the hood latch & cross braces.I still need to drill the holes to secure it.Im drilling a small hole in the bottom so the water will gravity feed into the line(Ive got that way now on the original tank).I also have the radiator overflow tank from a 4th gen,but ive yet to start on that one.It'll be monuted the same way as on 4th gens(under battery).Opinions welcome.

84 1LE

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close up

hmmurdock_00

Looks good, does still allow the radiator to still get a good bit of air flow?

84 1LE

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Yep,heres another pic.it just starts to pertrude in the very top of the grills.90% of the tank is directly behind the bumper bar

JPrevost

I'm doing the same thing! You beat me too it congrats.
BTW, get the cover back on there and it'll look even better.

jimp2001

That is COOL! I'm gonna go pick one up this weekend!

84 1LE

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The cover is going back on.I just had to remove it for the moc-up.Heres where youll have to mod(indentations) the tank for it to clear.IF you dont want to butcher your ride.You cant see the top indents,but theyre there,just smaller.

84 1LE

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close-up of center indentations.

JPrevost

butcher my ride? You're crazy. I don't even have all that hood latch crap. It's been removed leaving a much smoother and cleaner front end. I've got a pin on hood and I like saving weight .
I won't have to modify it to fit but I will need to figure out a good way of mounting it.

84 1LE

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Yeah,I would never cut my car either(well maybe a little ).just to fit a minor mod.Thats why the tank is modified.This way i can return it to stock.As for weight that bumper bar is aluminum,not steel.Hood is fiberglass(factory).

Xophertony

will any year fourth gen bottle work with this? also, my thirdgen bottle (off a 1992, my car is an 86) has an onboard (part of tank) pump. do fourthgen bottles work this way?

84 1LE

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As far as i know they are all monuted this way.Yes this tank had the pump mounted in the front center of the tank.Looked similar if not indentical to later 3rd gens.In the pic above of the close up showing the latch brace & tank.You can see the center(the small bolt is in the way)where the pump mounts.

The Wizard

If anybody wants to do this I have a 4th gen tank w/ pump in excellent shape for sale......

Xophertony

i think i am going to do this. that tank gets in the way of my intake.

wait, the reservoir for the radiator gets in the way of my intake. well.... i can put the washer reservoir in the front, then use an olderstyle no pump washer reservoir for my coolent. problem solved, engine bay further cleaned up. yay. now to actualy find one of these in a junkyard. cause i am not paying for shipping.

firebirdjosh

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I don't get it, now you have a nasty tank in front of the latch rather than in the engine bay. It seems extremely visible in either location. Don't get me wrong, great craftsmanship and concept, but I don't see the advantage.

JPrevost

Here's what he said earlier in the thread;

firebirdjosh

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Ahhhhh, thats awesome then and I'm jealous. If I find something to do with my coolant overflow then I'll definitely be doing this mod too.

84 1LE

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Done.This is a pic of the tank w/the little(center)bracket i made to hold it to the bumper.Directly under that you can see the nipple that the rubber hose will attach to..The plastic piece mounts just to the inside of the headlamp(passenger).Theres also one on the driver side,but that didnt need the hole cut into it like this one.

84 1LE

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Here is the black piece installed.

84 1LE

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With the tank installed.If you dont want to cut yours.You can leave it off.

84 1LE

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Installed.With the cover back on you cant even tell anything was done.Only drawback i can see is refilling.Im undecided if i should cut a hole on the cover!!.Another plus i noticed,this tank will hold about 2/3 more water than the original.

84 1LE

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On to the next project, 4th gen rad overflow.This will go under the battery.

Xophertony

nice job all around. deffinatly going to do this to my ride.

Dale

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how much would this interfer with the lb8/lb9?? dual snorkle intake?

84 1LE

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Its mounted in front & towards the top of the radiator.No where near the dual snorkle intakes.Those intakes are mounted just above the headlamps.Look at the pic in the first posting.You will have to make a support (its on the washer tank)for the plastic snorkle where it connects to the ducting.Thats about it,that i can think of.Unless of course you speaking of the TPI & certain V6s(Lb engs????) that use the intakes mounted in that area.I doubt this will clear those intakes.

Dale

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your thinking of the wrong intake.

I'm talking like this one (hope pic works)

84 1LE

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I was in the middle of editing my posting.Looks like it would be a TIGHT fit(at best) with that set-up.

Dale

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ok. Damn I had a smooth idea for an extra use for that fluid container.

More I look, it appears to be a direct interferance. Fill cap is as high as the mount point, which would be higher then the filter.

The Wizard

What kind of smooth idea?? Clue me in, I've got one layin' around.

iansane

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Are those HID ballasts I see?

That's interesting on the bottles. I'd definately like to try that.

84 1LE

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Yes ,they are for the Xenarcs

NEEDforSPEED

nice!

iansane

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Yikes. You paid for that whole setup? How much did it set you back?

What housings are you using?

84 1LE

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I bought it on ebay.It was used,but on a show car(so really never used,mint shape).It uses the housing that come with the kit(4656 type).With shipping i paid $167.

iansane

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That's actually really good. Every price I've seen for the xenarc kit is outrageous.

What housing come with the kit? Just a regular composite h4-style conversion or is it designed for the HID output? Do you have pictures of the light output at night?

IROC_5796

looks like a really good idea, and a great space saver for under the hood. unfortunently im one of those guys with the tpi and my air filters are right there. if somone could figure out a good idea for a different routing of the washer fill i would do it.


also is the washer pump mounted on the tank?

JPrevost

You can move the stock tank to under the front bumper cover. I test fit it before I got a 4th gen bottle from a friend that was looking to loose weight

84 1LE

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The housings look like 4656/4651 lamps.They use H4 Osram bulbs for the high beams only.The low beams use the HID "bulb"(not really a bulb though).They may be composite(polycarbonate)?.There is a special harness for the HIDs(lows) & one for the 4651s(highs) that intergrates the xenarcs & stock 4656/4651 connections & ballast(which also amplify the output from stock to 95volts.A relay & a bridge(for continuous low beam operation in high beam mode)

84 1LE

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yes

iansane

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So it's kind of a re-based d2s (is that the term? or d2r?) capsule made to fit h4 retrofits?

I'd really like to see pictures of the light output against a building or something at night. I've got h9 style bulbs and been wanting to retrofit an hid system in but I've been leary about the rebased versions. How long have you had it? (how many hours)

hehe, thanks for answering my millions of questions.

84 1LE

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Its not a retrofit(at least i wont call it that) The high beam uses an OSRAM H4 bulb,yes,but the harness is NOT compatible with other H4 kits.The lowbeam is a D1R actually(looks like a D1S also). D2R & D2S,which look the same differ in the housing(round)mine is square.D2R/S HIDs will NOT fit this lowbeam housing.Housing is made to fit the D1R/D1S HIDs square housing.Combine the HID harness that has its own plug/connectors with the ballast(which is also different than other xenrac ballast).You would have a diffcult time getting this to work with other H4 conversion kits.I will try to take some pics for you fri/sat.I bought this kit well over a year ago,maybe a 1.5 years now.No regrets it uses less power than so called HID kits/H4 conversions/xenons or even your standard 4656 bulbs.With the lights & high beams on & my Rr defroster & the engine idling the amp/volt gauge needle doesnt even flicker when i turn on the defroster.My cooling fan draws more power than that.

87CIZ

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Here's a picture of the battery tray/radiator overflow done. A buddy of mine did it in his 92 That he's swapping an LS1 and 4L60E in to.

His screenname on TGO is Fattdaddy if you have questions...

84 1LE

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So he cut a hole for the tray/bottle.I dont know if im willing to go that route with mine.I thought maybe mount it under the stock tray.My only concern is the neck.His seems to clear just right though.What holds it down?

87CIZ

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im not positive as to how it's held down (i never asked) But really there's no other way to mount it in the battery tray without cutting a hole. It does fit really well and inspired me to do the same to my Iroc Project in the near future. By then I'll know how he did everything

84 1LE

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It is a clean fit.I like it.I was hoping this was not the only way.I will find out tomorrow though.As that is when im attacking this dilemma.I will post pics if i accomplish this mod.

84 1LE

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Almost done, still need to extend the rubber line to the rad, reroute some wires, but thats about it.

84 1LE

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Circled is the battery hold down bolt.It will double as a mounting bolt to hold one side of the bottle.You can also see the rubber line.It passes thru an existing hole in the batt tray.You may be able to see where i had to slightly clearence the side of the tray.So the filler neck wouldnt rub against.

84 1LE

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Here's the top of the 4th gen batt tray.The hold down bolt is shown with the little clip(used to hold the Fr.GFX to the bumper) that the bolt will thread onto.Circled are the mounting points(2used,2 not used)I marked them with some primer i used to touch up the 3rd gen batt tray.There are 4 threaded bungs(3 not used)other for the holdown bolt.I sprayed primer thru the bungs onto the 4th gen tray.Drilled 2 holes on the 4th gen tray,left other 2 as is.I trimmed down the side walls(to about 1/4in) of the tray that are used to retain batt.Also cut off the mount on the 4th gen tray for the holdown batt bolt.Center was trim into a concave dome to clear the central bump in the 3rd gen batt tray.Last is the left edge.This is so the rubber line will pass free & clear & thru the existing hole on the 3rd gen tray.The corner of the batt was slightly trimmed(though no needed) to allow the line to pass w/out rubbing.

84 1LE

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Here is the bottle after i bent the neck.I had to moved it back about 3/16.Because the bend was too severe & hit the top edge of the batt when installed.

84 1LE

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Under side.You can also see the other bolt used to hold up the tray.